Inventory 3260
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have frequently and in an amicable manner demanded payment of the said sum from the said Reverend Mr Fabricius and John Calland, Executors of the said Estate. But now so it is, may it please this honourable Court, the said Reverend Mr Fabricius and John Calland absolutely refuse your orators any manner of satisfaction touching the premises; your orators therefore pray a general relief such as to this Honourable Court shall appear agreeable to equity and good conscience. To the end therefore that the said Reverend Mr Fabricius and John Calland may upon their corporal oath make a true and perfect answer to all and singular the matters and things hereinbefore alleged and set forth, as truly, fully, and effectually to all intents and purposes as if the same were here again repeated and interrogated, and be decreed to pay unto your orators the said sum of thirteen thousand two hundred and fifty pagodas, with all such interest as now is or hereafter shall become due thereon, as also all costs of the suit; May it please this Honourable Court to cause the said Reverend Mr Fabricius and John Calland to be summoned and required by the Sheriff of Fort St George, Town of Madraspatnam and districts thereof, personally to be and appear at a certain time and place to be by this Honourable Court prefixed and appointed, then and there to answer this your orators' Bill of Complaint, and further to stand to and abide such order and decree as this Court shall seem meet. Was signed: Archdale Palmer, Attorney for the complainant. Agrees: Haucquet De Jan First Clerk The Estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister Translation Agrees: A: The amount overcharged by the said deceased in his transactions on account of the said Company, which he was ordered to refund by the government of Nagapatnam on 18 January 1761: Guilders ƒ 8732. 8. 8. 7501½ lb of Surat cotton found deficient and discovered upon the delivery of this item—then under his command and belonging to the said Company at Bimilipatnam—to his successor in that post: 2885. 7. 8. Loss arising on the following items then under his charge, which occurred through his neglect at Bimilipatnam: 135430 lb of cotton charged to his account, prime cost being: ƒ 37250. 17. -. 25 percent on the same: 9312. 14. 8. Total: ƒ 46563. 11. 8. Deducting the amount the said cotton was sold for, being damaged: 19479. 12. 8. The difference now charged being: 27083. 19. -. A third portion of outstanding debts owed to the Company upon his departure from Bimilipatnam, which according to an established regulation the said deceased was obliged to take upon his own account: 20231. 5. 8. Total guilders: ƒ 58933. -. 8. Makes Star Pagodas: 13260. Below was written: Fort St George, 27 April 1762. Lower: Errors Excepted, Daniel Bartholomeus Truter. No. 15. Haucquet De Jan First Clerk Dr. The Estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister To an overcharge made by the said deceased in his transactions on account of the said Company, which he was ordered to refund by the government of Negapatnam the 18 January 1761: Florins ƒ 8732. 8. 8. To a deficiency of 7501½ lb of Surat cotton that arose upon delivering that article then under his charge, belonging to the said Company at Bimilipatnam, to his successor in that employ: 2885. 7. 8. To a loss arising on the following article then under his charge and which happened through his neglect at Bimilipatnam aforesaid: 135430 lb of cotton charged to him, the prime cost being: Florins ƒ 37250. 17. -. 25 per cent upon ditto: 9312. 14. 8. Total: ƒ 46563. 11. 8. Deducting for so much the said cotton sold for, being damaged: 19479. 12. 8. The difference being now charged is: ƒ 27083. 19. -. To a third part of the outstanding debts due to the said Company at the time of his leaving Bimilipatnam, which according to a standing rule the said deceased was obliged to take upon his own account: 20231. 5. 8. Makes Star Pagodas: 13260. -. -. Fort St George, 27 April 1762. Errors Excepted, D. B. Truter. Agrees. Haucquet De Jan A copy. First Clerk No. 16. Extract from the Resolution Taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Thursday, 18 November 1762. In the meantime, upon receiving news of the forthcoming departure for Manila of the President of the Court or College of Justice at Madraspatnam, the meeting approved of the clerk Bartholomeus Truter having been sent thither to inquire regarding the claim instituted against the estate of the deceased Junior Merchant and former head at Bimilipatnam, Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, as to what progress had been made therein by the attorney Palmer; although that journey proved of little fruit, and the term to answer the representation made by the executors of the said Hagemeister's estate No. 17. Extract from the Minutes of the Court held in Town Hall on Tuesday, 3 August, Anno Domini 1762. Present: Peter Mariette, Esquire, President John Calland, Thomas Porney, John Whitehill, John Debonnaire, and James Hay, Aldermen. The Dutch East India Company, through its authorized agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, versus John Calland and the Reverend Mr John Philip Fabricius, Executors of the Estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister. Mr Archdale Palmer, attorney for the complainants, requests that judgment be given for the complainants in this case, the defendants having failed to file their answer in the Court.
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have frequently and in an amicable manner demanded paijment off the said sum /rom the said Reverend Mr Fabricius and John calland Efe¬ cuctors to the said Estate fle But now so it is mai it please this honre court, the said Reverend Mr Fadricius and John Calland absalutelij refuse ijour orators anij manner off satiffaction touching the pre„ mises, ijour orators therefore praija general Relief such as to this Aon:rs Cout shall appear agreable to Equitij and good conscience To the End therefore the said Reverend Mr. Fabricius and John Calland maij upon their corporal oath a True and Perfect answer make to alland singular the matters and things herein before alledged and tet forth as Truelij fullij and Effectuallij to all In¬ tents and purposes as if the same were here again repeated and Jnterrogates, and be decreed to paij unto ijour orators the said sum of Thirteent housand Two hundred and fiftij bagodas with all such Interest as now id or here after shall become due thereon also all costs of the suit Maij it pliase this hon:le. Court to cause the 516 the said Reverend Mr Fabricius and John Calland to be summond and Required bij the sheriff off Fort St George Town off madrappat„ nam and districto there of personallij to be and appear at a certain time and place to be bij this Honre. court prefifed and appoin¬ ted then and there to ans wer this ijour orators Bill of Complaint and further to stand to, and abive such order and de¬ cree as this court shall seen meet /:was„ geteekend:/ Archaale Calmer Att: for the complainant Accordeerd Haucquet De Jan EG Clercq Den Boedel van Charles Louis Hagemeister Translaat Accordeerd A: Het te veel, bereekende door ged: overleedene, in zijne verhandelinge voor reecquening van gem: Comp: welke hem belast was, door het gouvernement van nagapatnam den 18.:' Janu: 1761, om weder te vergoeden - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Guldens. ƒ 8732. 8. 8. „ 7501½: lb: surats Cattoen te kort bevonden, en ontwaart bij de leverancie van dit artikel, /:als doen onder zijn bevel belangende aan gemelde Comp: te bimilipatnam :/ aan zijn navolger in dat Emploij - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - „ 2885. 7. 8. verlies, ontstaan op de volgende artikelen als doen onder zijn bevel, welk door zijn versuijm, te bimilipatnam Koorm:, is geschied-. 135430. lb: Kattoen, het kostende op zijn Reekening belast zijnde - - - - - - - - - _ _ ƒ 37250. 17. -. 25. pCento op dito - - - - - - - - - „ 9312. 14. 8. af voor zoo veel gemelde Cattoen verkogt ƒ46563. 11. 8. is, beschadigd zijnde - - - - - - - - - - „ 19479. 12. 8. Het verschil na belast, zijnde _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ „ 27083. 19. —. C9 Een derde portie over uijtstaande schulden aan den Comp:, bij zijne verlaating van Cimilipatnam welk volgens eene bestenbaare reeden, gem=e overleedene genootzaakt was op zijn Reekening Te zaamen guldens - - - ƒ 58933. —. 8. Maak sterre pagooten - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 13260. /:onderstond:/ Fort C=t George 27. April 1762. /:Lager:/ Fraute uijtgezondert D=l B: Trieter - te neemen - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - „20231. 5. 8. N:o: 15. Namcquet De Jan EGClercq „ 518 r Dr The Estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister To an overcharge made bij the said deceased in his Tran„ sactions on account of the said Companij, which he was ordered to refund bij the gouvernment of Negapatnam the 18. Januarij 1761. . - Florins ƒ 8732. 8. 8 To a difficiency of 7501½. lb: surat Cotton that arose upon delivering that article then under his charge, belonging to the said Companij at Bimilipm to his successor in that Emploij - - - - - - „ 2885. 7. 8 30. a loss arising on the following article then under his Charge and which happened thro' his ne„ glect at bimilipm aforesaid 135430. lb: Cotton Charged to Hun the prime cost being. . . . -. flo: ƒ37250. 17. -. 25 pr Cent - - - - - upon d. o „ 9312. 14. 8. ƒ 46563. 11. 8. De ducting for so much the said Cotton sold for being damaged The Difference being now Charged is - - - - - ƒ27083. 19. –. To a third part of the outstandings debts due to the said Companij at the time ol his leaving Bimi„ lipanam which according to a standing rule the said deceased was obliged to take upon his - - - - - - „ 19479. 12. 8. Makens star pagodes. . . 13260. –. –. Fort St george 27:' april 1762. Ewors Excepted D: B: Friter. oun account - - - - - - - - - - „ 20231. 5. 8 Accordeerd Aauquet De Tan a Copij Ey Clercq No 16. 519 Extract uijt de Resolutie Genoomen in Raade van Cormandel tot Nagapatnam op Donderdag Den 18.' Novemb: 1762. Middelewijlen liet de vergadering zig wel gevallen dat op de bekoomene tijdinge van 't aanstaande vertrek nade Manilha vanden president van 't Court of Collegie der justitie tot Madraspatnam, den schriba Bartho„ lomeus Truter derwaarts was gesonden, om wee„ gens de g'institueerde pretentie op den boedel van den aflijvigen ondercoopman en geweesen Rimi„ lipatnamsen Cacunde Carel Lodewijk Hage„ meister te verneemen, hoe verre daar mede door den advocaat Palmer gevord=t was, schoon die voijagie van weijnig vrugt geweest, en het termijn om te antwoorden, op de gedaane verthoo„ ning der Executeurs van Gem: Hagemeisters boedel No. 17 520 Extract uijt de Miruten van t Hoff gehouden in Towonhall op Dingsdag den 3 Augustus Anno Lomini 1762 Present Peter Mariette Schildknaap President John Calland, Thoma Porneij, John Whitehill, John Debonnare en James Haij, scheepenen, DOost Jndische Compag: van Holland, per „haven gemagtigden Daniel Bartholmeus Truter Contra John Calland, em aen Eerwaarden hier John Phillip Fabritius, Executeuren van de Nalaten „schap van den overleeden C=ts L=r Magemerster, M=r Archdale Palmer, gemagtigdens van de kla- gers, versoekt dat vonnis, voordde klaagers in deese zaak gegeeven mag werden, De verweer„ =ders hebbende in't hoff niet ingediend haar anter, 7
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answer to the bill of complaint of the complainants pursuant to the order of this court dated the 1st of June last. Mr. William Cranwell, attorney for the defendants, requests that he may be granted a further extension of six weeks to submit the aforesaid answer, as his clients' former attorney was very sick during my presence here and was now on the point of departing for Manila, and that his clients have not yet been able to procure the necessary information for the matter of his answer. Mr. Archdale Palmer submits to the consideration of the Court that a long time had already elapsed since the bill of complaint was filed. The Court, having considered the defendants' request, grants them an extension of six weeks to submit their answer to the court. Subscribed: A true extract. Was signed: J. M. Stone, Registrar. Agrees, J. Nanquet de Tan, First Clerk. 521 Extract from the minutes of court held at the town hall on Tuesday the 3rd day of August Anno Domini 1762. Present: Peter Mariette, Esquire, Mayor; John Calland, Thomas Powney, John Whitehill, John Debonnaire, and James Hay, Aldermen. East India Company of Holland by their attorney Daniel Bartholomeus Truter versus John Calland and the Reverend John Philip Fabricius, executors to the estate of Charles Louis Hagemeester, deceased. Mr. Archdale Palmer, attorney for the complainants, prays that judgment may be given for the complainants in this cause, the defendants having not delivered into court their answer to the complainants' bill according to the order of this court passed the 1st day of June last. Mr. William Cranwell, attorney for the defendants, prays that a further time of six weeks may be granted to deliver in the said answer, as his clients' late attorney was during his stay here much indisposed and is now going to Manila, and that his clients have not yet been able to procure the necessary intelligence for the matter of their answer. Mr. Archdale Palmer represents to the court that a long time has elapsed since this bill of complaint was filed in this court. The Court, taking the defendants' prayers into consideration, do grant them a further time of six weeks for delivering their said answer in court. Subscribed: A true extract. Was signed: J. M. Stone, Registrar. Agrees, J. Nanquet de Tan, First Clerk. No. 8 522 Translation. The answer of the Reverend Mr. John Philip Fabricius, Danish missionary of Vepery, and John Calland, merchant of Madraspatnam, executors of the estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, junior merchant in the service of the United Dutch East India Company, defendants, against the bill of complaint of the United Dutch East India Company by their agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, complainants. These defendants now and at all times hereafter saving and reserving to themselves all manner of benefit and advantage of exceptions to the many errors, uncertainties, and untruths contained in the aforesaid bill, for answer thereto, or to so much thereof as these defendants are advised is material for them to make answer unto, these defendants answer and say that, concerning the estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister being indebted to the complainants as set forth in their bill of complaint, it is a claim which these defendants cannot see upon what right it is grounded, having examined the books of the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister and finding that they cannot see that the complainants have the least reason to demand any such claims from the estate of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, as there is not the slightest appearance of such a sum. Wherefore these defendants most humbly request permission from this honorable Court that the said Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, agent of the United East India Company of Holland, may produce proofs before this honorable Court of the fairness of the complainants' claim, as these defendants have great reason to believe that the complainants have no equitable claims upon the estate of the aforesaid Charles Louis Hagemeister. 523 And these defendants further say that the said Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, the complainants' agent, has never demanded payment of the sum of thirteen thousand two hundred and sixty pagodas in an amicable manner; for if the complainants had demanded payment from these defendants, these defendants would certainly have convinced them that the estate of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister was in no way indebted to the complainants. And these defendants further say that what the complainants demanded of these defendants was the surrender of the entire estate of the aforesaid Charles Louis Hagemeister, which these defendants could by no means do. These defendants, seeing occasion to object to all the claims maintained by the complainants' agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, request permission to submit to this Court the reasons upon which these objections are grounded. The first, excessively pretended charge which the complainants' agent [claims] against the estate of the
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e antwoord op het schriftuur van de klagers inge„ volge bevel van dit hoff de dato 1 Junij laastleden, Mr. Willem Cramwell gemagtigdens van de Verweerders versoekt dat hem een langer uijt stel van ses weeken g'accordeerd mag werden om voorm: andwoord in te dienen, alzoo zyn meesters geweesen gemagtigden geduu= „rende mijn aan wesen alhier zeer ziek geweest is, en nu op zijn vertrek stond, naar de manilhas, en dat zijn meesters nog niet instaat geweest zijn de noodige verlichtingen procureeren voor de stoffen van zijn andw: M=r Archadale Palmer; geeft den Raad in Consideratie, dat er al een langer tijd verloopen was, t zedert dat het klagt schrift ingediend is Den Raad het versoek van de verweerders geconsidereerd hebbende, verleenen haar een uijtstel van ses weeken, om haar andwoord vant hof in te dienen /onderstond:/ Een trour Extract /was getesekend:/ Iin M: Stone Regt. Accordeert Vamquet De Tan EG Clercq 521 Extract from the Minutes of Court held at the Townhall on Tresday the 3d: day of august Anno Domini 1762. Present Peter Mariette Esquire Mayor John Calland, Thomas Powney John Whitehill, John Debonnaire & James Hay, Alderman East India Company of Holland by their Attorney Daniel Bartolomeus Truter Vers: John Calland and the Revd: John Philip Fabricius Executors to the Estate of Charles Louis Hage„ meester Deceased. Mr. Archdale Palmer Attorney for the Com. plainants prays that Judgment may be given for the Complainants in this cause; The Defandants having not Delivered into Court their answer to the Complainants Bill according to en the order of this court passed the 1th day of June Last. Mr. William Cranwell attorney for the Defendants prays prays that a further time of six weeks may be granted to deliver in the said answer as his clients late attorney was during his stay here much Indis¬ posed, and is now going to Manilha and that his clients have not yet been able to procure the necessary In„ telligence for the Matter of their answer Mr. Archdale Palmer Represents to the ^kas Court that a long time clapsed since this Bill of Complaint was filed in this court She Court taking the Defendants Prayers into Consideration do Grant them a further time of Six weeks for delive¬ ring their said answer in court, /. onder stond:/ A true Extract /:was getee„ kend:/ I: M: Stone, Reg:r Accordeerd JNanquet de Tan EGClercq No. 8 „ 522 Translaat Het antwoord van den Eerwaarden heer John Philip fabricius, van Weperij deensch Missionaris, en John Calland, van Madrasp=m, koopman, Executeurs der nalaten„ schap van den overleedenen Char„ les Louis Hagemeester onder Coop„ man in dienst vande g'unieerde hollandsche oostindische Compe. , verdeedigert, teegens het klagt schrift van de gunieerde holland„ sche oostindische Comp: door haar Agent Daniel Bartholo„ meus trutar, Klagers — Deese verdediger mni, en inalle na komende tijden behouden en reserveeren alles aan haar zelven, en alle zoorten van Voorregten en voordeelen van uijtsonderingen aan de menige Erreuren, onsekerheedens en onwaarheedens in voorm: schrift bevat, het antwoord daar toe of aande zodanige daar van als deese verdeedigens beraden zijn het aangaan zal, Eent Antwoord te doen, op deze verdeedigers antwoord, en zeggen dat, aangaande de nabaatenschap van den overleedenen Charles Louis hagemeister, schuldig staande bij de klagers, gelijk het in haar klagtschrift neder ge„ zet is, zijnde eenen eijsch welke deese verdeedigens niet zien kunnen waarop die regt gegront zijn, hebbende de boeken van den gem: overleedenen Charle. Louis Hagemeister g'examineerdt, en dat zij niet kunnen vinden dat de klagers eenige de minste ree„ den zoude hebben, om eenige zulke Eijsschen van gem Charles Louis Hagemeister nalatenschap te vor„ deren, alzo 'er geene de minste schijn van zoda¬ nige somma is; Waaromme deeze verdeedigers op het nedrigste aan deeze wel Edelen Raad per„ missie verzoeken, dat ged=te Daniel Bartholo„ meus Truter, Egent van de g'unieerde oostindische Comp: van holland, bewijsen mag bij brengen van de billijkheijd der klagers eijsch, voor deesen wel Edelen raad; alzoo deese verdedigers groote reeden te gelooven hebben, dat de klagers geene billijke Eijsschen op de Nalatenschap van voorn: Chales Louis hagemeister; hebben. 523 hebben; en deese verdeedigers zeggen verders dat de gem: Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, de klagerl agent„ nooijt op eene vriendelijke wijze betaling van de somma van dertien duijzend twee hondert en zestig pag: gevraagt heeft, want soo de klagers van deese verdeedigers de betalinge hadden gereijscht, zo zoude deese verdeedigers zaeren, haar overtuijgd heb„ ben, dat de nalatenschap van gem: Charles Luuis hagemeister ingenerleij wijse aan de klagersiets schuldig was, en deese verdeedigers zeggen verders dat het geene de klagers van deese verdoedigers Eijs„ schen was de overleevering van de geheele nalaten„ schap van voorn: Charles Louis hagemeister, welke deese verdeedigers geenzints doen konde Deeze verdeedigers, geleegenheijd ziende alle de eijsschen welke bij de klagers Agjent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter sijn staande gehouden, tegen te werpen, zoo versoeken zij permissie om hunne Reedens voor deesen Raade voor te leggen, waar op deese tegen werpinge gegrond zijn De Eerste, te veel gepretendeerde belasting welk de klagers Agent, tegens de nalatenschap van den.
