Inventory 3260
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With regard to the 2nd article or charge for a deficiency of cotton: The executors confess the deficiency, but say it arose by being put upon the walls and batteries. Now in order to confute this assertion, I think it is necessary to prove that it was not employed in that way, or if it really was, that it was not necessary to make use of it for that purpose. With regard to the 3rd article or charge for a loss upon cotton of its being damaged: The executors confess that some of the cotton was damaged, but do not say how much; but they say that it was damaged by being upon the walls of the fort, and put in straw houses, etc. In order to confute this assertion, I think it is necessary to prove that the cotton was not damaged by being put upon the works or in straw houses, but that it either was or ought to have been put in proper godowns or magazines, and that there were magazines which might have been appropriated to that use, and consequently that it was damaged entirely through the deceased's neglect. With regard to the 4th or last article or charge for a third part of the outstanding debts at the deceased's departure from Bimlipatnam: I think it is necessary to prove that there were debts outstanding to the amount charged, and that by a standing rule of the said Company the deceased Mr. Hagemeister was to be answerable for such debts to the Company, and also what is alleged about the pledges or sureties. The above is what occurs to me, and which I look upon as necessary to support the Company's claim on the estate of the said Mr. Hagemeister, but which I submit to your consideration. Among the papers in this cause I have found seven in the Dutch language, which I suppose may be necessary to be produced as exhibits in this cause, but as I find no translates of them and do not understand that language, I enclose them to you and beg you will inform me what they are; and if they are necessary to be produced to the court in support of the Company's claim, they should be translated, and the translates annexed to each of them. The person who translates them should make oath of the truth of such translations. 10th July 1767. And if you have any witnesses to examine to prove what is necessary to support the Company's claim, please to acquaint me who they are and what they can prove, that I may prepare interrogatories for that purpose, and to whom a commission to examine those witnesses shall be directed. I find that issue is joined in this cause, and one rule has passed to examine witnesses. I have the honor to be, Honorable Sirs, your most obedient and most humble servant. Was signed: Jno Sykes. Fort St. George. Agreed: J. Namquet De Jane, First Clerk. No. 35. 585. Extract from the Resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam, Friday the 2nd of October 1767. Pursuant to the requisition in the resolution of the 4th of August last to the members of this assembly, Jan Appingh and Jacob van Tessel, for the exact examination of the positions in the lawsuit of the Company against the executors of the last will and testament of the late deceased Under-Merchant Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister before the Court of Justice at Madraspatnam, mentioned in the letter of that Council, they having served a report regarding their proceedings therein, in which they amply demonstrated the grounds upon which the claims of the Honorable Company are founded, and by which documents the legality of the Company's pretensions are verified; it was thus resolved to send a copy of that writing to Paliacatta, with orders to the chiefs to submit the allegations of those committee members, insofar as it might still require it, in a concise paper to the advocate John Sykes, citing the necessary arguments and observations that were set down by the aforementioned committee members, specially with respect to the spoilage of the cotton and the damage caused thereby to the Honorable Company. And whereas the demanded provisional payment from the estate of the said Hagemeister of one-third of the increased debts of the Bimlipatnam merchants, through various direct collections from the traders since that time, has not only been reduced to an amount of 12,403 guilders, but also for that amount the present Second of that office, Jan Visscher, was thereafter declared accountable, and it having been paid by him as well as other officials, and the Honorable Company thus being indemnified regarding that article; it was therefore resolved to order the aforementioned Paliacatta officials to make the same known, as well as the waiver of the claimed 20 per cent advance on the cotton, by a legal notice through the said advocate to the Court of Justice, so that the same may thereby be further convinced of the righteousness of the claims of the Honorable Company formed against the said estate, as claiming nothing other than what was lawful; which notification the Council judged all the more necessary because the Court, through the non-production of the quadruplicate of the foregoing, as well as of the new facts and alterations that were posited in that paper to the benefit of the estate of the said Hagemeister, had as yet no knowledge thereof. Consequently, the production of that writing was not unserviceable, or rather the matters contained therein could well take place to be cited in the documents still to be submitted, insofar as it may be necessary, should the advocate judge it necessary and provided the same may not bring about delays in the termination of that affair, observing the order and customary manner of proceeding before that Court; to which end the chiefs should further correspond and confer with the advocate, and it should simultaneously be their endeavor to bring that matter, which already
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will regard to the 2d. article or Charge for a Deficiency ot Cotton: The Executors Confess the De ficienij, buit say it drosa by being put upon the walls & Batteries, now in order to Confute this assertion, 7 think is is necessarij to prove that is was not Employd in that waij, or iet reallyj was, that it was not necessarij to make use of it for that pursiose With regaerd to the 3d. article or Charge for a Loss upon Catton of its being Damagd: The Executors Confes that some of the Cotton was Damagd but do not say how much, but they say that it was Damagd by boing upon the walls of the Fort, & put in straw Houses & a Jn order to Confute this Assertion J. think it is necessary to prove, that the Cotton was not Damagd by being put upon the works, or in straw houles, but that it either was. or ougt to have been put in proper godowns or magarines, & that there were magazines wich might have been appro„ priated to that use, & Consequently that it was Damagd enterely thso the deceaseds regter With negard to the 4th or Last article or Clarg for 584 for a third part of the ontstanding Debts at the Deceaseds Departure from Bimli„ patnam; J think it is necessary to prove that there were Debts ontstanding Lo the d mount Charged, & that by a standing Beele of the said Company the Deceased M=r Hagemeister was to be answera ble for such Debts to the Company, & alsoo what is alledged about the pledges or sureties the above it what accurt to me, & which J. look upon necessary to support de Companys Claim on the Estate of the said M=r Hagemeester, But which which I submit to your Contideration Among the Papers in this Cause I have found leven in the Dutch Language, which 7 suppose may be necessary to be produced as Exhibets in this Cause, but as 7 find no Trans lates of Lhem & da not understand that Language, Jinclose them to you, & beg youll In form me what they are, & if the are necessary to be produced to the Court in support of the Companys Claim, theyshould be Translated, & the Translates annexed to each of them, the person who Translatet them shoud make cath of the Truth of luch Translations, and gle ov 10teh July 1767. and it you have anij witnesses to Examine to prove what it necessary to support the Com„ pangt Claim, please to Acquarnt me uho they are & what they oan prove, that 7 may prepare„ Jnterrogatories for that purpose, & to uhe a Commission to Examine those witnesset Rhale bedirected 7 find that Jssue is Jound in thes Cause, & one Rule has passed to Examine witnesses I have the honor to be Houble:fers Fort St. george Accordeerd J Namquet De Jane your most obedient & most humble servant /:was geteekend/ Jno Sykes E Clercq No. 35 585. Extract uijt de Resolutie Genoomen in raade van Cormandel tot Nagapatnam Vrijdag Den 2:' october 1767. In gevolge het gedemandeerde ter resolu„ tie van den 4:' augustus Jongstl: aan de loeden deeser vergadering Jan Appingh en Jacob van Tessel, ter Exacte naganing van de positien ten processe van de Comp: tegens de Executeurs van het testa„ ment van wijlen den overledene on„ Carel Lodewijk Hage¬ verCoopman meister voor 't Court der Justitie te madraspatnam, broeder bij dat raadslot vermeld, door deselve gediend zijnde, van rapport wegens hunne verrigting daar omtrent, bij het welke zij ampel aantoond, de gronden op de welke de Eijsschen van DE: Comp: of Jan Comp: gefondeerd sijn, en door welke stukken de wettigheijd van 'sComp:s protentien werden geve„ refieerd, zoo wierd verstaan, Copia van dat geschrift naar PalliaCatta te senden; met last aan de opperhoofden, om het ge„ allegueerde door die gecommitteerdens voor soo verre het nog requireeren