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charges against the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, is for an amount of Eight thousand seven hundred and thirty-two guilders, eight stivers, and eight pennies, stating that it is an overcharge in his transactions on account of the said Company, and this being a considerable sum, these defendants are greatly astonished why this matter was not settled before the aforementioned Charles Louis Hagemeister received permission to leave Bimilipatnam, while the plaintiffs say that the said Charles Louis Hagemeister was ordered by the government of Nagapatnam on 18 January in the year seventeen hundred sixty-one to refund the same, and the chief of that place was to let him depart in June, which was about 4 months thereafter, without ever refunding the said sum of eight thousand seven hundred thirty guilders, eight stivers, and eight pennies, though we are assured by sufficient proofs before this Honorable Council, that there was no such debt, which the chief knowing, did not wish to take it upon himself to demand; we defendants are of the opinion that it would not be demanded now either, if the said Charles Louis Hagemeister were alive to be able to answer for himself. The plaintiffs state openly that it is an overcharge which was ordered by the Nagapatnam government, which the aforementioned Charles Louis Hagemeister had to refund, but this provides no proof that these defendants should pay it, without the plaintiffs giving sufficient proofs as to why it was an overcharge or overbilling, since the chief of Bimilipatnam had settled everything in order with the deceased eight days before the departure from there of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, upon a balance of an account with the aforementioned Company, of a smaller sum brought into their account by a memorandum from Nagapatnam, which account these defendants are ready to show to this Honorable Council, if desired. These defendants cannot comprehend how the Bimilipatnam chief could let the aforementioned Charles Louis Hagemeister depart from there without obeying his Nagapatnam superiors with regard to such a demand, since that demand was made as if he actually owed it. These defendants further request permission to be allowed to observe that, since no such debt is recorded in the books of the deceased, they find no reason that obliges the estate of the aforementioned Charles Louis Hagemeister to discharge this alleged debt, which the plaintiffs attempt to make these defendants believe is a fair demand, without ever proving the cause thereof. Now these defendants come to speak of the second article, in which the plaintiffs charge the estate of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister for a deficiency found of seven thousand two hundred one and a half pounds of Surat cotton discovered upon the delivery of that article to his successor at Bimilipatnam. These defendants cannot admit this charge, because the account of his transferred inventory of the said Company to his successor, signed by his successor and by two other gentlemen who were appointed there on behalf of the Company, proves that the said deficiency was lost during the blockade of that residency on the ramparts and batteries of the fort, of which these defendants are ready, if desired, to give an account to this Honorable Council, that the placement of the bales of cotton did not happen on his own initiative, but by order of his chief, as a necessary measure to protect the Company from greater damage. These defendants hope that this Honorable Council will take it into consideration, and that the aforementioned charge is both unjust and unreasonable. Regarding the third article with which the plaintiffs have charged the estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister, being for a loss on cotton which, as they allege, was through his negligence partly damaged upon the delivery to his successor, these defendants most humbly request to be permitted to make known to this Honorable Council, firstly, that a great error was made by the plaintiffs, whereby they set down the amount of the said cotton to a number of one hundred twenty-five thousand four hundred thirty pounds, it being only one hundred eleven thousand three hundred and nineteen pounds and fifteen-sixteenths of a pound, as they can show by the aforementioned account which was signed upon the delivery of the cotton; so that the plaintiffs have charged the said Charles Louis Hagemeister with twenty-four thousand one hundred ten pounds and one-sixteenth of a pound more than is stated on the account. Secondly, these defendants cannot concede to the plaintiffs that the damage to a part of that cotton occurred, as the plaintiffs say, through the negligence of the aforementioned Charles Louis Hagemeister, because in the said account of the delivery of the inventory signed by the successor of the deceased and by the two other gentlemen who were called to the delivery of the inventory, these defendants find that these gentlemen have given a declaration regarding the cause of the aforementioned damage, without making any mention of a negligence of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister; they declare that out of the one hundred eleven thousand three hundred nineteen pounds and fifteen-sixteenths of a pound of the aforementioned cotton, a large part was spoiled and dirty, there being several bales with
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den overledenen Charles Louis hagemeister legt, is voor eene somma van Agtduijzend zeven hond=t en twee-en dertig gúldens, agt stuijvers, en agt „penningen, zeggende het eene te veele belasting in zijne verrigtingen voor reecq: van gem: Comp: is, en dit eene aanmerkelijke somma sijnde, zoo sijn deese verdeedigers grotelijx verwondert waarom deese zaak niet vereffent was, voor den voorn: Charles Louis hagemeister permissie kreeg Bimilipatnam te verlaaten, ter„ wijl de klagers seggen, dat gem: Charles Louis hagemeisten, door het gouvernement van nagap=n den 18: Januarij in den jaare zeventien hondert een en sestig, belaft wierd. deselve weeder te ver„ goeden, en het opperhoofd dier plaats zoude hem in Junij laten vertrekken, welk omtrent 4:' maanden daar na was, zonder ooijt de gem: somma van agtduijzend zeven hondert dertio„ guldens, agt stuijvers, en agt penningen te vergoeden, wel zijn wij verseekerd bij ge„ noegzaame bewijsen bij deesen wel Edelen Raad 524 Raad, dat 'er een sodanige schuld niet en was 't welk den opperhoofd weetende, het op hem niet wilde neemen te eijsschen; wij verdeedi„ gers sijn van gevoelens dat het nu meede niet zouden g'eijscht worden, indien gem: Charles Louis hagemeister in 't leeven waare, om voor hem zelven te kunnen verantwoorden De klagers zeggen openlijk, dat het eene te veele belasting is, welke door het Nagapat„ nams gouvernement g'ordonneerd was, dat den voorn: Charles Louis hagemeister moest vergoeden geeft geen bewijs dat deese ver„ deedigers het soude betaalen, zonder dat de klagers genoegsame bewijsen geeven, waar„ be om het eene te veele belasting /:of „ reekening: was, dewijl het opperhoofd van bimitip=n met den overledene alles in ordre had, gesteld, agt dagen voor het vertrek, vandaar, van gem: Charles Louis hagemeister, bij eene balan„ ce van eene reekening met de voorn: Comp:, van een kleijnder somma in haare Reeke„ ning ning bij een Memorendum van nagapatnam ge„ bragt, welke Reekening deese verdedigers gereed zijn aan deesen welEd: Raad, des begeerende, te vertoonen. Deese verdeesigers kunnen niet begrijpen, hoedat het bimilipatnams opper„ hoofd, den voorn: Charles Louis hagemeister van daar konde laten vertrekken, zonder aan sijne Nagap=le oppergebieders te gehoorzamen ten Reguarde van eenen zodanigen eijsch, dewijl dien Eijsch geschiede als of hij 't wesentlijk schuldig was Deese verdeedigers versoeken verder permisser om te mogen obsesiveeren, dat, dewijl er geene zodaanige schuld bij de boeken van den overl: bekent staat, zoo vinden zij geen reeden welke de nalatenschap van den voorn: Charles Louis Hagemeester noodzaakt, deese /:voorgegee„ vene schuld af te doen, welke de klagers dee„ ze verdeedigers tragten te doen gelooven dat het eenen billijken Eijsch is, zonder daar ooijt den oorsaak van te bewijsen Nii. 525 Nie komen deese verdeedigers van het tweede ar„ ticul te sproeken, waarinne de klagers de Nala„ tenschap van den gem: Charles Louis ha„ gemeester belaften, voor eene te kort be„ vinding van seven Duijzend twee hondert een, en een halve ponden surats Cattoen ontwaard bij de Leverantie van dat articul aan sijn vervanger te Bimilip=m, Deese verdeedigers kunnen deese belasting niet toestaan, omdat de rer„ kening van sijnen overgeleeverden voorraad van gem: Comp: aan zijner vervangers, door sijne vervanger, en door twee andere hee„ ren, die daar voor Comp: wegen aangesteld waare, geteekend sijn, bewijst dat gem: kort- be„ vinding verhooren is, bij de blockeering dier residen„ tie op de wallen en batterijen van 't fort, van 't Welke, deese verdeedigers gereed sijn, aan deesen wel Edelen Raad des begeerende verhaal te geeven, dat de plaatzing der balen Cattoen, niet uijt sijne eijgen beweeging geschied is, maar bij ordre van zijnen opperhoofd, als een nodige zaak om de Comp. Compt van grootere schade te bevrijden, Deese verdee¬ digers hoopen dat deesen Edelen raad Ut inaan„ merkingen zullen neemen, en dat de voorn: be„ „ onreedelijk lasting beijde onregtvaardeglijk en vrogr verg„ byk is, Aangaande het derde articul dat de klagers de nalatenschap van Charles Louis hagemeiter belast hebben, zijnde voor een verlies op Cattoen„ welke door zijn versuijm zoo als zij voorgeven, gedeeltelijk bij de Leverantie van sijn vervanger beschadigd was, deese verdeedigers versoeken op het nedrigtste deesen wel Edelen raad bekent te mogen maken, ten eersten dat 'er een grote messlag door de klagers gedaan is, waar bij zij de somma van gem: Cattoen tot een getal van een hondert vijfentwintig duijzend vier honderd Dertig ponden neder setten zijnde alEenig Een hondert Elf duijzend driehondert en negentien ponden, en vijftiende sestienden van een pond, zoo als zij't bij de voorsz reekening kunnen toonen, welke bij de Leverantie van het Cattoen geteekend is; zoo dat de klagers gem: Char„ les. 526 les Louis Hagemeister met vier en twintig Duijzend een hondert thien ponden, en een sestiende van een pond meerder belast is, alser op de reekening staan: Ten tweeden kun„ deezer nen overdeedigers de klagers niet toestaan dat de schadens aan eener gedeelte van dat Cattoen zou„ den Geschied sijn, zoo als de klagers seggen Charles Louis door het versuijm van voorn: Hagemeister, om dat in de gem: reekening van de Leverancie van den voorraad geteekend door den vervanger van den overl: en door de twee andre heeren die bij de Leverantie der voorraad geroepen waaren, deeze ver„ deedigers vinden dat deese heeren, eene verklaaring aangaande ten oorzaak van voorm: schade gegeeven hebben, zonder uijt eenige men„ tie te maaken van een versuijm van gem: Charles Louis Hagemeister, zij verklare haalen dat de Een honderd elf duijsend drie hondert negentien ponden en vijftien zestienden van een pond van voorm: Cattoen, een grode gedeelte bedurven en vuijl was, /:zijnde verscheijde balen:/ met Er
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with its use on the batteries and ramparts of the fort, and likewise the bales of cloth and ropes in the straw sheds rotted from the outside, and the cotton on one side was damaged two to three inches deep and was unfit to be spun, so it is evident from this declaration that at least that damage to the cotton arose from standing on the ramparts and batteries of the fort during the time of the blockade; consequently, it is not to be attributed to the neglect of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, but rather to the general distress of that time. Concerning that parcel of cotton which was placed in straw sheds, the damage thereof can in no way be attributed to the neglect of the said C: L: Hagemeister, but to the lack of more suitable places than straw sheds to store such an article, which is well known to be damaged by the slightest moisture that reaches it; if the Company did not wish to provide a suitable place for the receipt of such an article, they cannot hold the deceased's estate responsible for such a neglect. Another circumstance we must request this Honorable Council to observe is that this cotton may have lain in the straw sheds for many years, and this being so, it must undoubtedly have contributed greatly to the rotting, rendering it unfit for spinning. These defendants now come to speak of the last or fourth article, that the complainants through their agent have charged the said C: L: Hagemeister's estate, demanding from the same a third portion of the outstanding debts owed to the Dutch East India Company upon his departure from Bimilipatnam. How unreasonable this demand is, we humbly submit to the judgment of this Honorable Council, none of which, to our knowledge, was contracted by the said deceased, and if it were true, it must certainly have been advanced for the benefit of the said Company, and from which he could derive no advantages, but rather to promote their advantages, and done under the direction and approval of the head of that residency; this, in case any debts were made on behalf of the deceased, for if there were none, he could certainly not be held responsible for what he did not do, which does not appear, and from the information the bill of complaint provides, may have already been concluded more than twenty years ago. That we, the defendants, are very ready to pay the just and legal debts of the deceased's estate, but we must request permission from this Honorable Council to be allowed to observe that none of these appears as such, but rather as an account drawn up since the deceased's death. All of which matters and things these defendants are ready to maintain and prove as this Honorable Council shall deem fit, and request to be dismissed henceforward, with their reasonable expenses and costs in this matter, as having been detained in an unjust manner. Signed: John Philip Fabricius, John Calland, Will.m Cranwell, advocate for the defendants. In the margin: Sworn before me the fourteenth of September Anno 1762. Signed: J.o Hay, Councilor. Agreed: Pacuquet de Jan, First Clerk. Copy Read and filed 14 September 1762. The answer of the Reverend Mr. John Philip Fabricius, Danish Missionary of Wepery, and John Calland of Madras, Merchant, Executors to the Estate of Charles Lewis Hagemeister Deceased, late Junior Merchant in the service of the United East India Company of Holland, Defendants to the Bill of Complaint of the United East India Company of Holland, by their agent Daniel Bartholomeu Truter, Complainants. These Defendants now and at all times hereafter saving and reserving to themselves all and all manner of benefit and advantage of exception to the many errors, uncertainties, and untruths in the said Bill contained, for answer thereunto, or unto so much thereof as these defendants are advised doth materially concern them to make answer unto, these defendants answer and say that as to the Estate of the deceased Charles Lewis Hagemeister being indebted to the Complainants as set forth in their Bill of Complaint, the same is a demand for which these defendants cannot see any just grounds, having examined the books of the said deceased Charles Lewis Hagemeister, and that they cannot find any reasons that the Complainants have for any such demands on the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister's Estate, as there is not the least appearance of any such sums. Therefore these defendants most humbly beg leave of this Honorable Court that the said Daniel Bartholomeu Truter, agent for the United East India Company of Holland, may produce proofs for the justness of the Complainants' demands before this Honorable Court, as these defendants have great reason to believe that the Complainants have no just demands upon the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister's Estate; and these defendants further
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met dies gebruijken op de batterijen en de wallen van het fort, en lijkerwijs de packen laken en touwen in de stroo huijsen van buijten verrot, en het Cattoen aan een zijde twee à drie duijmen diep be„ schadigd, en onbequaam was om gesponnen te worden, dus is het blijkbaar bij 'te deese verklaa„ ring dat ten minste die schade op det Cattoen door 't staan op de walle en batterijen van 't fort in de tijd van de blockeering, ontstaan is, ge„ volglijk is het niet aan het versuijm van gem: Char„ les Louis hagemeister toe te schrijven, maar wel aan de algemeene verlegentheijd dier tijd, aan„ gaande die parthij Cattoen, welke in stroohuijsen geplaast wierden, de schade daar van kan op gee„ ne wijze aan het versuijm van gem: C:L: Hage„ meister toegeschreeven worden, maar aan het ont„ breeken van gevoeglijker plaatsen dan stroohuij„ zen, om soo een artikel in te bergen, 't geene wel bekend is, dat het minste nat dat er bij komt daar door beschadigt word; zoo d: Comp: geen gevoeglij„ ke plaats voor den ontfangst van zulke artikel Wilde 527 wilde maken, of den overleedenens nalatenschap voor soo een versuijm aanspreekelijk; eene andere om„ standigheijd moeten wij versoeken dat deesen Edelen raad gelieven te observeeren, is, dat dit Cattoen al menigte jaaren in de strooij huijsen kunnen ge„ leegen hebben, en sulks zijnde, zoo moet het onge„ twijffeld grootelijx tot het notten toegebragt heb„ ben, en onbequaam geraakt tot het spinnen Deeze verdeedigers koomen nu van het Laaste of vierde articel te spreeken, dat de klaa„ gers door haar agent den voorn: C: L: Hage„ meister nalaatenschap, hebben belast, als Eijsschende van deselve, een derde portie der uijtstaande schulden aan de hollandsche oost„ indische Comp: bij zijne verlaating van bimi„ lipatnam, hoe onreedelijk deesen Eijsch is laaten wij het nedrig, aande gevoelens van dee„ zen wel Edelen raad over, geene van dewelke bij onse weeten, door gem: overl: wat gesloten en indien het Waare, moet het seekerlijk geschooten sijn ten profijte van voorn: Comp:, en waar hij geen voordeelen van konde haalen, maar ter be vordering Vordering haare voordeelen, en geschiedende bij de direc„ tie en approbatie van het offerh: dier residentie /: deese ingeval:/ eenige schulden voor den overl: was gemaakt, want so'er geene waren, so konde hij sekerlijk niet aanspreekelijk zijn voor het geene hij niet deede welk niet te voorscheijn komt, en vande onderrigting het klagtschrift geeft, kan reeds over twintig Jaaren geslooten zijn Dat wij de verdeedigers seer gereed sijn, de billijke en wetelijke schulden der overleedenens nalatenschap afte doen, maar wij moeten permissie aan desen wel Ed: Raad versoeken, Jan te mogen aanmerken, dat geener deese, zoo te voorschijn komt, maar wel als een op gemaakte reekening t' zeed=t den overleedenens Dood Alle welke zaaken en dingen Deese verdeedigers geret sijn staande te houden en te bewijzen soo als het deesen Edelen raad goed sal vinden, en versoeken voortaan ontslagen te sijn van haare billijke uijtgaven en onkosten in deesen, alsop eene onbillijke wijse staande gehouden /:was geteek=d/ John Philip Fabricius, John Calland, W. ll=m Cranwell advocaat voor de verdeedigers /:in mar„ gino:/ b'eedigt voor mij den veertienden Septemb: 528 September A=o 1762. /:was geteekent:/ a J=o Haij Raadsheer Accordeerd Pacuquet de Jan EG Clercq Copij 529 Read and filed 14. ' september 1762. The answer of the Reverend Mr John Philip Fabricius, Danish Missionarij of we„ pery, and John Calland of Madrass, Merchand, Executors to the Estate of Charles Lewis Hagemeis„ ter Deceased, late Junior Merchant in the sevvice of the united the East In¬ dia Companij of holland Defendants to the Bill of Complainant of the united the last Jndia Companij of holland, bij theiragent Daniel Bartholomeu Truter Complainants These Defendants now and at all times here after saving and Reser¬ ving to themselves alland all man„ ner of Benefit and advantage of Exception to the manij Ervors uncer„ tainties and untruths in the said Bill. Bill Contained, for answer thereunto or unto so much thereof as this defendents is advised doth materiallij Concern them te make answer into these defendants answer and saij that as to the Estate A the deceased Charles Leuis Ha„ gemeisters being indebted to the Complainants as setforth in their Bill of Complaint, the same is a demand, that these defendants can not see anij Just grounds for having Exa¬ mined the Books of the said deceased Charles Leuis Hagemeister, and that theij can not find anij reasons that the Complai„ nants have for anij such demands, on the said Charles Leuis Hagemeisters Estate„ as there is not the least appearance of anij such sums, therefore these defendants most humblij begleave of this Honble Court that the said Daniel Bartholomeu Fruter agent for the united the East Jndia Companij of Holland, Maij produce proofs for the Justness of the Complainants de„ mands before this Honble. Court, als these defendants have great Reason to believe that the Complainants have no just de„ mands upon the said Charles Lewis Her„ gemeisters Estate, and these defendants further end
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further set forth that the said Daniel Bartholomeu Truter, the Complainants' agent, did never demand payment of the sum of thirteen thousand two hundred and sixty pagodas in an amicable manner; for if the Complainants had requested payment from these defendants, these defendants would have convinced them that the estate of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister was not in any wise indebted to the Complainants. And these defendants further set forth that what the Complainants demanded from these defendants was the delivering up of all the effects of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister, which these defendants by no means could do. These defendants, seeing cause to object to all those claims which have been asserted by the Complainants' agent, Daniel Bartholomeu Truter, beg leave to lay before this Honorable Court their reasons on which the said objections are founded. The first pretended overcharge which the Complainants lay against the estate of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister, deceased, is for the sum of eight thousand seven hundred and thirty-two florins, eight stivers, and eight pence, said to be an overcharge in his transactions on account of the said Company. This being a considerable sum, these defendants are greatly at a loss why this affair was not adjusted before the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister was permitted to leave Bimilipatnam, as the Complainants say that the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister was ordered to refund the same by the government of Nagapatnam on the eighteenth day of January, which was in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and sixty-one, and the Chief of that place should let him away from thence in June, which was about four months afterwards, without ever refunding the said sum of eight thousand seven hundred and thirty-two florins, eight stivers, and eight pence, which, we are persuaded, will be sufficient proof to this Honorable Court that no such debt was due. Which the Chief, knowing, would not take upon him to demand, nor would it now be demanded, we the defendants are of opinion, were the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister living to answer for himself. The Complainants' bare saying that it is an overcharge that was ordered by the government of Nagapatnam that the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister must refund does not argue that these defendants should pay it, without the Complainants showing sufficient reason why it was an overcharge; as the Chief of Bimilipatnam had settled with the deceased about eight days before the departure of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister from thence, as a balance of an account with the said Company of a smaller sum is put to their account by a memorandum from Nagapatnam, which account these defendants have ready to produce to this Honorable Court when required. These defendants cannot imagine how the Chief of Bimilipatnam could let the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister depart from thence before he had obeyed the order of his superiors at Nagapatnam with respect to such a demand, if any such sum was demanded, much more due. These defendants further beg leave to observe that, as no such debt appears upon the books of the said deceased, they do not see any reason which can oblige the estate of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister to discharge this pretended debt, which the Complainants endeavor to make these defendants believe is a real demand, without ever assigning any reason for it. These defendants come now to speak of the second article wherein the Complainants charge the estate of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister for a deficiency of seven thousand five hundred and one and a half pounds of Surat cotton arising upon the delivering over of that article to his successor at Bimilipatnam. These defendants cannot admit of this charge, because the accounts of his delivering the stores of the said Company to his successor—signed by his successors and by two other gentlemen who were appointed to be present on the part of the said Company—show that the said deficiency was lost by the blockade of that factory, upon the walls and batteries of the fort, which account these defendants have ready to produce unto this Honorable Court when required. That, as the placing of these bales of cotton could not proceed from any motive of his own, but by order of his Chief as a thing necessary to save to the Company a much greater loss, these defendants hope this Honorable Court will consider the same, and that the said charge is both unjust and unreasonable. As to the third article that the Complainants have charged the estate of Charles Lewis Hagemeister with, it is for a loss on cotton that was partly damaged, as they pretend, through his neglect when delivered to his successor. These defendants most humbly beg leave to acquaint this Honorable Court in the first place that there is a great error committed by the Complainants, whereby they set the sum of that cotton to a number of one hundred and thirty-five thousand four hundred and thirty pounds, it being only one hundred and eleven thousand three hundred and nineteen pounds and fifteen sixteenths.
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530 further Setforth that the said Daniel Bartholomeu Fruter, the Complainants agent, did, never demand paijment of the sum of Thirteen thousand two hun„ dredand six tij pagodas, in an amicable manner, for if the Complainants had Requested paijment from these defen„ dan is, These defendants would have Convinced them that the Estate of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister was notanij weijs Indebted to the Complainants, and these defendants further setforth that what the Complainants demanded from these defendants, was the delivering upall the Effects of the said Charlas Lewis Hagemeister which these defen„ dants bij no means coulddo. These defendants seeing cause to object to all those claims which have been asserted, bij the Complainants agent, Daniel Bartholomeu Tru„ „ter, these defendants begleave to laij before this Honsle. Court their Rea„ „sons on which the said objections are founded. The F fo doth. to The first pretended overcharge which the Complainants laij against the Estate of the said Charles Lewis Wa„ gemeister Deceased, is for the sum of Eight housand, seven hundred and Thirtij two florins Eight stevers, and Eight pence, said to be an overcharge in lis fransactions on account of the said Companij, this being â Considerable sum, These defendants are grealij ata Lols whij this affair was not adjusted before the said Charles Lewis Hagemeis„ „ter was permitted te have Bimili„ padnam as the Complainants saij that the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister, was ordered to Refund the same bij the gouvernement of Nagapatnam the Eighteenth, daij of Januarij which was in the year of our Lord mnethou„ sand seven hundred and Sixtijone, and the Chief that place should let hem awaij from thence in June which was about four mouths af„ terwards withoutever Refunding the said sum of Eight hous and seven hundred and thirtij two florins Eight stivers P — 531 stivers and Eight pence, will we are persuaded be a sufficient proot of this Honde Court that no such debt was due which the Chief knowing would not take upon him to demand, nor would it nour b'demanded; we the defendents ave of opinion, was the said Charles Louis Hage„ meister living to answer for himself, the Com„ plainants bare saijing that it is an overchar„ ge that was ordered bij the gouvernement of Nagapatnam, that the said Charles Le„ wis Wagemeister must refund, does not arque that these defendants should paij it, without the Complainants shewing suffi„ cient Reason, whiit was an overcharge as the chief of Bimilipadnam had settled with the deceased about Eight daijs before the departure of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister from thence, as a boel„ lance of an account with the. said Companij of a smaller sum is put to their account bij a Memorandum from Nagapatnam which account these defendants have readij to produce tothis hon=tle Court when requi„ red, These defendants can not imagine how the Chief of Bimilipatnam could let the said Charles lewis Wagemeister de part From thence 5. thence before he had obeyed the order of his superiors at Nagapatnam, with respect to such adem and Ifanij such sum was demanded much more due. These defendants furt her begleave to obser„ ve that as no such debt appears upon the books of the said deceased, Theij do not see anij rea„ son which can oblige the Estate of the said Char¬ les Leuis Hagemeister to discharge this. /:pretended:/ debet, which the Complainants En de avour to mukle these defendants belie„ ve is à re al demand without ever assigning anij reason for it These defendants come now to speak of the second article wherin the Complainants charge the Estate of the said Charles lewis Hagemeister, for à deficiencij of seventhou„ sand Five hundred and one, and a half pounds of surat Cotton arising upon the delive, uing over that article, to his successor at bimili¬ patnam, tlese defendants van not admit of Charge because the accounts of his del„ wering the stores of the said Companij to his succesfor signed bij his successors and bij two other gentlemen who were appointed to be pre¬ sent on the part of the said Companijshews that 531 that the said deficiencij was lost bij the blocka„ de of that factorij, upon the walles and batterijs of the fort which account these defendants have readij to produce unto this honble Court, when required, that as the placing these bales of Cotton could not proceed from anij motive of his own, but bij order of his Chief as a thing ne„ cessarij to save to the Companij a much greater loss, these defendants hope this honble Court will Consi„ der the same, and that the said Charge is both unjust and unreasonable As to the third article, that the Complai„ nants have Charged the Estate of Charles Leuis Hagemeister with, is for a Loss on cotton that was parthij Damaged as theij pretend through his Neglict when delive„ red to his successor, these defendants most humblij beg' leave to acquaint this Honble Court in the first place that there is a great Evror Commited bij the Complai„ nants wherbij theij set the sum of that catton to a Number of one hundred and Thirtij five thousands four hundred and Thirtij pounds, it being onlij one hundred andeleven thousand, Three hundred, and nineteen pounds and fist een sisteenth 8
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of a pound, as they can show by the aforesaid account signed at the delivery of the said cotton, so that the complainants have over and above charged the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister with twenty-four thousand, one hundred and ten pounds, and one-sixteenth of a pound, than is upon the accounts. Secondly, these defendants cannot allow the complainants that the damage of a part of that cotton happened, as the complainants say, through the neglect of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister, because in the said account of the delivery of the stores, signed by the successor of the deceased, and signed by the two other gentlemen who were appointed to be present at the delivery of the stores, these defendants find that those two gentlemen have given a declaration concerning the cause of the said damage and without ever making any mention of a neglect of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister. They relate that of the one hundred and eleven thousand, three hundred and nineteen pounds, and fifteen-sixteenths of a pound of the said cotton, a great deal was spoiled and foul, being several bales by laying upon the batteries and the walls of the fort, and likewise the pack-cloths and cords in the straw houses abroad rotten, and the cotton on one side two or three inches damaged and become unfit to be spun. It is therefore evident by the declaration that at least that damage of the cotton suffered by being upon the walls and batteries of the fort in the time of the blockade, consequently is not to be ascribed to the neglect of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister, but to the public distress at that time. As for that part of the cotton which was put into straw houses, the damage of it cannot be any ways attributed to the neglect of the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister, but to the want of proper places other than straw houses to put such an article in, which is well known to take damage upon the least wet coming to it. If the Company would not make a proper place for the reception of such an article, is the deceased's estate to answer for such a neglect? Another circumstance which we must beg leave to observe to this honorable court is that cotton might have laid many years in these straw houses, and if so must doubtless have contributed greatly to its being rotten and unfit to be spun. These defendants come now to speak of the fourth and last article that the complainants by their agent have charged the said Charles Lewis Hagemeister's estate with, as demanding from the same a third part of the outstanding debts due to the said East India Company of Holland at the time of his leaving Bimilipatnam. How unreasonable this demand is, we humbly leave to the opinion of this honorable court, not one of which that we know was contracted by the said deceased; and if they were, must most certainly be advanced for the benefit of the said Company and what he could receive no advantage from, but the promoting their interest, and by the direction and approbation of the Chief of the factory (this in case any debts were made by the deceased, for if there were none, he certainly cannot be accountable for what he did not do, which does in no way appear, and for what information the bill of complaint gives might have been contracted these twenty years). That we the defendants are very ready to discharge any just and lawful debts that the deceased's estate might own, but we must beg leave to observe to this honorable court that not one of these appears to be so, but to be a made-up account since the deceased's death. All which matters and things these defendants are ready to ever maintain and prove as this honorable court shall direct, and humbly pray to be hence dismissed with their reasonable costs and charges in this behalf most wrongfully sustained. John Philip Fabricius John Calland Sworn to before me the 14 September 1762. Jas Hay Alderman Wm Cranwell Attorney for the defendants Agreed EG Clercq Baucquet De Jan No. 19 Reply by the bookkeeper Daniel Bartholomeus Pruter, on behalf of the General Dutch East India Company, and in the name of the Right Honorable the Governor and Council at Nagapatnam, delivered to the Honorable Court of Justice of the English gentlemen at Madraspatnam, to the answer submitted by their honors from the Reverend John Philip Fabricius of Vepery, Danish missionary, and John Calland of Madras, merchant, as executors of the estate of the deceased Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, during his lifetime Junior Merchant in the service of the aforesaid Dutch East India Company, and Second of its office at Bimilipatnam. Honorable Sirs, In refutation of the executors' position stated at the beginning of the aforementioned answer, namely that upon examining the books of the deceased Junior Merchant Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister they could not find that the Dutch Company had any right to claim the general sum of thirteen thousand two hundred and seventy pagodas specified in the memorial from his estate, and also had never been approached in a friendly manner for that payment, but rather that the surrender of that entire estate had been demanded from them; it serves to state: that it is very easy to understand that Hagemeister did not keep any record of the Company's matters or affairs in his private books.