mogte; bij een beknopt papier aan den advocaat John Sijkens op te geeven met aanhaling van de nodige argumenten en aanmer„ kingen welken door voorsz: gecommitteerde leden ter neder gesteld zijn, specialijk ten opsigte van het bederven van het Casbben, en daar door gecauseerde schade aan d E: Comp: — En dewijl de g'eijschte nampticeering van den boedel van gedagte Hagemeister van het een derde in de vermeerderde schul„ den der Bimilipatnamse Cooplieden door diverse inpalmingen van de hande„ laars direct sedert tot een mon„ tant. 586 tant van ƒ12403. niet alleen verminderd is, maar ook voor dat bedragen daar na den presenten secunde van dat Comptoir Jan visscher, redevabel verklaard, door hem soo wel, als andere bediendens betaald, en omtrent dat articul dus DE: Comp: schadeloos gesteld weesende, zoo is ver„ staan voorm: Palliacatse bediendens te ordonneeren het selve, als ook van den afstand van het gepretendeerd 20. ' pCento advans op het Cattoen, bij een asver„ tissement van regten door genoemde Advo„ Caat aan het Justitie Hoff bekend te 6 doen maken op dat het selve dus nader Geconvinceerd werde van de regtmatigheijd der Eijsschen van d E: Comp: op gedagte boedel g'formeerd, als niets anders, dan het geene wettig was, pre„ tendeerde, en welke bekendmaking den Raad zoo veel te nootzakelijker oor„ deelde, om dat het Court, door de Non. t. nonproduceering van het quadruplicq van het voorenstaande als van de nieuwe feij„ ten, en veranderingen, die ten voordeele van den boedel van gedagte Hagemeister bij dat papier geposeerd zijn, nog geen ken„ nisse hadden gevolgelijk de productie van dat schriftuur als nog, niet ondiens„ tig was, dan wel de daar op vervatte za„ ken, bij de nog intedienen documenten, voor zoo verde het nodig sij aantehaalen, soo den Advocaat zulx nodig oordeelen, en het selve geen traineeringen het ter„ „mineeren dier affaire te weeg brengen mogte, ook wel plaats hebben konde, omtrend de ordre en het manier van pro„ Cedeeren voor dat hof gewoon; en g'ob„ serveerd werdende, ten welken eijnde zij opperhoofden met den Advocaat nader Correspondeeren en Confic¬ soude moeten leeren; en teffens van derselver betrag„ ting moeste zijn, om die saak, die roets
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already for nearly seven years has been pending before that court, to be brought to an end as speedily and equitably as possible. And concerning the requisitions by the lawyer Archidale Palmer, who previously acted in this case, regarding the credibility of the extracts from the resolutions of this assembly sent to him instead of the requested sworn testimonies, and on account of which it was requested by him that the person or the secretary who authenticated them should confirm them under oath, because the Court of Justice was not accustomed to administering justice on other than sworn documents, yet the previous administration here was unwilling to consent to that swearing of an oath, it was approved to make known to the present lawyer that, if it should still be necessary, this assembly would then, owing to the departure of the secretary, grant and send over a certificate confirming that the same person who authenticated the aforementioned extracts and other documents is a lawful and sworn person, and was authorized thereto; thus meriting full faith both in and out of court. Agreed. Nauquet De Jan EClercq No. 76 To the Right Honorable, Severe Sir Pieter Haksteen, Extraordinary Councillor of the Dutch Indies, Governor and Director of this Coast of Coromandel, with the Council thereof, together with the honorable members of the Political Council, Nagapatnam. Right Honorable, Severe Sir and Gentlemen, Your Honors having been pleased, by decision of this board of the 4th of August last, to honor us with the commission to carefully examine the positions upon which the conclusions of the claim are founded, in the Company's lawsuit against the executors of the estate of the late Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, former second-in-command of Bimilipatnam who died at Urpert, pending before the English Court of Justice at Madraspatnam, as well as to investigate both from the resolutions and other papers of this government that which might serve for further substantiation in this regard, we have the honor, serving by this as a respectful report, to note that the positions charged against the deceased by the Company consist of the following, upon which those conclusions were also founded: Firstly, that Hagemeister, on account of excessive charges brought up during the blockade of the factory of Bimilipatnam in the year 1761 by the prince Visiarama Rasoe, must refund to the Company a sum of f8732:8:8. And this, upon the requisition of the former lawyer for the