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of a pound, as theij can shew bij the aforesaid ac„ count signed at the deliverij of the said Cotton, so that the Complainants have over and above Charged the said Clarles lewis Hagemeister with twentij four Theusand, one hundred and ten pounds, and onesisteenth of a pound, then is upon the ac„ counts, secondlij these debendants can not alloi the Complainants that the damage of a part of that cotton happened as the Complainants saij through the neglect of the said Charles Leuis Hagemeister, Because in the said account of the delivery of the stores, sig„ ned bij the successor of the deceased, and sig„ ned bij the two other gentlemen who were appointed to be present at the deliverij of the stores, these defendants find that those two gentlemen have given a declaration cou„ cerning the cause of the said damage and without ever making anij mention of a neglect of the said Charles Louis Hage„ meister, Theij relate that of the one hun„ dred and Elevent housand, three hundred and nineteen pounds, and fisteen sisteenth of a pound of the said Cotton a great de al was spoiled and foul being several bales ( bij sa„ ring upon the batteries, and the walles of the fort ende 533 fort and likewise the packCloths and Cords in the straw houses abroad rotten, and the Cotton on one side two or three Inches damaged and become unfit to be spun Its therefore Evident bij the declaration that at Least that damage of the cotton suffered bij being upon the walls and Batteries of the fort in the time of the blockade, Consequentlij is not to be ascribd to the neglect of the said Charles le„ wis Hagemeister, but to the publik dis„ tress at thas time, as for that part of the Cotton, which was put into straas houses the damage of it, can not be anij waijs attributed to the neglect of the said Charles lewis Hagemeister, but to the want of proper places than strauw houses to put such an article in, whiek is well known to take dama„ ge upon the least wet comin to it, Jf the Companij would notmake a proper pla„ ce for the reception of such an article, is the deceased Estate to answer such à Neglect: another Circumstance which we must begleave to observe to these hon=e Courtis, that cotton might hare e ac„ have laid manij years in these straw hou„ ses, and if so must doubtless have contribu„ ted greatlij to its being rotten, and unfit to be spun These defendants Come now to speak of the fourth and last article that the com„ plainants bij their agent have Charged the said Charles Leuis Hagemeisters Estates with, as demanding from the same a third part of the outstanding debts due to the said the last Jndia Companij of hol„ land at the time of his leaving Bimili„ patnam hou unreasonable this demand is we humblij leave to the opinion of this honden Court, not one of which that we know was contracted bij the said deceased and it theij werij, must most certainlij be advanced for the Benesct of the said Companij and what he could receive no advantage from, but the promoting their Intrest, and bij the di„ rection and approbation of the Chief of the factorij /:This in case Janij debets was made bij the deceased, for if there was none He certainlij can not be accountable for what he did not do, which does no waij appear, and for what Information the bill e 534 bill of Complaint gives might have been Contracted these twentij years That we the defendants are verij readij to discharge anij Just and Lawfull debts that the dece ased Estate mightown, but we must beg leave to observe to this honble Court, that not one of these appears to be so, but to be a made up account sunce the deceased death All which matters and things these defendants ave readij to ever maintain and prove as this honle. Court shall direct and humblij praij to be hince dismessed with their Reasonable Costs and Chareps in this behalf most wrongfullij subtained John Philip Fabricius sworn to before me the 14. September 1762. John Calland Jas Haij Wm Cranwell Alderman attorneij for the defendants Accordeerd EG Clercq Baucquet De Jan N N 19 535 Replicq door den boek„ houder Daniel Bartholo„ meus Pruter, van weegens de generaale Nederlandse oost„ indische Comp:, en uijt naame van den wel Edelen heer gouver„ neur en Raad tot Nagapat„ nam aan den Edelen Raat van Justitie der heeren engelsen tot Madraspatnam overgegeeven, op het bij haar Edelens ingesiend antwoord van den Eerwaarden heer John Philip Fabrisius van Weperij, deen sch Missio naris en John Calland van Madras, Koopman, als Execu„ teurs der Nalatenschap van den overleedenen Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, in Leeven ge„ weest zijnde onder Coopman in dienst van voorm: Nederlandsche oost. Ter wederlegging van der Executeurs poositie, bij den aanvang van 't bovengenoemde antwoord ver„ meld als dat bij het examineeren der boeken van den overleedenen onderCoopman Carel Lodewijk Ha„ gemeister niet hadden konnen vinden, de Nederlandsche Compagnie eenige regt hadde, om de bij memorie opgegeevene generale somma van Dertien duijzend twee hondert en see„ ventig pagooden uijt desselfs nabatenschap te vorderen, en ook nooijt op een vriendelijke wijse, om die betaalinge waaren aangesprooken, maar wel van haar „ geijscht was, de overleevering dien geheele naarlatenschap; diend: dat het seer wel te begrijpen is, hij hogemeister bij zijne particuliere boeken, geen aanteekening van of affaires gehouden heeft SComp:s zaaken Edele Heeren oostindische Compagnie, en tweede van derselver Comptoir te Cimilipatnam en
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536 and therefore the Executors could not discover anything of the claimed amount from it, but the same must still be paid by him according to the books of the Honourable Company; and that the Executors were not addressed for that reason, but were requested to surrender the entire estate (which they nevertheless refused to do) solely so that, if they should agree to the latter or to the surrender, the Honourable Company could then find their recourse upon it themselves, since in that case it was not deemed necessary to make the arrears of the said Hagemeister known to the Executors; and furthermore, as he had been a servant of the Dutch Company, he was according to the laws and customs of the Honourable Company by no means authorized to reside in a foreign place without permission of his superiors, or to dispose of his possessions there in case of illness, other than that in case of decease his estate might be remitted and transported to the nearest chiefs of a Dutch place. As regards the first article of the debit against the said Hagemeister, made known in the aforementioned submitted memorial, amounting to 8732 guldens, 8 stuijvers and 8 penningen, such arises from an excessive debit of the Honourable Company made by him in accounts sent over from Bimilipatnam concerning the purported purchase of victuals and other provisions during the blockade of that factory by the prince, amounting together to the sum of 11732 guldens, 8 stuijvers and 8 penningen; of which, as appears from an annexed extract resolution of the Coromandel government at Nagapatnam, dated 10 June Anno 1761, no more than 3000 guldens could be validated, and it was ordered that the remaining above-cited amount be reimbursed to the Honourable Company, which he, Hagemeister, having brought it up in his post as second, consequently had to satisfy. 537 However, that order having only been received at Bimilipatnam after his departure from there, it was sent back to Nagapatnam by the chief, in the expectation that, as his oath of duty entailed, he would already have arrived there, in order that this amount could be demanded from him at that main factory. Thus the entire contention of his aforementioned Executors falls away, namely that he had departed from Bimilipatnam about four months after receiving that order without ever having been addressed by the chief at that place regarding its restitution; for it is an entirely untrue assertion of the said Executors that this order for restitution had been dispatched from Nagapatnam on 18 January 1761, but rather the decision was only taken there on 18 June 1761, as is evident from the aforementioned extract resolution; and in the submitted memorial the latter date is also very clearly expressed, and it was nothing more than equitable that the reimbursement of that sum was imposed upon him, Hagemeister, because, having enjoyed the profits on its purchase, he also had to pay for what was not validated on that account, whereas against this he was permitted to take back the rice and other provisions brought into stock. He would also without doubt have been addressed about this upon arriving at Nagapatnam and would have been ordered to pay it out, although the aforementioned Executors are of the opinion that this amount would not have been demanded from him if he were still alive and could answer for himself, whereby they would wish to imply that the Honourable Company formed a fabricated claim on that estate; which by no means applies in this matter, given the always upright conduct of the Honourable Company, of the contrary of which no one can be persuaded. The second article of the memorial, mentioning a deficit or under-accounted 7501½ pounds of Sourats cotton, at the cost of 285 guldens, 7 stuijvers 538 and 8 penningen; the Executors state that the account (or transfer) handed over by Hagemeister to his successor proves that the same was lost during the blockade of Bimilipatnam on the ramparts and batteries of the fort. This explanation, put forward in detail by him, Hagemeister, in the said transfer, by no means demonstrates that it truly happened in the manner stated by him therein, nor that the Coromandel government is obliged or bound to merely validate the deficit according to the statement of an administrator, and accept their declaration as cash money; for had that cotton positively been missed or lost during that blockade, it would have been his indisputable duty immediately, and upon regaining access to the warehouses that were in his custody, to give report thereof, as well as
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536 en dus daar bij door de Executeurs ook niets van het gepretenseerde konde ontwaard werden maar het zelve moet volgens de boeken der E: Comp:, door hem nog 4 werden betaalt, en dat de excuteurs diendweegen niet aangesproken, maar verzogt zijn geworden het 198 overgaaf van de Gantsche nalaatenschap /: het geen egter door haar geweijgert is te doen :/ sal„ leen geschied om wanneer in 't Laaste, of de overgave bewilligen, d' E: Comp: als dan hun regaet daar op selfs kande vinden, vermits in dat cal niet Noodsakelijk geoordeeld wierde, het agterweesen van gem: hagemeister aan de Executeurs be„ kend te maaken; mitsgaders denselven als een bediende vande hollandse Comp: geweest zijn se, volgens de wetten en costuijmen der E: Comp: ook gaenzints bevoegt was, zig buijten permissie zijner gebiederen op een vreemde plaatse op te houden of aldaar bij ziekte over zijn besitting verder te disponeeren dan dat in Cas van overleijden zijn nalaatenschap aan de Naast geleegene opperhoofden eener hollandse plaatse mogte werden overgemaakt en en getransporteerd. wat nu aangaat het Eerste artikel der belasting van gemelde Hagemeister, bij voorm: „je over„e geve memorie bekend, beloopende 8732. gul„ dens 8. stuijvers en 8: penningen, zulx is voort„ spruijtende uijt eene door hem te veel gedaane belastinge van dE: Comp: bij overgezondene ree„ „keningen van bimilipatnam, noopens voor gegeeve inkoop van victalier en andere voorraad, bij de gedaane blocquade van dat Comptoir door den prins, te zaame ten beloope van 11732. guldens 8. stuijvers en 8. penningen waar van, blijkens een hier Neevens gevoegt extract resolutie van de Cormandelse reegering tot Nagapatnam, sub dato 10 Junij A=o 1761. niet meer heeft konnen werden gefalideert dan 3000 guldens, en het overige boven geciteerd bedragen geordonneert geworden is, aan d'E: Comp: te rembourseeren, het geen hij hogemeister als in zijn polt van tweede op gebragte hebbende dan ook moeste vol¬ doen. 537 doen, dog die ordre na zijn vertrek van bimilip=n, aldaar eerst ontvangen weesende, door het opper„ hoofd weeder na nagapatnam is geschikt, in verwag„ ting hij zoo als zijn Eeder pligt, meede gebragt had„ de bereedt aldaar zoude sijn aangekoomen, ten eijnde dat montant van hem te dier hoofdplaat„ se konde werden afgevordert; dus vervalt de geheele stelling zijner voorm: Executeurs, dat omtrent vier maanden, na het ontvangen dier was vertrokken, bimilipatnam ordre, van zonder door het opperhoofd te dier plaatse ouijt omtrent dies vergoeding aangesprooken te zijn, want het is een gantsch onwaaragtig voorgeeven van gezegde Executeurs, dat die ordre ter vergoeding, den 18. ' Janv: 1761. van nagap=n zoude zijn aff„ gegeanen gaan, maar het besluijt is aldaar eerst P genoomen den 18. ' Junij 1761. gelijk bij voorm: Consteert; en ook in de overge„ Extract resolutie legde memorie wel duijdelijk de laastgenoemde datum g'expresseert staat, en het is niet meer dan billijk geweest, dat hem hage„ meister de vergoeding van die somma opge„ legt der dat ligt wierde, wijl hij van de voordeelen op dies in koop ge„ gaudeert bebbende, uijt dien hoofde ook het niet gevalideert werdende moeste betaalen, waar en teegens hem gepermitteerd is, de in voorraad gebragte rijst en verdere provisien weeder na zig te konnen neemen, ook zoude hij daar over zonder twijffel, wanneer tot Nagap=m gekoomen was, zijn aangesproken, en tot dies uijtkeering ge„ ordonneert hebben geworden, schoon de voormelde Executeurs van gevoelen zijn dat bedragen wan„ „leeven neer nog in wesen was en zig verantwoorden konst niet van hem zoude werden gevordert waarmeese Willer Wel zoude „ te kennen geeven dE: Comp: een gefin„ geerde pretentie op dien boedel formeerde; het welk gantsch met de althoos zuijver geweest zijnde behandeling van dE: Comp: en van welkens. Con„ trarie door niemant overtuijgd kan werden, in deesen geensints te passe komt. Het tweede artikel der memorie, gewagende van te kort of te min verantwoorde 7501½ ponden sou„ rats Cakkoen, ten kosten van 285. guldens 7. stuijvers 538 strijvers en 8: penningen; zeggen de Executeurs dat de door hagemeister overgegeevene reekening (:of transport:) aan zijner vervanger, bewijst dat het zelve verlooren was bij de blockee„ ring van bimilipatnam op de wallen en batterijen van 't fort. gestalte, kot inmel mt Dit door hem Hagemeister bij gemeld transport ter nader„ gestelde, zoont immers niet aan dat het weesentlijk indiervoegen daar meede geleegen zij, als door hem daar bij ward opgegeeven, nog ook dat de Cormandelse regeering ver„ pligt of gehouden is, om navolgens de op„ gave eener administrateur, het te kort koomen„ de maar te moeten valideeren, en hun op„ gifte voor Contante munt aanneemen, want was dat Cattoen Cositeef bij die blocquasie ver„ mist, of te zoek Geraakt, zoo hadde het van sijne indisputabele pligt geweest, ten eersten, en bij de wederbekoominge, in de onder zijn berusting gehad hebbende pakhuijsen daar van berigt te geeven, mitsgaders het ge„ et
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to receive the same in the presence of commissioners, in which case, according to the Company's customs, he would have been discharged from it. However, this having been neglected by him, and his having handed over this deficient quantity to his successor upon the transfer, something certainly had to be devised in this regard that seemed somewhat plausible according to his line of thinking, even though the same is entirely unjust and unreasonable, and not the Company's claim in that regard, as the executors have come to express it. With respect to the third article of the repeatedly mentioned memorandum, there having been debited to the account of the said Hagemeister a sum of 27083: guilders and 19. stivers for the loss incurred in the sale of 135430: pounds of cotton, for the reason that he had utterly neglected its administration, the executors take exception that a great mistake had been made in that statement, since by the aforementioned account or transfer cited by them they could show that it should only have been 111319 9/16 pounds, and that Hagemeister was thus charged for 24110 5/16. pounds more than was noted in that account or the transfer. Concerning this, it should be known that the aforementioned 135430. lb. has no relation to the 111319 1/16. lb. handed over at the transfer, and thus the first-mentioned quantity was sold at such a loss as stated during the presence and under the administration of him, Hagemeister, at Bimilipatnam, just as the last-cited quantity, although also at a loss, was only turned over after his departure. So that everything cited about this by the executors—namely that the greatest part of it had been spoiled and soiled through use on the batteries and walls of the fort during the time of the blockade, and therefore could not be imputed to any neglect of Hagemeister—stood to collapse completely through this clarification. For this cotton to the amount of 135430. lb. never served on any walls or batteries for any use, nor lay in any straw houses, as the repeatedly mentioned executors sought to pretend, and attempted, if possible, to demonstrate by the aforementioned transfer that it had so happened. But on the contrary, it remained in the Company's warehouses under the care and custody of Hagemeister, who was and remained liable for all spoilage that was caused by his negligence and neglect both to that and to all other goods of the Honorable Company placed under his custody, and he had to make good the damage suffered thereby. Finally, by the fourth article of the memorandum, the deceased Hagemeister was charged, for an initial portion, not to pay, but to deposit into the Company's treasury, an amount of 20231. guilders 5. stivers and 8. pence on account of the debt of the Bimilipatnam merchants until such time as that debt is paid by the said merchants, in order then to be restituted again to him or to his family. This claim was recorded by the executors in their reply as unreasonable, since they say that to their knowledge none of those debts had been contracted by the deceased, and if such had indeed happened, it would have been to the profit of the Honorable Company, from which he had gained no advantage. However, the situation regarding this item is entirely different, because Hagemeister not only took over the said debts at his transfer, but also, not alongside the chief, approved and accepted the guarantors pledged for them, whereas those guarantors, through death as well as otherwise, were incapable of having satisfied that debt. Whereby it naturally speaks for itself that he and his chief are accountable and responsible for it, all the more so since the said Hagemeister's successor signed with exception for that debit in the aforementioned account or the transfer cited by the executors in this matter, and thus left it to his accountability; which, however, as shown hereinbefore, is to be paid out again as soon as it is settled by the merchants, and for which there may perhaps still be some prospect. And the reply of the repeatedly mentioned executors having herewith been fully rebutted and refuted, Your Honors are consequently requested to enjoin them nevertheless to surrender the entire estate of the deceased junior merchant and former Bimilipatnam secunde Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister to the Honorable Company, or else to the payment of the aforementioned demanded thirteen thousand two hundred and seventy pagodas, being according to the customs and laws of the Dutch Company, under which he, Hagemeister, as well as all other servants, was categorized. Namquet de Jan Agrees EG Clercq. No 20 Wednesday The 8th of June Anno 1767 Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam. And furthermore, regarding the fact that, in respect of the reply sent from here concerning the estate of the deceased Bimilipatnam secunde Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, mentioned in the Resolution of the 28th of November of the past year, they only communicated in theirs of the 10th of April aforesaid that they had caused the same to be delivered to the attorney Palmer at the aforementioned Madraspatnam, without making any further mention of that matter since that time; just as if nothing else than the delivery of that paper had been commanded of them, and no further report concerning the handling and continuation of the lawsuit was necessary. Agrees Namquet de Tan EG Clercq
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het zelve ten overstaan van gecommitteerdens te ontvangen; in welk geval volg:s sComp:s Costumen daar van zoude zijn gelibereert, dog dit door hem versuijmd zijnde en dis quantiteijd bij de overgave te kort aan sijn vervanger overleeverende, moest immers wel iets dierweegens bedagt werden, het geen eenigsints volgens zijn Tenk„ beeld aannemelijk scheen, hoe wel het selve geheel onregtvaardig en onreedelijk is, en niet sComp: preten„ „haar tie dierweegens, zoo als de executeurs „ koomen uijt¬ te drukken Ten opzigte van het derde articul bij meermelde memorie, gezegden Hagemeister ten Lasten ga„ bragt weesende Een zomma van 27083: guldens, en 19. stuijvers, over gevallen verlies bij verkoop van 135430: ponden Cattoen, om reeden dat gespironder desselfs administratie ten eenemaal verwaarloost had„ de excipieeren die Executeurs dat in die opgaave eene groote misslag begaan was, alzoo bij de door haarlieden voorwaarts vermelde aangehaalde reekening /:of Transport :/ konden aanthonen, het selve maar moeste weesen 111319 9/16 ponden, en dat dus Hagemeister voor 24110 5/16. ponden meerder belast. 539 belast was, dan bij die reecq: /: of het transport :/ bekend stond waaromtrent geweeten diend te werden, dat de eevengenoemde 155430. lb. geene betrekking hebben, met de bij het transport overgegeevene 11139 1/16. lb: en dusde eerstgemelde quantiteijt bij het aanweesen en onser de administratie van hem hagemeister te bimilipat„ vam met zodanigen verlies, als gezegt verkogt sijn geworden, gelijk de Laast geciteerde hoe veelheijd hoewel almeede met verlies eerst na zijn vertrek is omgezet; Jnvoegen alle het daar over aangehaal„ de door de Executeurs als dat het grootste gedeelte daar van bedurven en vuijl was geraakt, door het gebruijken op de batterijen ende Wallen van 't fort ten zijde der blocqueering, en daarom aan geen verzuijm vanHagemeister konde toegeweeten werden, door deeze op heldering ten eenemaal induijgen stond, want dit Cattoen ten beloope van 135430. lb: hooft op Geen wallen of batterijen tot eenig gebruijk gediend, nog in geen strooij huijsen geleegen, zoo als de meermelde Executeurs wel wilden voor„ wenden, en met meergenoemd transport, waare het mogelijk tragten aantethoonen, dat ge te aar uijt¬ geschied zoude zijn, maar heeft ter Contrarie in 'sComp:s pakhuijsen, onder de zorge en bewaaring van hagemeister berust, die voor alle bederf welke door desselfs negligence en verzuijm zoo daar aan, als aan alle andere onder sijn bewaaring gesteld geweest zijnde Effecten der E: Comp:, aanspree„ kelijk was en bleef en de daar aan geleedene schade moeste vergoeden Eijndelijk werd bij het vierde artikal der memorie den over„ ludenen Hagemeister voor een Eerde gedeelte ten Laste gebragt, niet om te betaalen, maar om in 'sComp:s Cassa te namptiseeren, een bedragen van 20231. guld:s 5. stuijvers en 8. penningen, weegens den debet den Kimilipatnamse Cooplieden tot tijd en wijlen die schuld door gemelde marchiandeurs voldaan is, om als dan aan hem of de zijner weeder gerestitueerd te werden, deesen eijsch werd door de Executeurs voor onreedelijk bij haar antwoord te boek gesteld, vermits zij zeggen dat bij haar weeten geene van die schulden door den overleedenen waaren gesleeten, en indien zulx al geschiet was, het 540 het zelve ten profegte der E: Comp: zoude zijn geweest, waar van hij geen voordeel gehad hadde, dog met deese post is het geheel anders geleegen, wijl Hagemeister gesegde schil„ den niet alleen bij desselfs transport heeft overgenoomen, maar ook niet en beneevens het opperhoofd, de zig daar voor verbondene borgen goedgekeurt en aangenoomen, daar egter die borgen bij overleijden als anderzints in Capabel geweest zijn die schuld te hebben konnen vol„ doen, waar door het immers van selfs spreekt dat hij en zijn opperhoofd daar voor redevabel en verantwoordelijk zijn, te meer daar gemelden Hagemeisters vervanger bij de door de Executeurs in deezen meergemelde aangehaalde reekening /:of het transport :/ met exceptie voor die debet geteekend heeft, en dus voor sijn verantwoording gelaaten; dewelke egter gelijk hier vooren aan„ getoond. weder staat uijtgekeerd te werden, zoo dra door de Cooplieden werd vereevend, en waar toe moo„ gelijk nog wel apparentie sijn zal En hier mede dan het antwoord van meermel„ de executeurs ten vollen wederlagt en gereflui„ teert teert zijnde, werd uwel Edelens mits dien ver„ sogt, haar lieden als nog te imponeeren ter over„ gaave der gantsche Nalatenschap vanden overlede„ nen ondercoopman en geweesen bimilipatnamsen s:Cunde Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister aan HE: Comp: dan wel inde betaaling der voorm: g'eijschte dertien duijzend twee hondert en seventig pagooden, als volgens Costuijmen en wetten der Nederlandse Comp: zijnde, Waar onder hij hagemeester zoo wel als alle andere bediendens heeft gecorteerd gehad, Namquet de Jan Accordeerd EG Clercq. No 20 541 Woensdag Den 8. ' Junij A=o 1767 En nog meer, over dat ten opsigte van 't van hier gezondene Replica betreffende den boedel van den overleeden Bimilipatnamsen secunde Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, vermeld ter Resolutie van den 38: 9ber: des verweeken Jaars, eerst bij den haaren van den 10. ' april voorn: Communiceeren, het zelve aan den advocaat Palmer tot gedagt madraspatnam hadden doen t overhandigen, zonder dierweeg:s zeed=t van die zaak iets verders te reppen; even of haar niets anders dan de bestel„ linge van dat papier was aanbevoolen ge Extract uijt de Resolutie Genoomen in raade van Cor„ mandel tot Nagapatnam op worden. worden, en geen verder te doen verslag, be„ langende de afhandeling en vervolging van 't proces nodig was — Accordeerd Namquet de Tan EG Clercq
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No 21. 542 Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Monday the 1st of August 1768. As well as further report given concerning the lawsuit pending before the English Court at Madraspatnam against the Executors of the Estate of the deceased Junior Merchant and former Secunde of Bimilipatnam, Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, since nothing was heard concerning it, or that on the contrary, all the detrimental consequences frequently arising therefrom would be left for the account and responsibility of the employees. Agreed. Hauquet de Jan EG Clercq No 22 543 Sir Enclosed I send you the rejoinder of Mr Hagemeister's Executors for your perusal. You will please to observe that the suit now waits for the examination of the witnesses to prove the facts with which you have charged Mr Hagemeister's estate. You will then please to let me know who those witnesses are, so that I may obtain an order of the Council for their examination. The matters to be proved are: 1st: that Mr Hagemeister's charge of provisions was an overcharge, and such that he was answerable for. 2nd: that of the deficiency in weight of the Surat cotton, and that this deficiency arose through the neglect of the aforesaid Mr Hagemeister. 3rd: the damages which the cotton sustained through the neglect of the aforesaid Hagemeister, which must be particularly proved. 4th: the outstanding debts with which Mr Hagemeister's estate is charged, of which you must produce strong evidence that there really were such debts existing at the time of his departure from Bimilipatnam, and that according to the established laws and customs of the Dutch Company, their servants are bound to pay the same. Awaiting your answer, I remain, underneath was written: Sir, your humble servant, was signed: Archdale Palmer, in the margin: Fort St George, the 8th of August 1763. Lower down was written: P.S. As I am in need of some money for the prosecution of the lawsuit, please inform me to whom I must apply. The sum is 10 pagodas, for which I shall give you a receipt and render account of the same at the conclusion of the suit. Agreed. Hauquet de Jan EG Clercq 564 Sir Inclosed I send you a copy of the Rejoinder of Mr Hagemeister's Executors for your perusal, you will please to observe that the suit now waits for the Examination of the witnesses to prove the facts you have Charged Mr Hagemeister's Estate with, you will please therefore to let me know who are these witnesses, that I may procure an order of Court for their Examination, The facts to be proved are, 1st that Mr Hagemeister's Charge of provisions was an overcharge, and such that he must be answerable for. 2d the Deficiency of the weight in the Surat Cotton, and that this deficiency arose through the neglect of the said Mr Hagemeister 3d The damage the Cotton sustained through the neglect of the said Mr Hagemeister which must be particularly proved 4th The outstanding debts Charged to Mr Hagemeister's Estate which you must produce Evidence to prove that there really were such debts Existing at the time of his departure from Bimilipatnam, and that according to the Established Laws and Customs of the Netherlands Company their servants are bound to discharge the same. Waiting your answer herein I remain, underneath was written: Sir your most humble servant, was signed: Archdale Palmer, in the margin: Fort St George the 8th of August 1763. Lower down: P.S. As I am in want of a little money for the expenses of the suit, you will please to let me know to whom I am to apply, The sum is ten pagodas, for which I shall give you a receipt, and account with you for the same at the issue of the suit. Hauquet de Jan Agreed. EG Clercq No: 23 545 A rejoinder from the Reverend John Philip Fabricius, of Vepery, Danish Missionary, and John Calland, of Madras, merchant, Executors of the estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, Junior Merchant in the service of the United Dutch East India Company, Defendants, to the answer of the United East India Company of the Netherlands, by their Agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, Plaintiffs. These Defendants, now and at all times hereafter, saving to themselves all rights and benefits of exceptions to the many errors, defects, and uncertainties contained in the aforesaid answer, say that all and singular the matters and things in these Defendants' answer are the truth, and are sufficient in law to be answered unto; and these Defendants further say, regarding the first article upon which the respondents insist in order to charge the estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister, it is for a pretended overcharge of 8732 guilders, 8 stivers, 8 pence, which according to their statement arose from the provisions purchased by him at various times for the blockade of the residency of Bimilipatnam, concerning which the respondents refer to an order from the Nagapatnam Presidency (government) by which he was ordered to make good this overcharge: These Defendants further say that they cannot possibly admit the said extract as sufficient proof of the legality of the said claim, nor is it conceivable that the aforesaid deceased C: L: Hagemeister could procure anything for the use of that residency without an order from the Chief of that place, under whose orders he was, nor can.
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No 21. 542 Extract uijt De Reso„ Maandag Den 1.:' Augustus 1768. Mitsgaders nader berigt gegeeven wegens het voor de Engelse Regtbank tot ma„ araspatnam hangend Geding, met de Executeurs des Boedels van den overleeden onder Coopman, en geweesen Bimilipatmam„ sen secunde Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, nademaal daar van niets quam te vernemen, of dat men bij dies tegendeel, alle de daar uijt dikwerf voortekomene nadeelige ge„ volgen, voor der bediendens reekening en verantwoording zouden Laaten — Accordeerd Haesequet de Jan lutie Genoomen in Raade van Cormandel tot Nagapatnam op EClercq 1 No 22 543 Mijn Heer Hier in geslooten sende ik UE: het weeder antwoord van M=r Hagemeisters Executeuren tot uE: speculatie uEd: zult gelieven te observeeren, dat het proces nu Wagt voor de examinatie van de getuijgen om de daden te bewijsen, waar van uE: m:r Hjagemeisters nalatenschap belast hebt, uE: zult mij dan gelieven op te geeven, wie die getuijgen zijn op dat ik een ordre van den raad tot haare examinatie verkrijgen: Die saakendig er te bewijsen zijn, zijn 's: dat m:r hagemeister belasting van voorraad, een meerdere belasting wal, en zoodanig dat hij verantwoordelijk was 2. ' dat vande minwigt van 't sourats Cattoen, en dat deese minderlheijd spruijte door het versuijm van voorm: M:r Hagemeister 3. de schadens die het Cattoen ondergaan heeft door het versuijm van voorm: Hagemeister, welke bijsonderlijk beweesen moet werden 41: De uijtstaande schulden, waar van m:r hage„ meester nalatenschap belast S: van wel„ ke ke uE: kragtige bewijzen moet produceeren dat 'er wesentlijk zodanige schuldens in den tijd „zijn van „ vertrek van bimilip=m in weesen waaren, en dat overeenkomstig met de vast gestelde Wetten, en Usantien van de nederlandsche Comp: hunne dienaaren gehouden zijn de„ zelve te betaalen uE: antwoord verwagtende, verblive /:onderstond:/ mijn heer uEd: onderd: dienaar /: was get:/ Archdal Palmer /:in margine:/ fort S=t george den 8:' Aug: 1763. /:Lager:/ stond P: S: alsoo ik eenig geld tot vervolging van't proces benodigt heb, gelieft mij te melden, aan wien ik mij moet addresseeren, de somma is 10. pag: waar voor ik uE: een quitantie zal geeven en reekenschap van 't selve doen zal; met het eijndigen van het proces — Accordeerd Namquet De Van EG Clercq en 564 Sir Inclosed Isend yon a Copij of the Rejoinder of M.r. Wagemeisters Executors for your perusal, you will please to observe that the suit now waits for the Examination of the witnisses to prove the facts you have Charged Mr. Hage„ meisters Estate with, zon will please the„ refore to let me know who are these witness, that I may procure an order of Court for their Examination, The facts to be proved are, 1th thal M. r Hagemeister Charge of provision was an overcharge, and such that he must be answerable for. 2d the Difficiencij of the weight in the surrat Cotton, and that this difficiencij arrose through the neglect of the said Mr. Hagemeester 3d The damage the Cotton sustaind thro the neglect of the said Mr. Hagemeister which must be particulareij proved The outstanding debts Charged to Mr. Wagemeisters Estate which you must produce Evedence to prove that there realij was such debts Existing at the time of his de parture from biblipatnam, and that according to the Established Laws and Customs, of the Aetherlands Companij their servants ave bound to discharge the same. waiting your answer herein I: re„ main /:onderstond: sir your most hum„ ble servant /:was geteeckend:/ Arcndale palmer /in margine:/ Fortf:t george thes:t aug:s 1763. /:lager:/ Ps: As Tam in want 0b:—. of a little moneij for the lx pences of the suit, you will please te let me know to whom I am to applij, The sum is ten pagodes, for which I shall give youa aceipt, and account with you for the same at the Issue of the suit. Dauquet De Sanl Accordeert EG Clercq Same No: 23 545 Een weder antwoord van den Eerwaar¬ den heer John Philip fabricius, van Weperij Deensch Missionaris, en John Calland, van Madras koopman Executeurs van der nalatenschap van den overleeden Charles Louis Hagemeister, onderCoopman in dienst van de gunieerde Hollandsche oostindische Comp: verdeedigens op het ant„ woord van de ofunieerde oostin„ dische Comp: van holland, door haaren Agent Daniel Bartholemeus Truter„ klagers Deeze Verdeedigers nu, en alle nakomen¬ de zyden behouden aan haar selven, alle voor¬ regten en voordeelen van uijtsonderingen in de menige fauten defect en onseekerheedens in voorn: antwoord bevat, zeggen, dat alle en bijsonderlijk de saaken en dingen in deese verdee„ digers digerl antw: de waarheijd sijn, en in regten bestaan kan om daar op beantwoord te worden en deese ver„ deedigers zeggen verders, aangaande het eerste articul waar over de antwoorders aandringen, om de „ laten„ schap van Charles Louis Hagemeister te be„ lasten, is voor eene gepretenseerde meerdere belas„ ting van ƒ8732: 8:8. welke volgens haar seggen spruijten uijt de door hem op diverse tijden ingekogte provisier voor de blockeering vande resodentie van Rimilip=m, en over de felve welke de ant„ woordens zig aan een ordre vande nagap=s president schap (reegering:) refereeren bij de welke hij gelast Wierd, deese meerdere belasting te moeten goeddoen: Deese verdoedigers seggen verders dat ze onmoge„ lijk gemelde uijttreksel tot een genoeg saam bewijs van de wettelijkheijd der ged=te Eijsch kunnen ad„ mitteeren, nog dat het niet te denken is, dat voorn: overleedenen C: L: Hagemeister iets tot gebruijk van dat residentschap konde be„ sorgen, zonder een ordre van het opperhoofd, dier plaats, en onder wiens ordre hij was, nog kan.
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one cannot suppose, in case such an additional expense was incurred, other than that the said chief would have seen to it that he had made it good again before his departure, and would not have had to leave it, for his own safety, to the presidency of Nagapatnam to make a demand for it. Therefore it is evident that these items could not have been purchased except with the direction and approval of the aforementioned chief, who consequently is liable for the said additional expenses, if such an additional expense was incurred, and not the estate of the aforementioned deceased C. L. Hagemeister; especially because the said blockade of that place arose from an action which the said C. L. Hagemeister did not approve, for which the chief declared to him that he would not be responsible for the bad consequences, as further appears by a certificate given by the said chief to the aforementioned deceased C. L. Hagemeister, which lies ready, in case of demand, to be produced to this Honorable Council; so that it clearly, plainly, and demonstrably appears that the aforementioned deceased C. L. Hagemeister is not guilty nor responsible for the damages suffered during the encirclement of that place, which these defenders do not doubt will likewise be seen as such by this impartial Honorable Council. Concerning the item of the shortage found of 7501½ lb. of Surat cotton, these defenders maintain that this arose during the blockade of that residency, and cannot admit the respondents' assertion that it is merely an imaginary method of calculation, but that it essentially arose from its exposure on the walls and batteries as previously narrated, just as also the proceedings in the handover of the equipment were not only signed by the successor, but this took place in the presence of of commissioners, or two of the Company's servants who were in that place at the time of the blockade, and who signed the said proceedings, and thus gave account in the aforementioned manner. These defenders are greatly surprised that the respondents have passed over so momentous a matter in such silence, and which they humbly presume will not escape the notice of this Honorable Council. These defenders are greatly surprised at the respondents' reasoning concerning the shortage of the aforementioned cotton, which absurdity is sufficiently apparent, for they say, if the shortage of the aforementioned cotton through its exposure on the ramparts and batteries was truly the case, it must have been the deceased's unavoidable duty to bring this to the attention of the gentlemen of that place after the blockade was over, and he ought not to have left so important a matter until the time he was ordered to hand over the goods to his successor; how untenable is this accusation, for was it to be expected, either from this deceased or from any other person, to be able to detect something that is so little apparent. These defenders most humbly request the judgment of this Honorable Council whether it is comprehensible to any person that in so large a quantity as one hundred eighty thousand eight hundred twenty-one pounds of cotton, a discovery could be made of so small a quantity as 7501½ lb. of cotton; or that it could have been noticed, either by the deceased or by any other person whatsoever, shortly after the blockade was over, which must have been the case in order thereby to induce the deceased C. L. Hagemeister to make this shortage known to the gentlemen of that place. Concerning the item of 111319 7/16 lb. of damaged cotton, these defenders say that the respondents' sentiments have not the slightest connection with the items which they claim to charge to the estate of the deceased C. L. Hagemeister with the aforementioned damaged cotton, and these defenders likewise admit that no demand was ever made for it, but these defenders can in no way allow that the respondents can make the slightest just claim or demand of satisfaction upon the aforementioned deceased's estate for 135430 lb. of damaged cotton, since these defenders can prove, and do not doubt in the least, to the satisfaction of this Honorable Council at the required time, that upon the delivery of the aforementioned goods to his successor no such amount of cotton appears on his balance. These defenders are greatly astonished at this inexcusable demand of the respondents with respect to the aforementioned 135430 lb. of damaged cotton, and at the respondents' supposed assertions concerning the said damaged cotton, as if it were damaged by the neglect and bad management of the said deceased. Concerning the last item, whereby the respondents continue to persist in the demand from the deceased's estate of a third part of the outstanding debts, in
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546 kan men niet veronderstellen, dat insien eene zodanige meerder belasting gedaan was, dan dat gedagte opperhoofd gezorgd soude hebben dat hij hott weder goed gedaan hadde voor sijn vertrek, en het niet (:voor zijn eyge veijligheijd:/ aan het presidentschap van nagap=n om een eijsch daar van te doen moeste gelaaten hebben Dierhalven is 't blijkbaar dat deese ar„ ticulen niet gekogt konde worden als met de Directie en approbatie van voorm: opperhoofd en den welken gevolglijk voor gedagte meerdere belastingen aanspreekelijk is, indien zoo een meer„ dere belasting gedaan was, en niet de nalaten„ schap van den voorn: overleedenen C:L: Hlage„ meester; voornamentlijk dewyjl gedagte blokkee„ ring van die plaats uijt eene behandeling voort„ kwam, die ged: C: L: Hagem: niet approbeerde, waar voor hem den opperh: verklaarden dat hij voor de quaade gevolgen niet verantwoordelijk soude sijn, als broeder blijkt bij een gesgeven Certificaat door g' Jagt opperh: aan voorn: overt: C: L: Hagemeister Eagemeister welke gereed legd in Cas van eijsch, om aan deesen Honorable raad geproduceerd te wor„ den; zoo dat het klaar duijdelijk en betooglijk blijkt; dat den voorn: overl: C:L: Hagemeister niet schuldig nog verantwoordelijk is, voor de ge„ ledene schadens, bij de omcingeling van die plaats, het welke deese verdeedigers niet twijffelen, dat het so insgelijx door dit onpartijdiese Hon: raad in 't dog zal koomen Aangaande het articul van de te kort be„ vondene 7501½ lb: Curacs Cattoen, Deese vendeedi„ gers houden aan dat sulx bij de blockeering dier residentie is ontstaan, en kunnen de ant„ woorders voorgave niet admitteeren het allee„ nig eene imaginaire methode van bereekening is, maar dat het wesentlijk spruijtende was, uijt des„ selfs te bloot stellen om de muuren en bat„ terijen als bevoorens verhaald is, gelijk meede de verrigtingen in de overgaave vande uijtrustingen niet alleen door den navolger ge„ „teekend- / maar sulx geschied was in presentie van 547 van gecommitteerdens of twee van hun ne sComp:s dienaaren, welke in die plaats in de tijd der blockeering waaren, en hebben gedagte verrig„ tingen geteekend, en hebben dus in voorsz: maniere reekenschap gegeeven, Deeze ver„ deedigers verwonderen sig grootelijx dat de antwoorders zoo stilswijgend over so eene ge„ wigtige zaak overgestapt hebben, en welke 'z nedrig presumeeren de opmerkingen van deesen Hon: raad niet ontslippen zal deese verdeedigers zijn grootelijx verwondert over de landvaring van de antwoord=s weeg:s de minderheijd van voorn: Cattoen, welken ongerijmdheijd genoeg saam blijkbaar swant zzeggen, zode minderheijd van voorn: Cattoen door desselfs te blood stelling op de wallen en batterijen waarlijk 't geval was had het des overleesenens onvermijdelijk werk moe ten weesen om zulx te berde te brengen, naar dat de blotekee„ ring over was, aan de heeren van die plaats, en niet behoorde zo eene voornaame zaak agter te laaten, tot de tijd dat hij geordonneerd wierd, de goederen aan sijn vervanger over te geeven: hoe onbestaan baar is deese beschuldiging niet, want wast te verwagten zo van deesen overleedenen dan wel van van eenig ander persoon, om iets te kunnen openbaaren, dat int geringst in 't oog komt: Deese verdeedigers versoeken op het nedrigste het oordeel van deesen honorable Raad of het bij eenig persoon begrijpelijk is dat op soo eene groote quantiteijt als een hond=t tagentig duijzend agt hond=t een en- twintig ponden Cattoen, eene ontdekking konde ge„ maakt werden van soo eene geringe quantiteijt van 7501½ lb: Cattoen; of dat het konde bespeurd sijn zoo bij den overleedenen als bij eenig ander persoon hoe genaamt, kort nadat de blockeering over was, en welk het geval zouden moeten geweest zijn, om daar door den overl„ C: L: Hagemeisten over te haalen, om deese te kort be„ vinding aan de heeren van die plaats bekend te maa„ ken Aangaande het articel van 111319 7/16 lb: bescha„ digde Cattoen, deese vendeedigers zeggen, dat des ant„ Woorders gevoelens geene de minste Connectie hebben met de articulen die se pretendeeren ten lasten van den overl: C:L: Hagemeister nalatenschap opte brengen met de voorn: beschadigde Cattoen, er deese verdeedigers admitteeren insgelijx dat 'er nooijt 548 nooijt Eenige graag na is gedaan, maar deese verdia„ digers kunnen in generleij Wijse toestaan, dat de antwoorders de minste regte pretentie of te eijsch „van voldoening op voorn: overleedenens nalatenschap maken kunnen, van 135430. lb: beschadigde Cattoen, alsoo deese verdeedigers kunnen bewijsen, en twijffelen geenzints, tot vergenoeging van deesen honorablen raad op den vereijschten tijd dat bij de Leverancie van voorn: goederen aan zijnen ver„ vanger geene sodanige somma van Cattoen op zijne balance te voorschijn komt, deese verdeedigers zijn grootelijx verbaast over deese antwoorders onverschoonelijken Eijsch met betrekking van de voorm: 135430 lb: bescha„ digde Cattoen en van de antwoorders gewaan„ de zeggingen over de ged=te beschadigde Cattoen als of 2 door de verwaarlosing en het quade bestier van gem: overl: beschadigt waaren, Aangaande het laaste articel, waar bij de antwoorders blyven volherden, met den Eijsch uijt des overl: nalatenschap van een derde part der uijtstaande schulden, in