Honorable Company in this proceeding, Archidale Palmer, accompanied by his letter of the 15th of December 1763 sent to the Palliacat clerk Fruten containing remarks, has, as far as was possible for the Honorable Company, been sufficiently verified in law with the following proofs, namely: An extract from the resolutions of this council of the 18th of June 1761, whereby Hagemeister was condemned to the reimbursement of that sum, and two copy memoranda of the provisions purchased by him, from which the charge arises, all authenticated pursuant to the decision of this board of the 10th of February 1764 by the then secretary Haselkamp, and thus irreproachable documents, as proceeding from a credible administration. The first proving the substantial order of this government that Hagemeister must pay that sum, and the two others the exorbitance of the charges, and thus also that it is substantially a payment, consequently satisfying the requisition both of the aforementioned Palmer and of the present lawyer Sykes, their remarks being in agreement with each other; and therefore we take the liberty respectfully to abide by the aforementioned decision of the 10th of February 1764, the more so because regarding this article no more sufficient or further proofs can be produced. Secondly, that the deceased must pay f2885:7:8 on account of 750 1/2 lb of cotton under-accounted for; and since the executors have indeed admitted this deficiency as true, but nevertheless have made the pretext that the same was caused by the fact that during the siege of Bimilipatnam it had lain upon the bulwarks, it was, upon the aforementioned remarks of the lawyer Palmer, which agree with the cited letter delivered to us from the present lawyer Sykes, stating that it was unnecessary to supply any proof regarding that deficiency, but that the untruth of the executors' pretext had to be verified by the Honorable Company, decided by council decree of the 10th of February repeatedly mentioned that the same, having been put forward by the executors, also had to be proven by them, and to the contrary merited no credit, since bare assertions yielded no firm proofs in law; to which we take the liberty to adhere, as we find nothing that can serve for further proof in this respect, making however, with Your Honors' permission, these remarks: That even if the executors could prove that it had substantially lain upon the bulwarks, this condemns the deceased all the more, for that cotton was sent to Bimilipatnam to be sold, but not to be employed according to his discretion for parapets on the bulwarks, for which the executors cannot demonstrate that the deceased was authorized, since this government on the contrary expressed its displeasure thereat
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587 reets bij de seven Jaaren, voor dat hof litil„ pendent geweest is, ten spoedigsten en na de billijkheijd te doen termineeren En omtrend de requisitien door den be„ vorens in deese saak g'ageerd hebbende Advocaat PerChidale Palmer, nopens de Geloofbaarheijd, der hem in steede van de gevorderde b'eedigde getuijgenissen zoe„ geschikte Extracten uijt de Resolutien dee„ ser vergaderinge, en daarom door hem begeerd is, dat de geene of den secreta„ ris die de selve geauthentiseerd heeft met den Eed te bevestigen zoude, de„ wijl het Justitie hof, niet gewoon was, op andere dan b'eedigde stukken regt te rie. doen, dog het voorige Ministeern al„ hier tot die b'eedigtzing niet heeft wie„ len verstaan, vond men goed aan den tegenswoordigen Advocaat bekend te doen maaken, dat indien het nog nodig wesen mogte, deese vergadering dan mits het ver de vertrok van den secretaris een Certificaat Verleenen en overschikken zoude, tot be„ Vestiging dat den selven die de voorm: Extracten en andere documenten ge¬ authentiseerd heeft, een wettig en bee„ digd persoon is, en daar toe geregtigt ge„ weest zijn; dus soo in regten als daar buijten volkoomen geloof meriteer„ Accordeerd Nauquet De Jan EClercq de — 588 No. 76 Aan den welEdelen Gestrengen Heer Pieter Haksteen, Raad Extraordinair van Nederlands India, gouverneur en Direc„ teur deezer Custe Cor„ mandel, met den de Corte van dien, benee„ vers de heeren leeder van den politi„ quen Raad Nagapatnam Wel Edelen Gestrengen Heer, en Heeren wel Ed: gesz: bij besluijt deezer tafiel van den 4.: aug: passato ons hebbende gelieven te honoreeren met de Commissie ter tracte nagaaring van de po„ sitien waar op de Conclusien van eijsch gefundeert zijn, in 't proces van de Comp: teegens de Execu Leurs te teurs des boedels, wijlen den te Urpert over„ „leedenen Bimilipatnams secunde Carel Lode„ wijk Hagemeester voor 't engels Justitie hof te madraspatnam hangende, mitsgaders zoo uijt de resolutien als andere papieren deeser