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at the time of the aforesaid deceased's departure from Bimilipatnam. These defendants most humbly understand that the aforesaid claim is indefensible and unlawful, and the plaintiffs have no right to make this claim against the estate of the aforesaid C. L. Hagemeister, and these defendants humbly rely upon the impartial judgment of this honorable court, which, as they humbly understand, would never compel executors to pay funds belonging to orphans under their care for debts that their deceased father never incurred. These defendants request leave to observe to this high court that the plaintiffs' claim is considerably large, and tends to the total ruin of the deceased's orphans. These defendants further request that this honorable court may be pleased to grant them sufficient time to investigate the truth and sincerity of the evidence that will be produced by the plaintiffs, and especially because the claims of the plaintiffs require matters from a place at such a great distance and from a possession that is under their own authority. These defendants request to add yet another circumstance here that greatly affects these defendants, namely that the Dubash of the aforesaid C. L. Hagemeister, who was his servant for many years, now absolutely refuses to come hither to give his deposition, although he was promised that his expenses would be paid by us, notwithstanding that his deceased master had left him a legacy of 50 pagodas in his will, although one of us went as far as Tranquebar with the intention of bringing him to Madras to be examined there; and the reasons that the said Dubash alleged, right in the presence of the Governor and Council of Tranquebar, to decline our request, was that he was greatly afraid to do so, since his entire family and he himself were dependent on the Dutch Company, a sufficient proof that he had nothing to produce to the benefit of the plaintiffs. We request to add one more circumstance, which is that the said deceased on his deathbed declared that he owed nothing to anyone, and moreover foresaw the claim upon his goods that the Company has since made, as this is a customary practice of theirs; but that he hoped to have taken care to prevent such by placing the same into the hands of the English. All of which matters and things these defendants are ready to verify, maintain, and prove in such manner as this honorable Council shall see fit, and request that which they have already previously requested in their aforesaid answer. Agreed, Naucquet de Tan E. E. Clerk The Rejoinder of the Reverend Mr. John Philip Fabricius, Danish Missionary of Vepery, and John Calland of Madras, Merchant, Executors to the Estate of Charles Lewis Hagemeister, deceased, late Junior Merchant in the service of the United East India Company of Holland, defendants, to the Replication of the United East India Company of Holland, by their agent Daniel Bartholomeus Tridter, complainants. These defendants, now and at all times hereafter saving and reserving to themselves all manner of benefit and advantage of exception to the many errors, untruths, imperfections, and insufficiencies in the said Replication contained, saith that all and singular the matters and things in these defendants' answer are certain, true, and sufficient in the Law to be replied unto, and the defendants further saith, as to the first article that the Replicants insist upon charging the Estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister with, is for a pretended overcharge of eight thousand seven hundred and thirty-two florins, eight stivers, and eight pence, which they say arose from the purchase of sundry provisions provided by him for the blockade of the Factory of Bimilipatnam, and concerning which the Replicants refer to an order of the Presidency of Nagapatnam by which he was ordered to refund the said overcharge, these defendants further say that they cannot possibly admit of the said extract for a sufficient proof of the legality of the said demand, nor is it to be imagined that the said deceased Charles Lewis Hagemeister could provide anything for the use of that Factory without an order from the Chief of that settlement, and under whose order he was, nor can it be supposed that if such an overcharge were made but what the said Chief would have taken care to have made him refund it before he left the settlement, and not have left it (for his own safety) to their Presidency at Nagapatnam to make a demand of it; therefore it is evident that those articles could not be purchased but by the direction and approbation of the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, especially as
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in den tijd van voorn: overl:s verlating van bimi„ lip=mn, Deese verdeedigens op het nedrigste be„ grijpen, dat den voorn: eijsch onverdedigbaar en onwettig is, en de antwoorders geen regt hebben deesen eijsch teg:s de nalatenschap van den voorn: C:L: Hagemeester te doen, en deese verdeedigers vertrouwen sig nedrig op het omzijdig oordeel van deesen hon: raad welke so als '2 nedrig begrijpen, nooijd nood sa„ ken soude dat executeuren gelden van wees„ kinderen onder haare sorge zoude heb betalen voor schulden die hunnen overleedenen vader nooijt maakte, deese verdeedigers versoeken aan deesen hoogen raad te mogen doen obe„ serveeren dat des antwoorders Eijsch Considera„ bel groot is, en tot den geheelen ondergang van den overleedenens weeskinderen strekt Deese verdeedigeas versoeken verders dat dee„ sen Hon: raad behage scheppe van hun eene genoegzame tijd toe te staan ter navorssching der waarheijd en opregtigheijd der bewijsen, Welke door de antwoorders geproducheert zullen worden. 549 worden, en voornamentlijk dewijl de Eijsschen van de antwoorders dingen vereijsschen van eene plaats van zoo eenen grooten afstand en van eene besitting die onder haaren tij Eijgen magt is, Deese verdeedigers versoeken hier nog een omstandigheijd bij te mogen voegen „welke „grootelijx deese verdeedigens bevangen dat is dat den Dubach van voorn: C: L: Hagemeister, en die sijn dienaar voor menigte Jaaren was, nu absolut weijgert, herwaards te komen om zijne verklaaring te geeven schoon hem be„ loofd is dat sijne onkosten door ons soude be„ taald worden, niet tegenstaande dat zijn overleedenen meester hem een Legaat in sijn testament van pag: 50: nagelaten hadde, al„ hoewel een van ons zo ver als tranquebaar gegaan is, met die uijtzigte om hem naar madras te krijgen, om aldaar g'examineerd te worden, en de noedens die gem: Dubash voorgaf even in tegenwourdigheijd van den gou„ verneur en raad van tranquebaar om onse be„ georte gearte van de hand te wijsen, was, dat hij gaotelijx bevreeft was zulx te doen, alsoo zijne geheele familie en hij zelfs van de hollandsche Comp: afhangde, Een genoegsaam bewijs dat hij niets ten goede van de antwoorders bij hadde uijttebrengen, wij versoeken nog eene omstandigheijt meerder bij te voegen; welke is, dat gem: overleedenen op zijn doodbed verklaard hij aan niemand Wyser wil „ schuldigt bleef en daaren boven voor seg„ den den Eijsch van sijne goederen, welke de Compt: zedert gedaan heeft, alsoo dit een gewoon gebruijk van haar is; maar dat hij hoop te zorge gedragen te hebben van zulx te ver„ eijdeben, bij het plaatsen van het selven in de handen der engelsen Alle welke saaken en dingen deese verdeedigers gereed sijn te bewaarheden mainctineeren, en bewijsen op wat wijse het deesen honorable Raad goed zal; 550 zal vinden, en versoeken 't geene zij bij haa¬ ren voorn: antwoord al bevoorens versogt hebben Accordeerd Naucquet de Tan EE Clercq 551 The Rejoinder of the Reverend M:r John Philip Fabricius, danish Messionarij of raperij and John Calland of madras Merchant, &e„ cutors to the Estate of Charles Levris Hagemeister deceased late Junior Merchant in the service of the united East Jndia Companij of holland, defendants to the Re„ plication of the united last Jndia companij off holland, bij their agent daniel Bartholmeus Tridter complainants These defedants now and at all times hereat¬ ter saving and Reserving to them selves all manner of benefit and advantage of Exception to the manij Errors untrutho imperfections and insufficiencies in the said Replication contained, soith that all and singular the matters and things in these defendantoans wer are certain true and sufficient in the Law to be replied unto, and the defendants further saith, As to the first Article that the Replijants infist upon charging the Estate of Charles Louis hagemeifter with, is for à Pretendend overcharge off Eightt housand seven hundred and thirty two Florins, Eight stivers, and light Pence, which theij saij arose from the Pur„ chase of Sundrij Provisions provided bij him for the Blockade off the Factorij off Bimilipatnam and concerning which the Replijants refer to an order of the Presidencij of Nagapatam bij which he was orderd to refund the said overcharge, these devendants further saij chat theij can not bossiblij admit of the said Extract for a sufficient proot of the Legalitij of the said demand, Nor is it to be imagined that the said deceased charles levris Hagemeister could Provide anijthing for the use of that Factorij without an order from the chied of that settlement and under whose order He was nor can it be supposed that it such an over„ charge vere made but what the said chiet would have taken care to have made him refundit before He Left the settlement and not have left it (:for his own satetij) to their presidencij at Nagapatam to make a demand of it therefore ito Evident that those articles could not Purchald But bij the direction and Approbation of the said deceased charles zours Hagemerster especiallij as
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As the said blockade of that place derived from a management that the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister did not approve of, the chief therefore declared that he would be answerable for the ill consequences, as will more fully and at large appear by a certificate given by the said chief unto the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, which is ready to be produced unto this Honorable Court when required. Thus, it is clear, plain, and demonstrable that the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister is neither culpable nor accountable for the damages that were sustained by the investment of that place, and these defendants do not doubt that it will appear so in the eyes of this Honorable and impartial Court. As to the item of seventhousand five hundred and one and a half Pounds of Surat cotton being deficient, these defendants still insist on its arising from the blockade of that factory and cannot admit the replyants' assertion that it is only an imaginary method of accounting for it, but rather that it actually arose from its being exposed upon the walls and batteries, as previously stated. Since the transaction of delivering over the stores has not only been signed by the successor, but also performed in the presence of a committee of two of their own Company's servants who were at that place at the time of the blockade, have signed the said transactions, and have accounted for it in the said manner, these defendants are greatly surprised that the replyants have tacitly passed over so weighty a matter, which they humbly presume will not escape the notice of this Honorable Court. These defendants are greatly surprised at the assertion of the replyants relating to the deficiency of the said cotton, the absurdity of which is self-evident. For they say that if the deficiency of the said cotton by its being exposed on the walls and batteries had really been the case, it was the deceased's indispensable duty to have made it apparent to the gentlemen of that settlement immediately after the blockade was over, and not to have left so material a matter until the time he was ordered to deliver over the goods to his successor. How inconsistent is this accusation! For could it be expected either from the deceased or any other person to make anything apparent that was not in the least obvious? These defendants therefore most humbly submit to the judgment of this Honorable Court: can it be conceived by any person that, in so large a quantity as onhundred and lighteen Thousand Eight hundred and twentij one pounds of cotton, a discovery could be made of a deficiency as small as the sum of seventhousand five hundred and one and a half Pounds of cotton, or that it could be perceived either by the deceased or any other person whatsoever immediately after the blockade was over—which must have been the case to have brought the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister to a resolution to make that deficiency apparent to the gentlemen of that settlement? As to the item of one hundred and Cleven thousand three hundred and nineteen Pounds and Fisteensifteenth of a Pound of damaged cotton, these defendants admit the replyants' assertion that it has no connection whatsoever with the item with which the replyants claim to charge the estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister on account of the said damaged cotton; and these defendants also admit that no demand has ever been made for it. But these defendants can by no means admit that the replyants have any just pretensions to demand from the said deceased's estate satisfaction for one hundred and Chirtij five thousand four hundred and thirtij Pounds of damaged cotton, as these defendants can prove—and do not doubt they will do so to the satisfaction of this Honorable Court in due time—that at the time of delivering over the said stores to his successor, no such amount of cotton appeared on his balance sheet. These defendants are greatly astonished at the replyants' unjustifiable demand relating to the said one hundred and thirtij Vivethbus and Fourhundred and thirtij Pounds of damaged cotton, and at all that the replyants have presumed to say regarding the said cotton having been damaged through the negligence and mismanagement of the said deceased. As to the last item, wherein the replyants still persist in demanding from the deceased's estate a third part of the outstanding debts due to the Dutch Company at the time of the deceased leaving Bimilipatam, these defendants most humbly conceive that the said demand is unwarrantable and unlawful, and that the replyants have no right to make this demand against the estate of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister. These defendants most humbly rely on the impartial and unbiased judgment of this Honorable Court, which, as they humbly conceive, will never oblige the executors to pay money belonging to the orphans under their care for debts that their deceased father never contracted. These defendants further beg leave to observe to this Honorable Court that the replyants' demands are very considerable and tend to the complete ruin of the deceased's orphans. These defendants further pray that this Honorable Court will be pleased to allow them sufficient time to inquire into the truth and integrity of the proofs that shall be produced by the replyants, especially since the demands of the replyants concern matters of a place at so great a distance and of a settlement under their own authority. These defendants beg leave to add a circumstance that greatly affects these defendants, which is that the dubash of the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister and [illegible]
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552 as the said Blockade of that place derised from a management that the said deceased charled Lou„ is Hagemeister did not approve of therefore the chief declared that he would be answerabel for the ill consequences as will more fullij and at large appear bij â Certificate given bij the said chief unto the said deceased char¬ les Louis Hagemeister and which is readij to be Produced unto this Hon=te. Court, ws hen required so that it is clear plain and de„ monstrable that the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister is not culp able nor accountable for the damages that were sus¬ tained bij the Investment of that Place, and those de Vedants doubt not but it will appear so in the Eije of this Honse. and impartiae Court. As to the article of seventhousand five hundred and one and a half Pounds of surat catton being de¬ ficient these defendants do still insitt om itsarising upon the blockade of that Factorij and can not admit of the Replijants asserting it lo be onlij an imaginarij method o accounting for it Butthat it actuallij arose from its being exposed upon the walls and Batteries as betore recited as the the Transaction of the delivering over the stores hus not onlij been signed bij the successor, But alsoo performed in the presence of a committee of two of their own companijs servants, who was in chat place at the time of the Blockade and have signed to the said trans actions and have accunted for it; in the said manner these defendants are greatlij surprized chatthe Replyants have tacitlij passed over so weightij a matter and which theij hum„ blij presume will not Escape the Notice of this Hondle. Court These defendants ave greatlij surprised at the as¬ sertion of the Replij anto relating to the difficiencij of the said Catton, and the absurditij of which is selfs Endent for theij saij it the deficiencij of the said Colton bij its being Exposed on the walls and Batteries reallij had been the case, it was the acceaseds indispensible business to have made it appear immediatelij after the Blocka de was over to the genelemen of thot settlement and not have lest so material a matter to the time that he was ordered to deliver over the goods to his successor, how inconsistent is this ac„ culation, for could it be Expected either from the deceased or anij Person Else to make anijthing 553 anijthing appear that was not in the least obrious, these defendants therevore most humblij leavas to the Judgement of this honsre. Court that can it beconceived bij anij person that in so large a quantitij as onhundred and lighteen Thousand Eight hundred and twentij one pounds of catton, that a discoverij could be made of a deficieneij so small as the sum of seventhou„ and five hundred and one and a half Pounds of Cotton, or that it could be Perceivable either bij the deceased or anij other Person whatsoever immediatelij after the Blockade was over and which must have been the case for to have brought the said deceased charlis Levris hagemeister to a Resolution of making that deficiencij appear to the genelement of that Tettlement As to the Article of one hundred and Cleven thou„ sand three hundred and nineteen Pounds and Fisteensifteenth of a Pound of damaged cotton„ these defendants admit of the Replijants asser„ tion that it has no manner of connexcion with the Article that the replijants pretend to charge the Estate of the deceased charled Lou„ is hagemerster with on account of the said dama„ ged Cotton and these detendants also admit that 21 that no demand has ever been made of is but these defendants can bij no means admit that the Replijants an have anij Jast pre„ tensions to demand from the said deceaseds estate satiffaction for one hundred and Chirtij five thousand four hundred and thirtij Pounds of damaged cotton as these detendants can pro„ ve and doubt not but to the sattiffaction of thes Hon=se. court in due time that at the time of the delivering over the said stores to his successor, that nosuch sum of Cotton appea„ red upon his ballance, These defendants are greatlij aftonished at the Replijants unjusti„ tiable demand relating to the said one hun„ dred and thirtij Vivethbus and Fourhundred and thirtij Pounds of damaged cotton, and to all that the Replijants hath presumed to saij about the said cotton having 'b een damaged through the Negligence and ell mana„ gement of the said deceased As to the last Article wherein the Replijants do still Persiff on demanding from the deche„ afads Estate à third part of the ontstanding desle 6 due to the dutch companij at the time of the deceaseds leaving Bimilipatam, these de fen danto 554 dants do most humblij conceive that the said de„ mand is unwarrantable and unlawfull, and that the replijants has no right to make this demand against the Estate of the said charles Louis hagemeister, these defendants most hum„ blij depend on the Jmpartiae and umbiassed Judgement of this hon=le court, which will never oblige, as theij humblij conceive the Executors to paij moneij of the orphans under their care, for debto that their deceased father did never con„ tract, These defendanto further beglave to observe to this hon=le court, that the replijants demands are verij considerable and tend to the intire ruin of the deceaseds or phans, these defendants further Praij that this hon=te. Court will de pleased to indulge them with sufficient time to en„ quire into the trutho and intiguitij of the proofs that schall be produced bij the Replij„ ants, and the more Especiallij so as the demands of the Replijants concernthings of à place at so great a distance, and of a settle„ ment under their own Povser, These defendants beg leave to adda circumstance which greatlij affects these dependants which is that the dubash of the said deceased charles Louis Ragemeister and pro„
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and was his servant of many years, does now refuse absolutely to come either to give his deposition, although his expenses were promised to be defrayed by us, and notwithstanding his deceased master bequeathed him in his last will a legacy of Fifty Pagodas, though one of us went to him as far as Tranquebar on purpose to get him to come to Madras to be examined. And the reasons that the said dubash assigned, even before the governor and council at Tranquebar, for refusing to fulfill our desire was that he was too much afraid to do it because all his family and himself had their dependences upon the said Dutch Company; a very sufficient proof that he could say nothing in behalf of the replicants. We beg leave to add one circumstance more, which is, that the said deceased declared upon his deathbed he owed nobody anything, and moreover foretold the demand which the Company have made since of his effects, as this is an accustomed thing amongst them, but hoped he had taken care to frustrate it by placing it in the hands of the English. All which matters and things these defendants are ready to aver, maintain, and prove as this Honorable Court shall direct, and humbly prays as in and by their said answer they have already prayed. Agreed. Pancquet De Jan First Sworn Clerk No. 24. Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Tuesday, 6 December, Anno 1763. Besides the letter from the Paliacatte chiefs of the 12th of the past month sent hither, the received rejoinder from the testamentary executors, residing at Madraspatnam, of the deceased junior merchant and former Bimilipatnam second, Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, having been translated into Dutch, was read, and it was resolved to reply to it again by way of a quadruplicate; and regarding the 135430 lb. of cotton neglected under the administration of the below-mentioned Hagemeister and thereby spoiled, for which previously, together with the profit of 25 percent that could have been obtained upon sale, 27083 guilders 19 stivers was demanded, to hold themselves content with its purchase price amounting to 1771¼ guilders; as well as, from the merchants' debt, to allow to be credited for Hagemeister's share as much as amounts to his portion in the 8700 pagodas already paid off; and thus, from the initially demanded 20231 guilders 5 stivers 8 pennings, now only to claim 12403 guilders by way of provisional deposit; but on the other hand to demand anew the payment of such 624 rupees in auction proceeds as the sold goods at Bimilipatnam of the interpreter Randaar Letjeme Naraijna and the Company's Brahmin Moehoelistnappa yielded, which, according to the Bimilipatnam officials' letter of the 8th of June last, were indeed received by him, Hagemeister, but were not entered in the books; and furthermore to order the Paliacatte chiefs to have that paper handed over by the clerk Daniel Bartholomeus Truter to the lawyer Palmer at that English place, as well as to have it submitted by him, Truter, to the Court of Justice there, in order to effect a speedy conclusion of that affair, as it had already dragged on far too long and the aforementioned executors seemed only to be trying to prolong it even further. Agreed. Pancquet De Jan First Sworn Clerk No. 25. Quadruplicate, submitted by the bookkeeper Daniel Bartholomeus Truter on behalf of the General Dutch East India Company, and in the name of the Right Honorable the Governor and Council at Nagapatnam, to the Noble Court of Justice of the English Gentlemen at Madraspatnam, in response to the rejoinder submitted to Their Honors by the Reverend John Philip Fabritius of Vepery, Danish missionary, and John Calland of Madras, merchant, as executors of the estate of the deceased Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, in life junior merchant in the service of the aforementioned Dutch East India Company and second of its factory at Bimilipatnam. Noble Sirs, Although it is hoped that the reply submitted to Your Honors will suffice to refute the objection made by the executors named herein regarding the legitimate claim upon the estate of the deceased junior merchant Hagemeister by the Dutch East India Company; as the said executors were also shown therein the invalidity of their position concerning the first article, or that of the amounts brought forward by him, Hagemeister, for the purchase of victuals and other provisions during the blockade of the factory of Bimilipatnam by the prince, namely that four months after the order for the reimbursement of the excess charged for this, in the amount of 8732 guilders 8 stivers and 8 pennings, was received at that factory, he is alleged to have departed from there without having been spoken to on that account; nevertheless, concerning what has been advanced in their rejoinder with respect to this item, it must be taken into consideration that the victuals purchased by him could not possibly have been consumed in such a short time as the aforementioned blockade lasted, so that the surplus, after deduction of the validated 3000 guilders, could be taken back by him, as he was permitted to do; but since nothing of such a remainder was to be found, it is thus clearly evident that they were never purchased, and, without delivery, were charged by him to the Dutch East India Company; and furthermore, the declaration said to have been made to him by his chief, that he would not be responsible for the consequences thereof, can be of no avail, since the Dutch East India Company has no knowledge of this, and much less.
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and was hisservant of manij ijears does now retuse absolutelij to come Either to give his deposition althongh his Expences was promised tobe defraijed bij us, and notwiths tanding his deceased master bequeat hed him in his last will a legacij o Fittij Pagodas, though one of us vsent to him affar as Tranquebar on pur pose to get him to come to Madras to be Ela„ mined, and the reasons that the said dubash assigned, even before the gouvernour and councie at Tranquebar for retusing to fulfill our defire was, that he wras to much afraid to do it because all his Familij and himselt had thier dependences up on the said dutch companij a verij sufficient Proof that he could Paij nothing in behalf of the replijants; we beg leave to add one cir„ cum stance more, which is, that the said de„ ceased declared upon his death bed, He owed no bodij anijthing, and more over foretold the demand which the Companij have made since off his Effects, as this is an accoftumed thing amongst them, but hoped he had taken care to frustiate it, bij blancing it in the hands off the English All which matters and things these defendants ne 555 are readij to aserr maintain and prove as this Honble. Court shall direct and humblij Praijs as in and bij their said answer theij hath al„ readij braijed. Accordeerd Pancquet De Van E G Clercq 556 No 24. noomen in raade van Cormandel tot Nagapatnam Extract uijt de Resolutie ge„ op Dingsdag Den 6. Jber: A=o 1763. Besijden der Palliacatse opperhoofdens schrij„ ƒ vens van den 12. ' der verweeken maand na herw=s gesonden zijnde, het ingekomen weder antwoord van de te madraspatnam weesende testamentaire Executeurs van den overleeden onder Coopman en ge„ weesen Bimilip:s secunde Carel Lodewijk Hage„ meister, wierd het zelve nadat in het neder„ duijtsch overgezet was, geleesen, en beslooten daar op bijwijse van quadruplica weeder te repliceeren en van de ondergemelde Hagemeesters administra„ tie verwaarloosde, en daar door bedurve geraakte 135430: lb: Cattoen waar voor bevoorens met en neevens de winst van 25. pCento, die daar op op bij verkoop behaald hadden konnen wersen, ge„ eijscht zijn ƒ 27083: 19. —. zig te vreesen te houden, met dies inkoops prijs beloopende 1771¼: guld=s, mitsg:s van de schuld der Cooplieden insgelijks voor sijn Hagemeesters aandeel te laaten valideeren, zoo veel als voor sijn portie in de daar op rieds afgelegde 8700. „ pagoosen beloopt, en dus van de eerst g'eijschte ƒ 20231:58:, thans maar ter namptisatie te vorderen ƒ:12403., dog daar en teeg=s op nieuw de betaaling te pretendeeren van sodanige 62:4: ropijen aan vendupenningen, als de verkogte goe„ deren te Bimilipatnam van den tholk Randaar Letjeme Naraijna en 'sComp:s Bramine Moehoe listnappa, hebben afgeworpen gehad dewelke door hem lagemeester volgens der Bimilip=le bediendens schrijvens van den 8.:' Junij Jongstleeden wel oftvangen dog niet bij de boeken ingenoomen waaren, en voorts: de palliacatsa opperhoofden te gelasten dat papier door den schriba Daniel Bartholomeus Truteu aan den Advocaat ter 557 ter dier Engelse plaatse Palmer te doen over„ „handigen, mitsgad=s door hem Truter bij het Collegie der Justitie aldaar, te laaten insteeren, om een spoedige afdoeninge dier affaire, alsoo be„ reeds: meer dan al te lang getrauneert hadde, en door voorm: Executeurs maar scheen ge„ tragt te werden, dezelve nog langer uijtterek„ ken Accordeerd Naucquet De Jan EG Clercq ge„ en, 558 No 25 Quadruplicq, door den Boek„ houder Daniel Bartholomeus Truter van wegens de generaa„ le Nederlandse oostindische Com„ pagnie, en uijt Naame van den WelEdelen Heer Gouverneur en Raad tot Nagapatnam aan den Edelen Raad van Justitie der Heeren engelsen tot Madraspatnam overgegeeven, op het bij haar Edelens ingediend weder antwoord, van den Eerwaarden heer John phi„ lip fabrisius van weperij deensch missionaris, en John Calland van Madral, koop„ „man, als Executeurs der Na„ latenschap van den overleedenen Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, in Leeven geweest zijnde onder¬ Coopman in dienst van voorm: Ne Alhoewel verhoopt werd, dat het aan uw Edelens overgegeeven replicq volstaan sal konnen ter refuteering van de in deesen genoemden executeurs gemaakte aanmerking, over en wegens de wettige pretentie op den koedel van den overleeden onder Coop„ man hagemeister, bij de Nederlandsche oostin„ dische Compagnie; gelijk gemelde Executeurs daar bij ook aangetoond is geworden, het verval hunner posctie nopens het eerste artikel, of dat der door hem hagemeister op gebragte bedragen, tot den in„ koop van victualien en verdere voorraad, bij de gesaane blocquade van 't Comptoir bimilipatnam, door den prins, Namentlijk dat na vier maanden dat de ordre ter vergoedinge van 't tevveel daar voor gestelde ten bedragen van 8732. guldens 8. stuijvers, en oppenning Edele Heeren Nederlandsche Oostindische Comp: en tweede van derzelver Comptoir te Bimilipatnam 559 op dat Comptoir ontfangen was, eerst van daar zoude zijn vertrokken, zonder dat dierwegens waare aan„ gesproken, zoo zal al egter ten belange van het bij denzelver weeder antwoord geavanceerde ten op„ „zigte deezer past, in aanmerkinge dienen te koomen, dat hij dezelve victualien ingekogt, en die in zodanigen korten tijd als voorm: bloc„ queering: geduurt heeft, onmogelijk hebbende konnen verteerd werden, dus door hem het over„ schot na aftrek der gevalideerde 3000. guldens, weeder na zig konde neemen, zoo als hem zulx ge„ permitteert was, dog dewijl niets van zoodani„ gen restant te vinden geweest is, het dus klaar blijkt dat nooijt ingekogt geweest, en buijten Leverantie door hem de Nederlandse oost„ indische Comp: op reacquening gesteld is, mitsga„ ders niets baten kan de verklaaring die zijn opper„ hoofd hem zoude hebben gedaan, dat voor de ge„ volgen daar van niet verandwoordelijk zijn zoude, alsoo daar van niets bij de Nederlandse oostindische Compagnie bewust zij, en veel minder Comp: toir
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unless a certificate thereof had been handed to him by the said chief. The case is precisely the same with the deficit of 7501½ lb of Courats cotton mentioned in the second article, at a cost of 2815 guldens, 8 stuijvers, 8 penningen; for if, according to the assertion of the executors in their counter-plea, neither the deceased Hagemeister nor any other person could reveal anything that was not in the least apparent to the eye, and deduce from this that it would be incomprehensible that out of such a large quantity of one hundred eighty thousand eight hundred and twenty-one pounds of cotton, a discovery could be made of so small a quantity as 7501½ lb, then it is even more incomprehensible how he, Hagemeister, upon handing over his transfer to his successor, reported that latter number as being deficient or short. And since the maxims of the Dutch East India Company entail that anyone, whoever he may be, must upon the transfer of his administration pay for all deficiencies, and this is not only fair, but practiced throughout the entire world; this shortage, as well as the compensation for the provisions purchased but not delivered mentioned in the first article, etc., remains the responsibility of Hagemeister, to be satisfied and compensated out of his estate to the Dutch East India Company. As to the 19 1/16 pounds of cotton cited in the third article of the executors' counter-plea, it having been fully demonstrated in the reply previously submitted to Your Honors that it has no relation to the 135430 lb of that yarn neglected under his administration and thereby damaged, which was handed over by the repeatedly mentioned Hagemeister upon his transfer, and regarding which the executors in their counter-plea merely state that they would prove that such a quantity of cotton did not appear on Hagemeister's balance sheet; in that regard it is trusted that the books of the Dutch East India Company will find more credence and acceptance with Your Honors than such an unsigned scrap or draft paper left behind by him, Hagemeister, upon which he could indeed have set down whatever he wished. However, since 27083 guldens and 19 stuijvers were claimed for this, together with the profit of 25 percent that could have been obtained thereon upon sale, the Dutch East India Company, in order to demonstrate how fair it is in its dealings, will content itself with the loss thereon calculated at the purchase price, amounting to 1775 guldens and 5 stuijvers. And as is cited in the fourth article of the more often mentioned reply, that the third part of the merchants' arrears, amounting to 20231 guldens, 5 stuijvers, and 8 penningen, for which the repeatedly mentioned Hagemeister, having accepted the sureties provided for it together with his chief, is thus also liable, was not charged to him to be paid, but rather to be deposited into the Company's treasury until such time as that debt is satisfied by the said merchants, of which there would still seem to be every likelihood; so it is now also made known hereby that the amount since received on that entire debt stands at 8700 pagodas, and that consequently for Hagemeister's share only 12403 guldens must still be deposited, which however, when the full debt is received, will be paid out again as stated, for which there still remains every hope. And therefore one need not, as the executors would like to pretend, be afraid that the Dubash or servant of Hagemeister would testify nothing in favor of the Honorable Dutch East India Company, nor take his refusal to give testimony as evidence to its detriment, any more than that the deceased is said to have declared upon his deathbed that he owed nothing to anyone, and to have sought this claim upon his goods under a sinister pretext that such was a common practice of the Dutch East India Company, against which he hoped to have taken care to foil it by placing the same into the hands of the English nation. Since the repeatedly mentioned Dutch Company has nothing to do with the said servant, but rather with the deceased Hagemeister, who, if he made such statements, can also rightly be considered to have been fully conscious of the fraud committed by him against the said Company, for which reason, had he remained alive, he could with good cause have been reclaimed as a deserter of the Honorable Company. And in order to convince the same regarding his pretended honesty, Your Honors are requested to reflect upon the accompanying extract of the Bimilipatnam letter of 8 June of this year, whereby it becomes evident that he also took 663¾ rupees in auction proceeds for sold goods of the repeatedly mentioned Company; and for that reason, the Coromandel government, persisting in their former claim and in what has been cited at length herein, request that Your Honors will still be pleased to condemn the executors of Hagemeister's estate to the handover of his entire estate, or else to the payment of that which lawfully belongs to the Dutch East India Company from it; as well as in the settlement of the aforementioned 663¾ rupees taken by him in an unlawful manner. Namquet De Jan Agreed G Clercq
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minder dat hem daar van een Certificaat door gezegd opperhoofd, ter hand gesteld zoude weesen, Even en indiervoegen is het geleegen met de bij het tweede Artikel vermelde te kort bevondene 7501½. lb: Courats Cattoen, ten kosten van 2815. guldens 8. stuijvers 8. penningen, want ingevalle volgens der Executeurs stelling bij hun weeder antwoord zoo wel den overleeden Hagemeister of eenig ander persoon niets konde openbaaren, dat in't ge„ ringste niet in't oogquam, en daar uijt op„ maaken, het onbegrijpelijk zoude weesen dat op zoo een groote quantiteijt van een Hondert taggentigh duijzend agt hondert een en twintig panden Cattoen, eene ontdecking konde gemakt werden van zoo een geringe quantiteijt van 7501½. lb: zoo is het dan nog onbegrijpelijken, hoedanig hij hagemeister dat Laastgenoemde getal, bij de overgave zijner transport aan desselfs vervanger, als te kort of te min heeft overge„ geeven en dewijl het de maximen der Neder„ landse oostindische Compagnie meede brengt, dat 556 dat iemant wie het ook sij, bij de overgave zijner ad„ ministratie al het te kort koomende moet be„ taalen, en zulx ook niet alleen billijk, maar door de de Gantsche weerald gepracticeert werd; zoo blijft deese minderheijd zoo wel, als de vergoeding der bij 't eerste articel vermelde ingekogte, dog niet geleeverde victualier ensz:, voor zijn hage„ metsters verantwoordinge ten eijnde uijt zijn nalatenschap aan de Nederlandse oostindi„ sche Compagnie voldaan en vergoed te werden; Dat bij het derde artikel van het weder ant„ woord der Executeur aangehaalde 19 1/16 ponden Cattoen bij het bevoorens aan uwel Edelens overgelee„ verd replicq ten vollen aangetoond zijnde, geene be„ trekking te hebben met de door meermelden nage„ meister bij zijn transport overgegeevene onder zijn administratie verwaarloofde en daar door beduwen ge„ raakte 135430. lb: van dat gespin, en waar op de Executeurs bij hun weeder antwoord eenlijk koomen te zeggen dat zouden bewijsen sodanigen quan„ titeijt van Cattoen op zijn hogemeesters be„ lance lance niet ten voorschijn quam; daaromtren werd vertrouwt dat de boeken der Nederlandse oost„ indisosie Compagnie bij uwEdelens meer geloof en ingang vinden zullen dan diergelijk een onge„ teekend nagebleeven klad of minut papier van hem nagemeister, op het welke immers heeft konnen ter nederstellen wat wilde; dog ver„ mits daar voor met en beneevens de winst van 25. percento, die daar op bij verkoop behaald hadde konnen werden, g'eyscht zijn 27083. gul„ dens, en 19: stuijvers, zoo sal de Nederlandse oostindesche Comp:, om aantethoonen, (hoe hillijk in der zelver behandeling is, zig te vreden houden„ met het verloorene daarop teegen den in„ koopsprijs gereekend, beloopende nog 1775 guldens en 5. stuijvers En gelijk als bij het vierde artikel van meer gewaagt replicq aangehaald staat, dat het derde gedeelte der Cooplieden agterstal, uijt„ makende 20231. guldens 5. stuijvers en 8. penningen waar voor meermelde Hagemeester als 561 als de daarvoor gestelde borgen met zijn opperhoofd aangenomen hebbende, dus ook aansprekelijk is, hem niet ten laste gebragt werden, om te betaalen maar wel om in sComp:s Cassa te namptiseeren, tot lijs en wijlen die schuld door gemelde marchi„ andeers voldaan is, en daar toe nog wel apparen„ tie zijn zoude; soo werd thans bij deesen ook het see„ dert ingekome op die geheele schuld ten beloope van 8700. pagoosen mede bekent gesteld, en dat dus voor Hagemeesters aandeel nog maar genamptiseert moet werden 12403. gul„ dens, die egter wanneer de vollen schuld in„ komt, als gesegt weeder zullen werden uijtge„ waartoe ook nog al hoop overblijft, en keert; daarom behoeft men niet, soo als de Executeurs wel willen voorgeren, bevreest te weesen dat den Dubash of dienaar van hagemeister niets ten goede van de E: Nederlandse oostin„ dische Compagnie zoude getuijgen, en soo min desselfs weijgering tot het geeven van getuijgenis, voor een bewijs ten nadeele derzelve neemen, als dat n dat den overleeden bij zijn afsterven zoude ver„ klaart hebben, aan niemand iets schuldig te weesen, en deese pretentie op zijn goederen ver„ zogt te hebben, onder een sinister voorgeeven„ zulx een gewoon gebruijk der nederlandse oostin„ desche Comp: was, en waar voor hij hoopte zorge te hebben gedragen, van zulx te verijdelen, door het plaatsen van het zelve in handen den Engelsen Natie; alzoo meerm. Nederlandse Com„ pagnie met gedagten dienaar niets te doen heeft, maar wel met den overleeden hoge „meister, die, wanneer sulke uijttinge ge„ „daan heeft, ook met regt aangemerkt kan werden van de fraude door hem aan gemelde Comp: gedaan, ten vollen overtuijgt geweest te zijn, waarom ook bij aldien in leeven gebleeven was, met goed fundament als een verla„ ter van d'E: Comp: soude hebben gereclameert konnen werden. En om den zelven, weegens zijn voorgewende eerlijkheijd te overtuijgen, wer„ den uEdelens verzogt, te reflecteeren op 562 op het neevens gaande Extract bimilipatnamse brief van den 8:' Junij deezes Jaars, waar bij komt te Consteeren, dat nog 663¾. ropijen aan vendu„ penningen wegens verkogte goederen, van meerge„ repte Compagnie heeft meede genoomen; en uijt dien hoofde de Chormandelse regeering bij hunne voorigen Eijsch en 't indeesen Largs Geciteerde blijvende persistoeren, verzoeken uw Edelens de executeurs van hagemeesters boedel als nog gelieven te Con„ demneeren tot de overgaave van desselfs gantsche Nalatenschap, dan wel in de betaaling van het geene de Nederlandse oostindische Compagnie daar uijt geregtelijk Competeerd; mitsgaders ook in de voldoening van voormelde door hem op eene onwettige wijse meede genoomene 663¾. Kopijen Namquet De Jan Accordeerd G Clercq
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563 Remarks on the case of the East India Company of Holland against the Reverend Mr. John Philip Fabricius and Mr. John Calland, executors of the estate of the late Charles Louis Hagemeister. The case now having come to an end, it is necessary that one produce the requisite proofs and evidence to support the charges against the estate of Mr. Hagemeister: 1. The item of ƒ8732. 8. 8. for an overcharge of provisions for the use of the Bimilipatnam garrison. In order to prove this legally, it will be necessary to submit to this Court, under oath, the actual quantity of provisions purchased by him along with the cost thereof, as well as to produce an extract of the resolutions of the Governor and Council of Nagapatnam in this regard, which extract must be certified by one or two sworn witnesses as a true and faithful copy. 2. The item of ƒ2885: 7. 8. for a deficiency of 7501. ½ lb. of cotton; as the executors admit the truth of said deficiency, it is not necessary to provide any proof regarding this matter. However, since the executors state that this deficiency arose because this cotton was placed on the batteries during the siege, if this is untrue, it will be highly necessary to call upon those gentlemen who were in the garrison at that same time, in order to inquire of them under oath whether this is true or untrue, and whether the Honorable Mr. Hagemeister took anything of this after the siege. 3. The item of ƒ27080. 19. -. being for damage to 135030. lb. of cotton; as the executors say that this is an error regarding the number of pounds, it will be necessary to prove, through the testimonies of those who took the inventory thereof, that the quantity charged by the Company is the true quantity, and that it was spoiled through the neglect of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister. As the executors maintain that there are no suitable warehouses at Bimilipatnam to 164 store the aforementioned cotton, it will be necessary to prove to this Court that the Company warehouses there are very convenient for that purpose. And in what manner that spoilage or damage was caused must be proven by attestations, as well as what the real value of the aforementioned cotton was, without 25. percent profit, supposing it to be entirely good and undamaged, and what amount was counted for it. 4. The item of ƒ20231. 5. 8. being for Mr. Hagemeister's share of the Company's outstanding debts upon his departure from Bimilipatnam; it is necessary that it be proven by attestations that such a sum of money was truly outstanding debts for Mr. Hagemeister's share at the aforementioned time, and that since that time 8700 pagodas of that sum have been paid. It must likewise be proven that it is an established custom of the Dutch Company that its servants take one-third of the outstanding debts for their own account and risk whenever they leave any of the Company's settlements. Signed: Archdale Palmer, attorney for the Company J Naucquet De Van Agreed: EG Clercq 565 Remarks in the Cause of the East India Company of Holland against the Rev. John Phillip Fabricius and John Calland, Executors to the Estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister, deceased. The cause being now at issue, it will be necessary to produce the proper proofs and evidence to support the charge against the Estate of Mr. Hagemeister: 1st. The article of ƒ8732. 8. 8. for an overcharge of provisions bought for the use of the garrison of Bimblepatam. In order to prove this, it will be necessary to produce to the Court here, upon oath, what was the real quantity and lawful price of the provisions that were purchased by him, and also to produce an extract from the Company's books at Negapatnam of the resolution of the Governor and Council in this respect, which extract must be attested upon the oath of one or two witnesses to be a true extract and faithfully copied. 2. The article of ƒ2885. 7. 8. for a deficiency of 7501½ lb. of cotton; as the Executors admit of this to be true as to the quantity, there is no occasion to produce any evidence as to that point. But as the Executors say that this deficiency arose by the said cotton being put on the batteries at the time of the siege, if this is not true, it will be highly necessary to call upon the gentlemen that were in the garrison at that time and enquire of them upon their oaths whether this is true or false, and whether Mr. Hagemeister made any mention of this matter after the siege was over. 3. The article of ƒ27080. 19. being for damage of 135030 lb. of cotton; as the Executors say that this is a mistake as to the quantity of pounds, it will be necessary to prove by the testimony of those who took the account of it that the quantity charged by the Company is the true quantity, and that it was damaged by the neglect of the said Hagemeister. As the Executors assert that there are no proper magazines for keeping the said cotton at Bimblipatnam, it will be necessary to prove to the Court that the Company's magazines there are very commodious for that purpose, and in what manner the said spoil or damage has happened. This must be done by the testimony of witnesses. It will also be necessary to prove by such testimony what was the real value of the said cotton, without the 25 per cent profit, supposing it very good and not damaged, and
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563 Aanmerkingen op de zaak van de oost Indise Compt: van holland, tegens den Eerw: Heer John Philip Fabricius, en M=r John Cal, land, Executeuren der nalatenscha van den overleedenen Charles Louis Hagemeister De zaak nu op zijn end gekomen zijnde, is het noodsaakelijk dat men de nodige proeven als bewijsen produceren ter onder„ steuning der lasten der nalatenschap van H„r: Hagemeister — 1. - Het artikel van ƒ8732. 8. 8. op eene meer„ dere belasting van provisien voor 't gebruijk van het Bimilip=ns guarnisoen. Om dit op regtelijk te bewijsen zal het nood„ saakelijk wesen dat men de wesentlijke quantiteijt der provisien door hem gekogt met het kostende van dien beedigd, aan dit Hoff opgegeve als meede dat men dien aangaande, een Extract der Resolutien van den gouverneur en Raad van Nagap=m produceere, welke Extract geattesteerd moet worden, door een of twee b'edigde getuijgen, als eene opregte en geloofwaardige Copij 2. Het artikel van ƒ2885: 7. 8. voor een minder„ heijd van 7501. ½ lb: Cattoen; alsoo de Executeeren No. 26 de. de minderheijd van dien voor de waarheijd admitteeren, zo is het niet nodig dat men Eenige bewijsen dienaangaande geve, maar dewijl de Executeeren zeggen, dat dese min„ derheijd is spruijtende door dat dese cattoenen in den tijd van besig op de batterijen geplaast, waren, Jndien dit onwaar is, zo zal het ten hoogsten noodsaakelijk zijn van sig op die hee„ ren te beroepen die ter zelfden tijd in het guarnisoen waren, om van hun op haar ren Eed te ondersoek, off dit de waar of en waarheijd is, En off D' E: heer Hagemeister hier van naar het beleg, iets grept heeft 3„e Het artikel van ƒ27080. 19. -. zijnde voorschaa„ de van 135030. lb: cattoen alsoo de Executeur zeggen dat dit een abuijs voor het getal der ponden is, zoo zal het noodsaakelijk zijn tewijsen, door de getuijgenissen der genen die den opneem daar van gedaan hebben, dat de quantiteijt bij de compagnie belast deware quantiteijt is en dat het door het versuijm van gesigden Charles Louis Ha¬ gemeester bedurven ware, alsoo de Execu¬ teuren staande houden dat ergeen ge¬ voeglijke pakhuijsen te Bimilipatnam om 164 om voorm: cattoen te bergen, zijn zoo zal 't noodsaakelijk wesen aan dit hoff te bewij„ sen dat de compagnies pakhuijsen aldaar zeer gerieflijk daar voor zijn. En op wat wij„ se dat bederff off schaade veroorsaakt is, dit moet door attestatien beweesen worden, wat de reële waarde van voorm: cattoen zonder 25. prC=t profijt was susponeerende 't selve heel goeden niet beschadigd, en wat montant daar voor geteld is 4. het artikel van ƒ20231. 5. 8. zijnde voor M„r hagemeisters aandeel van de Compag„ nies uijtstaande schulden bij zijn verla„ ting van bimilipatnam, zoo is het nood„ sakelijk dat zulx door attestatien bewesen worde dat er waarlijk eene sodanige som¬ ma geld, voor M„r Hagemeisters aandeel op voorm: tijd, en uijtstaande schulden ware, en dat 't zedert dien tijd 8700 pag: van die somma betaald zijn het moet almede bewesen worden dat het een vast gestelde gewoonte van de Nederland„ sche comp„e is dat hare dienaren voor hare reekening en risico een derde der uijtstaan de schulden nemen, wanneer zij eenige der heijd naar in„ en laast, en der Comp„e bittingen verlaten /:was geteekend/ Archdale Palmer procureur van de Comp„e J Naucquet De Van Accordeerd EG Clercq 565 Remarks in the Cause of the East Jndia Companij of Eottond against the Rev„ John phillip Fabricuis & John calland Executort te De Estale of chartes Louis Hagemeister deceiased The cause buing nowat Issu it well tee neus sary tr produce the proper provss as Credenu suport the Chargeagaind te Estau J. M=r Hagemeister sn. The article of ƒ8732. 8. 8 fnah over charge of proovi sions Bought son the use of the garrison of bemble patam In order te prive this it witt he neussary to pro dul to the court here upon oath what was the real quantity and Lawsull prue Is he provisions that were pun hased hij hem al also te prodece an Extract form the Companys Books ab Nega¬ patnam of the kisatution I the governour and boancis in this Respect, which Extract meest hu attested upon the oath yone or two wit nes„ ses to huatrom Extract and faithsully copued 2. The article of ƒ 2885. 7. 8. -. fora dessecieneij of 7501½ &: of Catton, al the Executors admit of this to te trm as to the quantity theres no occasion to produce any Cerdence as to thal point But as the Executors say that this di„ fficuneg dror se bij the said bottons tuing put en the Batterus at the tome of the suge, of this is kend omp„s is not True it wich he Eigthij Lsany to cattufon the genttem en that were in the garnison at thorz tirne and Enquir of them upon thar oather het en this istruce or fatse and whethen Mr. Hagemuster made any mention of this mat¬ ter after thesuge was over 3. The article of ƒ 27080. 19 tuing for damage of 135030. W: of Catton as the Executor say that this is a Uistake as to the quantity of pounds it witl ter massary to provo by the Testimony of those who Look the auount of it that the quantity charged by the companij is the trme quantity and that it was damagid hij the negliet the said hagemaster as the Exe cutors assert shart theren noproper Maga zence ser keijning the said cotton at Birn blipatnam, It witt he necessarij to prove to the bomt that the bompamp Magazives theuan very bommodirus for that purpose and in whot mannen the said spoil or ramage hasspriet Thio must be done by the Tertimeny J witnesses Hurck also beneushang te from hy such settimony what was the rid patm of the said Catton wit hout the 25 prCent proffit supposing it veny good and not damaged- and