reegeering na te speuren, het geene tot verdere adstrunctie diendwegen zoude konnen dienen, zoo hebben wij d' Eere bij deesen van eerbiedig Rapport dienende, te no„ teeren dat de positien ten laste van den overleeden door de Comp: gedaan in de volgende bestaan, waar op die Conclusien gedan ook gegrondvest zijn Eerstelijk dat Hagemeester wegens te veel op gebragte ongelden geduurende de blocquade van 't Comptoir Rimilipm in den Jaare 1761. door den prins Visiarama Rasoe, aande Comp: restitueeren moet, een somma van ƒ8732:8:8: en 't welk op het requisit van den voorige advocaat voor d' E: Comp: in deese proceduure, Archi„ dale Palmer, bij de nevens zijne missive van den 15. december 1763. aan den Palliacats schriba Fruten gesondene aanmerkingen voor zoo verre voor d' E: Comp: mogelijk, den regten genoegsoende geferivreerd is, met de volgende preuves, als Een extract uijt de resolutien deeses raads van den 18. 589 18. Junij 1761. , waar bij Hagemeister tot de rembour„ feering dien somma gecondemneerd werd, en twee Copia memorien van de door hem ingekogte provi„ sien, waar uijt de belasting voortspruijt, alle ingevolge besluyt deeser tavel van den 10. ' feb: 1764. door den toen„ maligen secretaris Hafelkamp g'authentiseerd, en dus irreprochable stukken, als van een geloofbaar ministerium zoort komende. Bewijsende het eerste de wesentlijke ordre deeser reegeering dat Gagemeister die zom betaalen moet, ende twee ande„ re de Exorbitantie van het opgebragte, en dus ook dat het wesentlijk een betaaling is, gevolgelijk vol„ doende aan 't requizit zoo wel van voorm: Palmer als aan dat van den teegenswoordigen advocaat sijkes als zijnde haare aanmerking met el„ kanderen accordeerende, en dierhalven gebruijken Wij de vrijheijd ons aan voorm: besluijt van den 10. feb: 1764. in eerbied te gedragen, te meer dewijl omtrend dit Articul geen sufficantir nog meerder preuves ge„ produceerd kunnen werden ten tweeden, dat den overl: weg:s te min verantwoorde 750 ½. lb: Cattoen ƒ 2885: 7. 8. betaalen moet, en dewijl de Executeurs deese minderheijd wel voor waarheijd geadmitteer maar egter gepretexteerd hebben, dat het selve ver„ oorsaakt over„ uijt geering Ten oorsaakt was, door dien dat geduurende de beleegeringe van bimilip=n op de bolkerken geleegen hadde, zo is, op de voorm: aanmerkingen van den advocaat Palmer, die accordeerende zijn met de gealliqueerde de tol, beijde aan ons ter handen gestelde brief van den teegenswoordigen advocaat sijkes, dat het onnodig was, weg:s die minderheijd eenig be„ „wijs te suppediteeren maar de onwaarheijd van des execu„ teurs pretext door de E: Comp: geverifieerd moeste werden bij raadslot van den 10. feb: meerm: beslooten, dat het selve als donr de executeurs voortgebragt sijnde, ook door haar beweesen moest werden, en bij 't Contrarie geen geloof meriteerde, alsoo bloste stellingen geen vaste preuven in regten uijtleeverderden en waar aan wij de vrijheijd neemen ons te gedragen, dewijl wij niets vinden dat tot nader bawijs ten deesen opzigte dienen kan, daar bij egter met ver„ lof van uwel Ed: Gest: deese aanmarkingen makende Dat al konde de executeurs ook probeeren dat 't weesent„ „lijk op de bolwerken geleegen hadde, sulks den overl: des te meer Condemneerd wart dat Cattoen is na bimilip:n gesonden om verkogt, maar niet om volg:s zyn willekeur tot borst„ weeringen of de bolwerken g'emplooijeert te werden, waar toe de executeurs niet aanzoonen kunnen dat den overl: gequalifiseerd geweest is, want deese regoe„ ring heeft daar over ter Contrarie haar misnoeger be
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testify, much less that it was necessary to employ such costly goods for that purpose, for entirely different things of lesser value could have been used for it, if it had indeed been truly necessary to place anything on those bulwarks; and supposing that those costly goods were indeed used on the points of the front, it has still not been proved that thereby so many thousands of pounds of the same went missing, and consequently, according to the constant practice of the Honorable Company, that its servants remain accountable for that which they, on an administration entrusted to them, account for too little or allow to spoil through neglect or otherwise, he is absolutely liable for it. Thirdly, that Hagemeister, on account of suffered losses of 25 percent advance on the sold 135430 lb of cotton that was completely neglected during his administration, must pay ƒ 27083: 19. —, though on which account by resolution of this table of 6 September 1763 it was resolved to be content with the purchase cost of ƒ 17771. 