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and what was the amount of money that it sold for. 4th. The article of ƒ 20231. 5. 8. being for Mr. Hagemeister's share of the Company's outstanding debts upon his leaving of Bimlipatam, it is necessary to prove by the testimony of witnesses that there really was such a sum of money of this Mr. Hagemeister's share in outstanding debts at that time, and that 8700 pagodas have been since paid of that sum. It will also be necessary to prove by the testimony of witnesses that it is an indisputable and established custom of the Netherlands Company that their servants do take upon their account and risk a third part of such outstanding debts when they leave any of the Company's settlements. was signed Archdale Palmer Agreed J. Nauquel De Tan First Clerk pon No. 27. Extract from the Resolution adopted in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Friday, the 10th of February, Anno 1764. The aforementioned chiefs of Pulicat, having sent hither, along with their letter of the 20th of December last, the remarks handed over by the English lawyer at Madraspatnam, Mr. Palmer, to the clerk Daniel Bartholomeus Trieter regarding the matter of the lawsuit pending at that English place between the Honorable Company and the executors of the estate of the deceased junior merchant and former second-in-command of Bimlipatnam, Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister; upon re-reading that paper, one came to learn with no small astonishment that with regard to the first article of ƒ 8732. 8. 8., on account of an excess charge for provisions made by the said Hagemeister for the use of the Bimlipatnam garrison, it would be required by that court of justice that the actual purchased quantity, with the cost thereof, should be submitted to them under oath, whereas the same was nonetheless entirely improper and completely unused within the Honorable Company; and which it was resolved to make known to those servants, as well as to send them therewith an extract from the resolution adopted in the Council of Coromandel dated 18 June Anno 1761, whereby the said Hagemeister had been enjoined to make satisfaction thereof, together with two copy memoranda or statements of the provisions purchased by him, all three to be authenticated in proper form by the secretary of this council, with the presentation that since these were credible proofs and would not be made by any judges, but also trusting that the same would likewise not be rejected by the Madraspatnam court of justice, but would be accepted and received as authentic documents proceeding from a credible ministry; and furthermore regarding the second article of ƒ 2885. 7. 8., for a shortage of 7501½ lb of cotton, this assembly could well agree with the opinion of that lawyer that since the executors admit that shortage as the truth, it was therefore not necessary to provide any proof regarding it, but not at all with that lawyer's further proposition, namely: that from this side it had to be proved that the assertion of the executors, consisting of a claim that this shortage arose because the said spun cotton had been placed on the batteries during the blockade of Bimlipatnam by the prince, contained an untruth; maintaining that this, having been brought up and asserted by the executors themselves, ought also to be shown by them to be the truth, and contrary to this merited no belief, since mere assumptions could provide no solid proofs, and this would also be considered as such by the judge; but that concerning the third article of ƒ 27083. 19. —., for damage to 135030 lb of cotton, one had decided here, alongside the dispatched letter dated 10 October of last year transmitting the quadruplicate pursuant to the decree of this board of 6 September prior, for such reasons as were found mentioned in the circumstances thereof, to be satisfied and content with the loss thereon, calculated against the purchase price, still amounting to ƒ 17771. 5. -., and why around that matter no further proof or conviction was deemed necessary regarding that which the executors try to maintain, namely that there had been no suitable warehouses at Bimlipatnam to store that cotton, or whatever else, because with the Honorable Company it had been a constant practice from the beginning, and still was, that administrators remained liable for the decay of goods under their administration if they did not take proper care thereof, or did not give timely notice of the defect to be observed therein and express their apprehension regarding it, and which, not having been done by the repeatedly mentioned Hagemeister, he therefore could not be relieved of his accountability and the compensation to be made, but always remained liable for it; and concerning the fourth or last article, regarding his share in the arrears of the merchants, in the amount of ƒ 26231. 5. 8., that regarding this it had been made known in the aforementioned transmitted quadruplicate how that third part had come onto Hagemeister's account through the acceptance of the sureties provided to them for it, who had subsequently defaulted, as well as that those monies only needed to be deposited by the executors until such time as the full debt should have been collected, at which time they would be paid out again, and that there also still seemed hope of that, since 8700 pagodas had already been collected on the entire debt, so consequently only ƒ 12403 remained to be sequestered for his share, of which nothing more could be validated, and on that account it was then also to be made known to the judge
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566 and what was the ameunt op monij that is sold for 4t. The articele of ƒ 20231. 5. 8. being for M„r. Hagemees ters share of the Companijs ontstanding debts upon his Leaving of Bimblipetam Itesneus„ sau to prove bij the Jestimonij of wit niss is that then waly was such sum of moneij of this Mr Hagemeester shan on mitstandig debis at that Lime and that 8700. pagodas hauw heen since paid of that sum It witt also hu nec¬ cessary to prove hy the jestimonij pritriesses that & is an Indisputable and Established baston of the Nitheerlands Company that their servants do take upont hun account and Risque a third part of such onts tan¬ ding debts whentheij Liaw any of te Companij setthementen /:was geteekend Areldale Talmer Accordeerd J Namquel De Tan EClercq pon No. 27. 567 Extract uijt de Resolutie genoomen in Raade van Cor„ mandel tot Nagapatnam op Vrijdag Den 10:' februarij A:o 1764. Evengemelde Palliacatse opperhoofden, neevens haare Letteren van den 20. ' xber: pass=o na her„ waards gezonden hebbende, de door den engelsen advocaat tot Madraspatnam M=r Palmer; aan den schriba Daniel Bartholomeus Trieter „ter hand: gestelde aanmerkingen, noopens de af„ foire van het te dier Engelse plaatse hangend proces, tusschen dE: Comp: en de Executeurs des boedels, van den overleedenen ondercoopman en geweesen Bimilipatnams secunde. Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister; quam men bij re„ sumptie van dat papier, met geene geringe ver„ wondering te verneemen, dat omtrend het eerste Artikel van ƒ8732. 8. 8. , weegens eene door gesagte Hagemeister meerder gedaane belasting van provisien, voor het gebruijk van het Rt Bimilipatnams Guarnisoen, door due Regt„ bank gerequireerd zoude werden, de weesentlij„ ke ingekogte quantiteijd, met het kostende vandien, b'eedigt aan haar zoude moeten werden opgegeeven, daar het zelve nogthans gantsch onvoegelijk en bij DE: Comp: in't geheel in geen gebruijk was; en het welke, men resol„ veerde, die bediendens te kennen te geeven, mits„ gaders haar daar neevens te laaten toekoomen„ Extract uijt de in raade van Cormandel de dato 18: Junij A=o 1761. genoomene Resolutie waar bij gem: hagemeister dies voldoening was geinjungeerd, neev=s twee Copia Memories of opgaaven, aande door hem gekogte provisien, alle Drie in behoorlijke forma, door den secreta„ ris deeses raadt te autentifeeren, onder te doene voorhoudinge dat dewijl deselve geloofba„ re bewijsen waaren, en door geene regters zouden wersen gemaakt, maar ook vertrouwende de„ zelve bij het Madraspatnamse Collegie van Justitie insgelijks niet verworpen, maar voor Egte stukken, van een geloofbaar Ministerium voortkoomende, zouden g'ac„ cepteert 568 cepteert en aangenoomen wersen, mitsgaders aangaande het tweede Artikel van ƒ 2885. 7. 8. , voor een minderheijd van 7501½. lb: Cattoen, deese vergadering zig met het gevoelen van dien Advocaat, dat aangesien de Executeurs die minderheijd voor de waarheijd admitteeren, daar„ „om niet nodig was, dierwegens eenig bewijs te geeven, welkonde Conformeeren, maar geensints met Tes advocaats verdere stelling, te weeten: dat van deese sijde moeste werden geprobeert, het voorgeeven van de executeurs, bestaande in een zeggen, dat dee„ ze minderheijd spruijtende was, door dien gedagt gespin„ in de tijd der gedaane Blocquade van Bimilipatnam door den prins, op de batterijen geplaast geweest een onwaarheijd behelste; als sustineerende dat dit, door de Executeurs zelvs te berde gebragte en ge„ poseerse, ook door haar behoorde te werden aange„ thoond de waarheijd te weesen, en bij dies Contrarie geen geloof meriteerde; nadien bloote vooronder„ „stellingen, geene vaste preuven konden uijtleveren, en dit door den regter ook dusdanig wel soude werden geconsidereert; maar dat belangende het derde Artikel van ƒ27083. 19. —. , over schade van 135030. lb: lb: Cattoen, men bij hiet van hier, ter sijden het afge„ vairdigd schrijvens gedateerd 10:' 8ber: des voorleeden Jaars overgeschikt quard ruplica ingevolge arrest deeser tafel van den 6. septemb: bevoorens, om sodanige reedenen als daar bij in dies omstande vermeld werden gevonden, beslooten had, zig te vreesen en Con„ tent, te houden, met het verloorene daar op, teegens den inkoops prijs gereekend, beloopende nog ƒ 17771. 5. -. , en waaromme daaromtrend geen verder bewijs of overtuijging van het geene de Executeurs tragten staande te houden, als dat 'er geen gevoeglijke pakhuijsen te Bimilipatnam, om dat Cattoen te bergen, geweest zoude sijn, of wat dies meer was, noodig g'oordeelt wierden wwijl 't bij DE: Comp: een Constante practijk van den be„ ginne aan geweest, en nog was, dat de admi„ nistrateurs rezevabel bleven; voor het bederf der onder haar administratie weesende goederen, bij aldier daar voor geen behoorlijke Zorge droegen„ of van het daar aan te ontwaarene gebrek, bij tijds kennisse gaven, en dierwegens hunne bedug„ ting voortbragten, en 't welk door meerm: Hagemeester niet geschied waesende, hij over„ Zulks. 569 zulks van dies verantwoording en te doene vergoe„ ding niet konde gereleveerd werden; maar daar voor althoos aanspreekelijk bleef: En betreffende het vierde of Laaste artikel, nopens desselfs aan„ deel in den agterstal der Cooplieden, ten bedragen van ƒ26231. 5. 8. , dat dierwegens bij voorm: overgeschikt quadruplicq moete was be„ kers gesteld; hoodanig daar van dat derde ge„ deelte voor Hagemeisters reecquening gekoomen was door het Accepteeren aan de hen daar voor gestelde borgen, welke naderhand in gebreeken gebleeven waaren te voldoen, als meede dat die penningen door de Executeurs maar behoefden te werden ge„ namptiseerd, tot zoo lange de volle schuld zoude weesen ingekoomen, als wanneer weeder stonde uijtgekeerd te werden en dat daar toe ook nog hoope scheen, overmits op den geheelen debet reets 8700: pagoosen waaren ingekoomen, dienvolgende voor sijn aandeel nog maar gesequestreerd moeste werden „konse ƒ 12403:, waar van niets meer „ gevalideert, en uijt dien hoofde dan ook aan den regter t kennen
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to make known, it should be stated that it was a firm and inviolable maxim of the Honorable Company that the debts which the chief and the second of a trading post happened to incur during their administration, and did not settle or take over from other chiefs who had preceded them, they had to guarantee and answer for, or at least consign for as long as it took until the same were liquidated. And although it was in no way doubted that the aforesaid Madraspatnam Judicial Council would be well convinced of the Honorable Company's equitable claim upon the estate of the deceased chief, it was nevertheless resolved to order the Palliacat servants to have all this communicated by the clerk Trieten to the lawyer Palmer, with the announcement that this administration cannot proceed to swear under oath to their claims on that estate, for the above-alleged reasons, nor could the same be properly demanded of them, and likewise also to urge the submission as yet to the judge of the aforementioned quadruplicate, since new facts appeared therein, with the recommendation not to fail to insist upon a speedy settlement of this matter; but so that these servants might have greater clarity regarding the refutation made in this matter against the remarks submitted by the lawyer, it was at the same time decided to send them the copy of the translation thereof transcribed here from English into the Dutch language, in the expectation that a desired end to this might eventually be attained. Agreed. Haucquet de Tan EGClercq Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel No. 28 571 Thursday the 18th of June, Anno 1761. — Subsequently it was deemed proper, in answering the letters from Bimilipatnam, first to repeat the remarks rightfully set down in the missive sent from here under date of the 9th of March last concerning the great stir which the chiefs had made over the fact that the Divan of the young prince Visiaramarasoe, named Wengada Kistnarasoe, had threatened to come down with a large force to surprise the fort there, etc.; since indeed it had turned out by the result that all the difficulties raised in this regard had been settled by the payment of 20000 rupees, and in the meantime they had seen fit not only to detain the Company's ship Neijenburg needlessly for a considerable time, but also to charge such extraordinarily large expenses as if they had actually been incurred for the preservation of that post, and into which belief the servants might perhaps also have brought this administration, had not several items been noted in the account sent over that caught the eye and convinced the assembly of the contrary; such as, among others, the purchase of 600 parras of rice for provisions for the Europeans, Orientals, and coolies, to an amount of ƒ960; item, the provisions demanded and obtained from Jaggernaijkpatnam for ƒ708; over and above the extraordinary dearness of all that was charged, amounting in all to ƒ11732. 8. 8, with which one could easily hold out through an entire siege of 5 to 6 months, not even counting the rations of the soldiers from the ship Neijenburg, notwithstanding that the same had been consumed on that vessel or on board; all of which were matters that by no means commended the chiefs favorably, and on the contrary had compelled the council to allocate to them no more than ƒ3000 of that considerable amount, besides the rice brought into stock and the provisions received from Jaggernaijkpatnam, which they could take for themselves, as it did not appear where the same had ended up, with the express desire of this board that the remaining monies must ipso facto be paid into the Company's treasury, which they would be ordered to comply with without fail. Agreed. J Namquet De Jan EG Clercq
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kennen geeven, diende te werden, het ten vaste en onverbreekelijke maxime bij d'E: Comp was, dat de schulden, die het opperhoofd en den secunde van een Comptoir geduurende haar bestier quamen te maaken, en niet vereevenden of van andere voor haar ge„ weest zijnde opperhoofden overnaamen; daar voor Caveeren en instaan, of ten minsten soo lang Consigneeren moesten, tot dat deselve geliquideert geraakte, En alhoewel men geensints dubiteerde, voornoemde Madraspatnamse Justitieele raad zoude wel overtuijgd sijn, van des E: Comp:s billijke pretentie op den boedel van den overleeden nagemeester zoo resolveerde men Nogthans, dit alles de Palliacatse bediendens te ordonnee„ ren, door den schriba Trieten aan den advocaat Palmer te doen verhousen, met aankundiging deese regeering tot het b'eedigen. derselver eijsschen op die nalatenschap, om voorengeallegeerde reesenen, niet treeden, nog het selve van haar met voeglijkheijd ge„ vergt 570 vergt konde werden, mitsg:s ook te urgeeren op de overgave als nog aan den regter van voormeld quadruplica, vermits daarinne nieuwe feijten voorquamen, met recomman„ datie om niet naar te laaten op een spoedige afdoeninge deeser zaake aantedringen, dog op dat 3e ze bediendens te meerder Ligt van de indee„ sen gedaane weedenlegging der door den advocaat overgegeevene aanmerkingen, zoude konnen hebben, arresteerde men haar teffens te laa„ ten toekoomen de Copia van het alhier daar van overgezette translaat uijt de engelse in de hollandsche zaale, in ver„ wagting men daar van eenseen gewenscht eijnde quam te erlangen Accordeerd Haucquet de Tan EGClercq No. 28 571 Donderdag den 18„e Iunij, A„o 1761. — vervolgens vond men goed in het b'antwoorden der brieven van Bimilipatnam, eerst terepeteeren de bij de van hier gesondene missive sub dato 9„e maart p=o ten regten ter nedergestelde aanmerkingen, weeg=s. den grooten op hed, die de opperhoofden gemaakt hadden, over dat den Duan van den Jongen prins visiaramarasoe in naame Wengada kistnara„ soe, gedreijgd hadde met een groote magt tezul„ een afkomen, om 't fortje aldaar te overrompelen ensz:, alsoo immers bij de uijtkomst gebleeken was, dat alle de dienaangaande geopperde swaa„ righeeden, met het afgeeven van 20000. ropijen, waren afgedaan geworden, en intusschen hadde men konnen goed vinden, niet alleen 's Comp=s schip Neijenburg een geruijmen tijd nodeloos, op en aan tehouden maar ook zulke ongemeene groote ongelden op tebrengen, als off die wesendlijk gedaan waaren, tot behoud van dat Comptoir, en in welk denkleeld de bed„s dese regeering ook mo„ gelijk zouden gebragt hebben ingevalle bij de daar van overgesondene reecq: niet verscheijde articulen bekend stonden die in't oog liepen, en de vergadering van het tegendeel verseekerd en gelijk onder anderen het inkoopen van 600. Parras Rijst tot voorraad van de Europee„ sen, Oosterlingen, en Coelijs, tot een bedraghn van ƒ960. , Jtem de van Jaggernaijk p=m Extract uijt de Resolutie genoomen in Raade van Cormandel g'eijscht op g'eijscht en bekomene victualien voor ƒ708. , buij„ ten en behalven de extraord„s duurte van alle het opgebragte, beloopende in't geheel ƒ11732. 8. 8. waarmeede men een geheele beleegering van 5. â: 6. maanden gemackelijk zoude kunnen uijthouden ongereekend nog het randsoen van de militai„ ren van het schip Neijenburg niet Iegenstaan„ de het selve op dien bodem of aan boord opge„ bragt was geworden, alle het welke zaaken waren, die de opperhoofden geensints ten goe„ den recommandeeren, en in teegendeel den raad genoodsaakt hadden, van dat aanmerkelijk montant haer niet meer toe teleggen dan ƒ 3000. , nev„s de invoorraad gebragte rijst, en de van Jaggernaijkp=m gekreegene provisien die zij na zig zouden konnen neemen, als niet gebleeken weesende waar deselve belend waren, met Expresse begeerte deser tafel, dat de overige Penn: ip sofacto in 's Comp=s Cassa zouden moeten werden betaald, het geen men haar zoude ordonneeren, zonder mancquement temoeten naarkomen. Accordeerd J Namquet De Jan EG Clercq buij„ alle 8. 8.
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572 Account of all such extraordinary expenses as were incurred during the blockade of Bimilipatnam for the period of 28 days by the envoy of the Young Prince, Ibraham Biek, who, having approached as far as the aforesaid village with the men under his command, all subject to the favorable approval of the Right Honorable Lord Lubbert Jan van Eck, Governor and Director of this Coromandel Coast, together with the Honorable Right Venerable Council at Nagapatnam; namely: The purchased provisions for the European officers, deck petty officers, sailors of the ship Neijenburg and the bark De Robijn, who were brought ashore, also all the soldiers, both European and native, also gunners and fusiliers, to wit: 20 cattle beasts at pagodas 5 each, that is pagodas 100.-.-, ƒ 480.-.-. 120 pigs at pagodas 3 each, pagodas 360.-.-, ƒ 1728.-.-. 370 goats at pagodas -.16.- each, that is pagodas 246.16.-, ƒ 1184.-.-. 4 lasts of paddy or 2 lasts of rice for feed for the said animals, being 200 parras, the parra at ƒ 1.12.-, that is ƒ 320.-.-. 600 parras of rice for provisions and necessities for the Europeans, natives, and 80 coolies at ƒ 1.12.- the parra, ƒ 960.-.-. 2400 lb of gingelly oil, which was used in the torches on the bastions and elsewhere at 22 lb for ƒ 4.16.-, ƒ 523.12.8. Butter for the use of the officers, etc., at 11 lb, due to the high prices, per ƒ 4.16.-, ƒ 324.3.-. 200 parras of salt, both for use in the food and for salting bacon and meat, the parra at ƒ -.18.-, ƒ 180.-.-. 100 ditto green mung beans, the parra at ƒ 2.4.-, ƒ 220.-.-. 800 jugs of vinegar purchased at Visagapatnam, ƒ 192.-.-. 500 chickens, purchased at high prices at 16 per pagoda, because all inhabitants had fled, that is ƒ 150.-.-. 46 pieces of ordinary raw guinees for making flares, which were set out at night on the bastions and walls, also Carried forward: ƒ 6266.15.8. No 29 Brought forward: ƒ 6266.15.8. also the making of torches at ƒ 7.4.- each, ƒ 331.4.-. 2 leagers of arrack purchased for the crewmen and those who were stationed on shore, at three drams each day, pagodas 60 the leager, that is for 2 ditto pagodas 120 or ƒ 576.-.-. For purchased firewood, ƒ 350.-.-. Ditto coolie wages for bringing fresh water inside the small fort, ƒ 81.-.-. 100 coolies who performed their service day and night inside this fortress, also brought several bales of cotton onto the walls for protection as well as in making the flares, etc., each at ƒ -.8.- per day, that is for 28 days, ƒ 1120.-.-. 30 peons who were sent out on reconnaissance to ascertain how matters were proceeding outside and elsewhere at ƒ 2.8.- per month, ƒ 72.-.-. The same for 30 days batta at ƒ -.2.- per day, that is for the said days, ƒ 90.-.-, ƒ 162.-.-. Paid to the inhabitants whose houses, because they were situated too close to the fort, one was forced to demolish, including the coolie wages and the leveling of the same, ƒ 2089.4.-. To the coolies who made chelinga trips on account of the flight of the chelinga boatmen; thereof: 16 chelingas that brought the deck officers and sailors ashore and back on board 6 ditto that brought the 3-pounder cannon pieces and gun carriages ashore 3 and 2 chelingas that carried out of the warehouses Carried forward: ƒ 10916.8.8 573 8 ditto for bringing ashore 2800 live cartridges, 60 muskets, scrapers, vent picks, 6 rammers, 8 wooden cartridge cases, 4 powder horns, 62 bar shot, 212 round shot, 40 hand grenades, 750 lb of gunpowder in 15 barrels, 261 cartridges with powder in 8 barrels, 100 lb of musket and firelock balls in a barrel, and 6 iron crowbars. 30 chelinga trips at ƒ 1.12.- each, ƒ 48.-.-. Brought forward: ƒ 10976.8.8. 1 hawser for hauling the artillery onto the walls and elsewhere, ƒ 27.12.8. Total: ƒ 11024.8.8. In the Dutch Factory at Bimilipatnam, the last day of February, Anno 1761. Signed: C. L. Hagemeister. Agrees with the original: J. Baucquet De Tan EG Clercq No 30 No 3 574 As we accordingly in all submissiveness notify that the 3 warehouses and copper works at the bleaching grounds of Zagelppalium, Zengel, and Commerpalium are very firmly and strongly built, and also that the 663¾ rupees, which the goods of the interpreter Bandaar Litsjeme Nareijna and the Company's Brahmin Moekoe Kiestnappa yielded at a public auction held here on 25 May 1760, had been received by the then second-in-command and cashier, the now deceased Junior Merchant Carl Lodewijk Hagemeister, in order that they might subsequently be dealt with according to the orders to be received from Your Right Honorable Lordships, but we have only just discovered that the same have not been entered into the books. Agrees with the original: Nauquet de Tan EG Clercq Extract from a letter written by the Bimilipatnam Chiefs to the Coromandel Government at Nagapatnam, under date of 8 June 1763.
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572 Memorie van alle zodanige Extraordinaire ongelden als en zijn gedaan met het Blocqueeren van Bimilipatnam den tijd van 28. dagen, door den afgesand /: van den Jonge Prins:/ Ibraham Biek; dewelke met zijn bij hebbende manschappen, tot aan het dorp voorm: genaderd zijnde, alles op gunstige Approbatie van den wel Edelen Agtb: heer Lubbert Jan van Eck gouverneur en di„ recteur deser Custe Cormandel, benevens den E: E: Agtb: Raad tot Nagapatnam; Namentlijk: d Iage kogte Provisien voor de Europeesen officieren, dek d„os mattroosen van 't schip Neijenburg, en de bark De Robijn, die aan de wal zijn geligt, Jtem alle de militairen zoo Eu„ ropeese, als oostenlingen, Jtem Conanniers, als bosscheetens, teweeten 20. – p„s koebeesten â het p„s pa/o. 5. des. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . P a/o 100. –. – ƒ 480. –. –. „ varkens „ „ „ „ 3. „ - - - - - - - - - - - - „ 120. — 370. — „ boeken- „ „ „ „ —. 16. —. des. . . . . . . . „ 246. 16. – „ 1184. —. —. Lasten Nelij of 2. Lasten Rijst tot voeder voor gemelde beesten zijnde 200. parra, d' parra ƒ 1. 12. —. das. „ 320. –. —. 600. —. paaras Rijst tot voorraad en nootdruft voor de Europiaanen, oofster„ lingen, en 80. Coelijs â ƒ 1. 12. -. de parra. . . . . . - - . . . - „ 960. –. - 2400. —. lb: Sampolij, die men heeft gebruijkt inde thoortsen op de Punten en Elders â 22. lb: p:r ƒ 4. 16. —. „ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . „ 523. 12. 8. Booter voor gebruijk der officieren ensz: â 11. lb: mits de duur„ te per ƒ 4. 16. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . „ 324. 3. —. 200. — pancas zout, zoo tot gebruijk in de kost als 't in zouten van spek en vlees de parra.. . . - . 100. —. d=os Groene cadjong, de Parra - - 800. –. kannen azijn te visagapatnam ingekogt - - - _ - - - - - - - - - „ 192. —. 500. —. p„s hoenders mits de duurte Jngekogt â 16: p:r pag: dewijle alle Jn„ „woonders gevlugt waren des _ _ _ _ _ - - - - - - - - - - „ 150. —. –. 46- stux: guin„s gem: ruw tot het maken van vlambouwen, die bij nagten op de punten en wallen buijten uijtgestooken hebben Jtem - - - -ƒ —. 18. -„ 180. —. 360. –. – „ 1728. -. - - - - - - - - - „ 2. 4. -„ 200. —. — 960. -. „ Transporteere. . . . . . . . . . ƒ 6266. 15. 8. No 29 - 4. — het P:r Transport. . . . . . . . . ƒ 626. 15. 8. 30. — hebben Jtem het maken van Zoortsen â ƒ 7. 4. — ider. . . . . . . . . . „ 331. 4. —. 2. . Leggers Arrak ingekogt voor de scheepelingen en die aan de wal bescheij„ den waaren tot Drie Randcoentjes ider dag pag: 60. de Leg„ ger, des voor 2. d„os pra/o. 120. of - - - - - - - - - - - - — „ 576: —. voor ingekogte brandhout - - - - - - . . . . . . - . . „ 350. —. —. d„o Collijloonen voor het brengen van zoet water binnen het fortje „ 81. —. — 100. –. Coelijs, dewelke binnen deese fortresse haar dienst dog en nacht hebben verrigt, Jtem eenige baalen Cattoen op de wallen, voor beveijli„ ginge hebben gebragt als bij 't maken der rlambouw enâ ider ƒ. -. 8. -. sdaags, des voor 28. dagen.. . . . . . . „ 1120. —. —. „ 30. —. Pions die uijt zijn gesonden geweest op Condschap, om te vernemen hoe de zaken buijten en Elders gingen â ƒ 2:8: -: per maand. . . . . . . ƒ 72. —.— De zelve voor 30. dagen batto â„ ƒ. —. 2. —. sdaags des voor gem: dagen. . . . . . . . . . . . „ 90. — — „ 162. –. –. voldaan aan de Jnwoonders wiens huijsen vermits, al te na aan het fort geleegen men genoodsaakt is geweest afte breeken inclusive der Coelijloo„ nen en het slogten der zilven. . . . . . .. „ 2089. 4. - aan de Coelijs die— Chialengen togten hebben gedaan mits het uijtwijken ken der Chialengeniers; daar van 16. —. Chilengen die de dekofficieren en mattrosen aan de wal hebben gebragt, en weeder naam boord 6 d=o die de 3. ponden stucken Canons, rampaar„ den hebben aan de wal gebragt 3. „ 2. Chialengen die Transporteere. . . . . . . ƒ 10916: 8: 8 „ 0 573 8. —. d„os voor 't aan de wal brengen van 2800. scherp pattroonen, 60. p:s snaphannen krasser, Tepel, 6. aanszetters, 8. houte Cardoes kokers, 4. kruijthoorens, 62. Langscherp, 212. rond„ scherp, 40. handgranaten, 750. lb: kruijt in 15. vaatjes, 261. Cardoesen met kruijt in 8. vaatjes, 100. lb: musquet en roerkogels in een vaatje en 6: stux ijsere koevoeten 30. – Chialengen togten â ƒ 1. 12. ider. . .. 30. —. „n 2. —. Chialengen - - - - - P:r Transport. . . . . . . . . ƒ10976. 8. 8. uijt De Pakhuijsen 1. –. p„s Wieltrosje tot het brengen van 't gescheut op de wallen, en Elders - - . . . - - - - - - - ƒ 27. 12. 8. Somma. . . . . ƒ 1024. 8.8. In Ned:s Compt„r Bimilip=m ult:o feb: A:o 1761. /:was geteekend:/ C: L: Hagemeester. — Accordeerd J Baucquet De Tan . . . „ 48.— EG Clercq 30 No 3 574 Soo als dienvolgende in alle onderdanigheijd notificeeren dat de 3 Pakhuijsen en khopperijen, op de bleekerijen Zagelppalium, zengel en Commerpalium seer hegt en sterk zijn gebouwt, mitsg„s dat de 663¾ kopijen, die 6 de goederen van den tholk Bandaar Litsjeme Nareijna en 'sComp„s bramine moekoe kiestnappa, bij gehouden vendutie op den 25. Meij 1760 alhier hebben opgeworpen, bij den toenmaligen secunde en Cassier den tans aflijvigen ondercoopman Carl Lodewijk Hagemeister waren ontfangen, ten eijnde vervolgens daar meede naar de te bekomene ordre van uwel Ed: agtb: te werden gehandelt, dag eerst hebben ontwaard, deselve bij de boeken niet ingenooneen te sijn Accordeerd Nauquet de Tan Extractuijt een Brief door de Bimili¬ patnamse opperhoofden geschreeven aan de Cormandelse Regeering tot Naga¬ fpatnam sab dato 8 Junij 1763. EG Clercq
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575 No. 31 Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Tuesday the 27th of November anno 1764. With regard to the lawsuit still pending at Madraspatnam between the Honourable Company and the executors of the estate of the deceased junior merchant and former Bimlipatnam second Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, the English advocate Palmer having made known to those officials that the lawsuit was drawing to a close, and that because, instead of the demanded requisite testimonies of the various facts with which that estate found itself charged, only the extracts from the resolutions of this government taken on that subject had been sent to him, it was consequently necessary that he be informed which person would be capable of confirming under oath that the said extracts were written in the secretary's own hand, or that otherwise those papers could not be accepted as authentic by the judge there, it was resolved in that regard to have the said advocate written to by those chiefs that no further disclosure regarding that matter could be given than had already been done, and therefore that they persisted therein as before, under a declaration to be made that the extract sent to him from this government's resolution taken on the 18th of June of the year 1761, together with the two copy memoranda or statement of the provisions purchased by the deceased Hagemeister, were authenticated in the own hand of the secretary of this council, and it was consequently trusted that the same would be viewed and held as credible evidence by everyone and thus also by the judge of the said English place, with the request that he please still strive for a speedy termination of the aforementioned 576 aforementioned lawsuit. Agreed. Naucquet De Jan First Clerk No. 32 577 Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Thursday the 30th of May 1765. Upon the report demanded from there by letters of the 6th of April last concerning the lawsuit at Madraspatnam against the executors of the deceased Bimlipatnam former second, the junior merchant Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, it being made known by the officials that, although they had several times urged the English advocate Palmer since the dispatch of their letter of the 11th of January prior to bring a speedy end to it, it had not pleased him to give any answer thereto before a few days ago, when he communicated to them his appointment as commissary of that nation's troops at Madure etc., and at the same time assured them that the lawsuit was almost at an end, but that he would place the same into the hands of another advocate; and upon their further pressure exerted to arrange that the same be terminated before his departure, obtaining no answer, they had written about this to the gentleman president of the Court over there, who replied to them by letter that it would be very pleasing to him to be able to send any satisfactory answer, but as it was unknown to him who was handling it, he therefore deemed it best to send a capable person thither for an investigation, but that since then, the said Palmer having parted with the papers 578 belonging to the said lawsuit, he had handed them over to a certain Mr. Kaddon, Alderman of the Court, who, upon the requisition to be made for that purpose, would surrender the same and indicate a capable advocate to take his place; it was resolved to order the chiefs not only to confer with the aforementioned Mr. Kaddon regarding this, but also to request that a capable lawyer be substituted in place of the aforementioned Palmer to take up the said dispute and to ensure its termination as soon as possible. Agreed. Naucquet De Jan First Clerk No. 33 579 Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Tuesday the 4th of August 1767. The Pulicat chiefs having transmitted, together with their letters of the 19th of July last, the letter written to those chiefs by the recently appointed new advocate John Sykes in the lawsuit of the Honourable Company against the testamentary executors of the estate of the deceased junior merchant Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, pending before the English Court of Justice at Madraspatnam, containing a request for further disclosure and elucidation concerning some items mentioned in the proceedings, it was, the same having been read, approved and agreed to place that letter into the hands of the members of this meeting, Jan Appengh and Jacob van Tessel, in order that they may examine the positions alleged from this side in the proceedings, and on which the formal statement of claim is founded, as well as to investigate, both from the resolutions of this government and from other papers, whatever could further serve for substantiation and to furnish the same to this Council as soon as possible, in order to assist the advocate therewith, insofar as deemed necessary, for the continuation of the proceedings, which one hoped would thereby be brought to a speedy end. Agreed. Naucquet De Jan First Clerk
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575 No. 31 Lutie genoomen in Raade van Cormandel tot Nagapatnam op Extract uijt de Reso„ Dingsdag Den 27. ' November a„o 1764. Ten opsigte van het te Madraspatnam nog Lizispendent hangent proces tusschen DE: Comp: en de Executeurs des boedels van ten overleeden onderCoopman en geweesen Bimilip:s secunde Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, door den engels advocaat Palmer - /aan die bediendens te kennen gegeeven weesende, dat geding ten eijn„ de Liep, en dat dewijl hem, in steede van de ge„ vorderde boodigde getuijgenissen van de verscheij„ dene feijten, waar meede die nalaatenschap zig belast vond, enkelijk de Extracten uijt dee„ se Regeerings besluijten op dat stuk genoomen, gezonden waaren, het mits dien noodsakelijk was, hij geinformeerd wierse welke persoon in staat zoude sijn met eede te konnen bevesti„ gen gen, dat gedagte Extracten met de eijgen hand van de secretaris geschreeven waaren, of dat anders die papieren door den regter aldaar niet voor ant„ Eenticq aangenoomen konde werden, daar omtrent arresteerde men, genoemden advocaat door die op„ perhoofden te doen aanschrijven men geene verdere opening dier zaake weegen meerder kond geeven, dan gedaan, en dierhalven daar bij als nog bleef persisteeren, onder een te doene betuijging, het hem toegeschikte Extract uijt deese reegerings besluijt op den 18. Junij der Jaars 1761. genoomen, neevens de twee Copia memories of opgaave der zoor den overbeesen Hagemester opgekogte provisie met de eijgen hand van den secretaris der„ zes raads waaren geauthentiseert, en men zien„ volgense vertroude dezelve voor geloofbaare bewijsen bij Een ieder en dus ook bij den Regter van geseg engelse plaatse zoude werden aangesien en gehouden met versoek dat op een spoedige Terminatie van meer „meld 576 meld geding als nog geliefde aantoekingen Accordeerd Naucquet De Jan E Clercq van No. 32 577 op Donderdag Den 30' Meij 1765. Op het van daar bij brieven van den 6:' April Jongstl: gevordert berigt weesend pro„ cos te madraspatnam, teegens de Execu„ teurs van den overleeden Bimilipatnam se geweesen secunde den onderCoopman Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, door de be„ diendens te kennen werdende gegeeven, Gt dat den Engels advocaat Palmer zeed=t het affairdiging haarer schryvens dit„ leen van den 11. ' Januarij bevoorens, verscheijde keeren aangespoord hebbende/, om een spoedig einde daar van te maaken/ het hem niet gelieft hadden, daar op eerder eenig Extract uijt de Resolutie Genoomen in raade van Corman„ del tot Nagapatnam Ant Antwoord te geeven, dan weijnig dagen geleeden, wanneer haar Communiceerde zijn aanstelling als Commissaris dier naties troupen te Madure etc: „regts en teffens verseekerde, dat „ geding bij na ten eijnde liep, dog het selve in handen van een ander advocaat zoude stellen, Mitsgaders op Gaar naderen gedaane aandrang, om voor sijn vertrek te bewerken het selve getermineerd ge„ raakte geen bescheijd erlangnde daar overgeschreeven hadden aan den heer president van 't Court ginter, die haar bij missive repliceerde het hem seer aangenaam zoude weesen eenig satisfac„ toir antwoord te konnen zenden maar wijl hem onbekend was, aan wien de behandeling daar van behoor„ de, dierhalven best oordeelde een be„ quaam persoon ter ondersoek derwaarts te schikken, dog seedert door genoemden Palmer bedeeld zijnde de papieren tot 578 tot gem: goding behoorende aan eenen M=r Kaddon Alderman van 't Court hadde inhandigt, denwelken op het daarom te doen requisit deselve afge„ geeven, en aanwijsing doen soude, van een bequaam advocaat om sijn plaats te bekleeden, wierd beslooten de opperhoofden te beveelen, evengesegde M:r Kaddon dierwegens niet alleen te onderhouden maar ook te versoeken een bequaam regtsgeleerde in steede van meergenoemde Palmer te surrogeeren ter aanvaardiging van gedagt ge„ schil en dies terminatie ten spoedigsten te besorgen Accordeerd Naucquetde Jan EG Clercq No. 33 No:3 579 33 Extract uijt de Resolutie genoomen in raade van Cormandel tot Nagapat„ nam op Dingsdag den 4. ' Augustus 1767. De Pallia Catse opperhoofden nee„ vens derselver letteren van den 19 Julij Jongstl: overgezonden hebbende de brief door den Jongst aangestelden nieuwen Ad„ rocaat John Sijkes, in het proces van dE: Comp: zeeq:s de testamentaire Executeurs van den boedel van den over„ leeden onder Coopman Cairel Lode„ wijk Hagemeister, voor het Engels Justitie hof te Maaraspatnam „aan die hangende „ opperhoofden geschreeven, inhoudende versoek om nadere opening en Elucidatie omtrend eenige posten ten processe processe vermeld, zoo wierd deselve gebee„ zen sijnde goedgevonden en verstaan, die brief de leeden deeser vergadering Jan Appengh en Jacob van Tessel ter handen te stellen, om door deselve nagegaan te werden de positien van 1 deese sijde ten processie geallegeerd, en waar op de Conclusie van Eijsch gefundeert, mitsgaders zoo uijt de resolutie deeser Regeering als andere papieren nategaan, het geen verder tot adstructie zoude konnen dienen en het selven ten spoedigsten aan deesen Raade te suppediteeren, om den Advocaat daarmeede in zoo verre nodig bevonden werd, te ge„ rieven tot voortsetting der pro„ ceduuren die men daar door hoopte tot een spoedige eijnde gebragt te zien= Accordeerd Nanquel de Jan EG Clercq
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586 Honourable Sirs No. 34 Since my last to Your Honours of the 7th of this month I have read through all the papers that have been handed over to me in the lawsuit of the Dutch Company against the gentlemen Fabricius and Calland, except those in the Low Dutch language, and I beg leave to lay before Your Honours what in my opinion is necessary to support the Company's claim on the estate of the deceased Mr. Hagemeister. To maintain the first item of ƒ 8732. 8. 8., I think that not only the order of the Government of Nagapatnam to pay out that amount must be brought forward, but also that one must make it appear to the Court that it was indeed a debit: for notwithstanding it is not to be supposed that the Government of Nagapatnam would have issued such an order without it being a debit, nevertheless that is no actual proof that it was so. With regard to the second item concerning a deficiency of cotton: the executors acknowledge that deficiency, but say that it arose because it was laid upon the ramparts and batteries. To refute this assertion, I think that it is necessary to prove that it was not spent for that purpose, or if it indeed was, that it was not necessary to make use of it to that end. In regard to the 3rd item on account of a loss on cotton that was damaged: the executors acknowledge that some cotton was damaged, but do not say how much, but they say that it was damaged because it was laid on the ramparts of the fort, and in straw huts, etc. To refute this assertion, I think it to be necessary to prove that the cotton was not damaged 581 because it was laid on the ramparts of the fort, or in straw huts, but that it was either stored in good warehouses, or ought to have been stored, and that there were good warehouses that must have been suitable for that use, and consequently that it was damaged entirely through the negligence of the deceased. With regard to the fourth or last item on account of one-third of the outstanding debts upon the departure of the deceased from Bimilipatnam; I think that it is necessary to prove that there were outstanding debts to the alleged amount, and that the deceased Mr. Hagemeister, according to an established rule of the Company, appears to be responsible for such debts to the Company, and also what has been cited with respect to the pledges or sureties. The above is what appears to me, and which I consider necessary to support the Company's claim on the estate of the said Mr. Hagemeister, but which I submit to Your Honours' consideration. Among the papers in this lawsuit, I have found seven in the Low Dutch language, which I suppose might be necessary to be produced as evidence in this case, but since I find no translations of them and do not understand that language, I send them to Your Honours, and I request that Your Honours be pleased to inform me what they contain, and if they are necessary to be shown to the Court in support of the Company's claim, they must be translated, and the translations attached to each of the same, and the person who translates them must confirm the truth of such translation under oath: And if Your Honours have any witnesses to examine to prove what is necessary to support the Company's claim, be pleased to inform me who they are and what they can prove, so that I might submit interrogatories to that end; and to whom an authorization to 582 examine those witnesses must be directed. I find that there is an outcome in this lawsuit, and our rule has approved the examination of witnesses. I have the honour to be, was written beneath, Honourable Sirs, Your Honours' very obedient & very humble servant, was signed, John Sykes, in the margin, Fort St George the 14th of July 1767. Agreed J Naucquet de Jan EG Clercq 583 To the Honble P: g. Dormieux Esqr resident & governor &a of Pulicat & Nicholas de Concheere Esqr 2=de of Council Honble: Sirs Since my last to you of the 7th Instant, I have perused all the Papers that have been delivered to me in the Cause of the Netherlands Company against Messrs Fabricius & Calland, Except those in the Dutch Language, and beg leave to lay before you, what in my opinion is necessary to support the Company's Claim on the Estate of the late Mr Hagemeister, Vizt In order to support the first Charge of Florins 8732. 8. 8. I think, not only the order of the Government of Nagapatnam to Refund that sum ought to be produced, but also that it should be made appear to the Court that it really was an overcharge, for notwithstanding it is not to be supposed that the Government of Nagapatnam would have made such an order without it was an overcharge, yet that is no actual proof that it was so with
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586 Wel Edele Heeren o st. No. 34 Sedert mijnen laasten aan uwEd: van den 7. deeser heb ik alle de papieren doorleesen, die mij zijn overgegeven geweest in het rechtsgeding van de Nederlandsche Comp=e, tegen de heeren fabrucius en Calland, uijtgenomen die in de Nederduijtsche taal, en ik biede verlof voor uwel Ed=s open te leggen na't naar mijn gevoelen noodsaakelijk is om 'sComp=s aanspraak op den staat van den overlede„ nen heer Hagemeester te onderschaagen om het eerste artikel van ƒ 8732. 8. 8. staande te houden, den zik, dat niet alleen de order van de Regeering van Nagap=m om dat bedragen uijt te keeren moet te berde gebragt worden, maar ook dat men aan het Court moet doen blijken dat het daadelijk eene bezwaaring was: want niet tegenstaande het niet te onder„ stellen is dat de Regeering van Nagapatnam zulk zulk eene order zoude afgelangd hebben, zon„ der dat het eene bezwaaring was, echter is dat geen werkelyk bewijs dat het zo was Met betrecking tot het tweede artikel wee„ gens eene minderheijt van Cattoen: de Exchu„ teuren bekennen die minderheijd, maar zeggen dat die ontstaan was door dat het op de wallen en batterijen gelegd wierd. en deese beweering te wederleggen, denk ik dat het noodzaakelijk is te bewijsen dat het daartoe niet besteed was, of zo dat daadelijk was, dat het niet noodsaakelijk was om 'er tot dat eijnde gebruik van te maken Ten aansien van het 3=de artikel weegens op een verlies op kattoen dat bedorven was: de Exetuteuren bekennen dat eenig cattoen bedorven was, maar zeggen niet hoe veel, maar zij zeggen dat het bedorzen was door dat het op de wallen van het fort gelegd wierdt, en in stroohuisen ensz: om deese beweering te we„ derleggen, denk ik het noodzaakelijk te wee„ sen om te bewijzen, dat het Cattoen niet bedor„ ven 581 ren was door dat het op de wallen van het fort gelegd was, of in strooheisen, maar dat het of in goede pakhuijsen was geborgen, of hadt moeten geborgen worden, en dat 'er goede pakhuijs en waren die tot dat gebruijk goed moeten geweest zijn, en gevolgelyk dat 't bedorven was te eenemaal door de nalaatig„ heijd vanden overleedenen. Met opzigt tot het vierde of laaste artikel„ wegens een derde van de uijtstaande schulden op des overleedenens vertrek van bimilip=m; denk ik dat het noodsaakelijk is te bewij„ sen dat er uijtstaande schulden waren, tot het opgetracht beloop, en dat de overledene heer Hagemeester, naar een vastgestelde Regel van de Comp=e, verantwoordelijk schijn te weesen voor zulke schulden aan de comp=e en ook wat aangehaald is ten aansien van de pande of borgen Het boovenstaande is wat mij voorkomt, en welk ik als noodsaakelyk aanmerke om 'sComps eijsch op den staat van gesegden heer heer Hage= k Hagemeester te onderschraagen maar welk ik aan uwEd: overweging onderwerpe. Onder de papieren in dit rechtsgeding, hebel seven gevonden in de Nederduijtsche taal, die ik onderstelle nodig te kunnen weesen om in deese rechtszaak als aanwijsingen bijgebracht te wor„ den, maar dewijl ik 'er geene vertaalingen van vende en die taal niet verstaan, zend ik ze aan uw Ed=s en ik versoeke dat uw Ed=s mij gelieve te bedeelen watse behelsen, en zo ze noodzake, lijk zijn aan het Court vertoond te worden tot onderschraaging van 'sComp=s eijsch, moeten ze overgeset worden, en de Translaaten gevoegd aan elk der zelven, en de persoon dieze vertaald moet de waarheijt van zodanige vertaaling met eede staaren: En zo uwEd=s eenige getuijgen te ondervraagen hebben om te bewijsen wat nodig is om 'sComp=s aanspraak te onderschraagen, ge„ lieven uwEd: mij te bedeelen wie ze zijn en wat zij bewijsen kunnen, op dat ik vraag stucken tot het eijnde zoude kunnen onder„ werpen; en aan wien eene bemachtiging om 582 om die getuijgen te ondervraagen miet gericht worden. Jk vinde dat er uijtkomst is in dit rechts„ geding en onse regel heeft de ondervraaging van getuijgen goedgekeurd Jk heb de Eere te zyn /:onderstond:/ wel Edele Heeren uwer Ed: seer onderd: & zeer ootmoedigen Dienaar /:was geteekend:/ John Sykes /:in margine:/ Fort S=t george den 14. ' Julij 1767. Accordeerd J Naucquet de Jan EG Clercq e 583 To the Honble P: g. Dormieux Esqr resietent V governor &a of Publicate & Nicholas de Concheere Esqr 2=de of Couneil de Honble: Sors Since mij last to you of the 7=te Jnstant, Ihave percised all 2=e Papers that have been deliverd to me in the Cause of the netherlands Company against Mess=s Fabricius & Calland, Except those in the Dutch Language, and begleave to lay before you, what in my opinion is net necessarij to support the Companys Claim on the Estate of the late M. r Hagemeister, Vig=t In order to support the first Charge of Hlorint 8732. 88. 7 think, not only the governor order of the government of Nagapatnam to Refiend that sinnought to be produced, but also that it should be made appear to the Court that it reallij wasare overcharge, for not withstanding it is not to be supposed that the government of Nagapatnam woud have made such an order without it was on overcharge, yjet that is na actual proot that it was so with