5: —, as was also cited in the Honorable Company's quadruplicate. The remarks that Advocate Palmer makes in that regard, and the proofs that he demands in that regard, are identical with those of Sijkes, and refuted by the aforementioned resolution of 10 February 1764, to which we refer, as well as to what is set down in the second article of this report, and the care that administrators must take of the goods entrusted to them; with this addition, however, that the executors cannot prove that Hagemeister ever complained about a shortage of warehouses, which he certainly would have done to prevent his own loss if such had truly been the case, and indeed everyone who knows anything of Bimilipatnam is well aware that there are sufficient and good warehouses there. Fourthly, that Hagemeister must deposit as security for his share in the debts of the merchants, a third part or ƒ 20231: 5: 8, but a part of this having since been collected, and the deceased's share thereby having been reduced to ƒ 12403, this was made known in the aforementioned quadruplicate. However, since this debt, following the resolution taken here of 5 July 1765, by Their High Excellencies by letter of 14 March 1766, was charged for payment to the second commissioner of Bimilipatnam at the time of Appengh and Bloeme, the present secunde Visscher, owing to the decease of the first, the said Bosschaart, after deduction of the ƒ 24000 demonstrated by him, for which the other merchants were erroneously credited, and the rupees 9300. –. or ƒ 11808. –. –. counted into the treasury by Appeng and Bloeme and having served in reduction of those debts, see the account of the said Vischer dated the last of August 1766, without prejudice to his recourse against Appengk and Bloeme aforementioned, without mentioning Hagemeister, as the same has also paid, we therefore consider that the deposit of that sum by the executors of Hagemeister can no longer be urged, because that matter has been liquidated by the payment by Visscher of the missing ƒ 4672. 5. Fifthly, that Hagemeister, according to the resolution of 6 September 1764, must still pay rupees 663¾, being the proceeds of the sold goods of the interpreter and Brahmin that he took with him, as the same were also claimed from him in the quadruplicate pursuant to that resolution, and which was proved by an extract of a Bimilipatnam letter sent to Advocate Palmer with that quadruplicate, notwithstanding the same, to prevent loss to the Company, were also placed to the account of Bronsvelt pursuant to the resolution of 2 June 1764. However, Advocate Palmer, upon the transmission of the quadruplicate to the Pulicat secretary Prieter by letter of 15 December 1763, by which he sent his aforementioned remarks, served notice that the sum could not be demanded then, because, as he says, it was not necessary to hand over the remarks on the rejoinder of the executors, denoting thereby the quadruplicate, because it would cause a great delay in the conclusion of the case, and if it were necessary in due course he would waive the Honorable Company's demand of 25 percent advance on the cotton mentioned in the third article; and such, as far as we can ascertain, has also not occurred, for although the Pulicat chiefs, when the resolutions of this meeting of 10 February 1764 on the remarks of the executors were sent to them, were at the same time instructed
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590 betuijge, veel min dat het Noodsakelijk geweest is, zulke kostbaare goederen daar toe te emploijeeren, want daar kon„ de geheele andere en van mindere inwaarde zijnde dingen toe gebruijkt zijn, indien het alweesendlijk nootsakelijk geweest is, iets op die bolwerken te plaatsen, en gecuppo„ neers dat die kostbaare goederen al op de punten van t front gebesigt waaren, soo is 't nog niet beweesen dat daar door zoo veel duijsend ponsen van deselve absent geraakt zijn, en gevolgelijk is hij volg:s het Constante gebruijk der E: Comp: /: dat haare dienaaren verantwoordelijk blijven voor 't geen zij op een haar aanbetrouwt werden„ de administratie door versuijm als andersints te min verantwoorden en laaten bederven :/ daar voor absolut Redivabel Ten Derden dat Hagemeester weegens geleesen verliesen 25. pCento advans op de verkogt 135430. –. lb Chittoon dat geduurende zijn administratie ten eenemaal ver„ Waarloost geworden is, ƒ 27083: 19. —. betaalen moet dog welkentweegen bij besluijt deeser tafel van den 6. 7ber: 1763. beslooten is, met het inkoops kostende van ƒ 17771. 5: —. ontend te weesen gelijk zulx dan ook bij het quadruplicq van dE Comp: aan„ gehaald is — De aanmerkingen die den Advocaat C Palmer Palmer daar omtrend maakt, en de bewijsen die hij daar omtrend, vord=t zijn Gelijkstandig met die van Sijkes, en zuster voorm: resolutie van den 10. feb: 1764. wederlegt waar aan wij ons zoo wel, als aan het ten nedergestelde bij 't tweede Articul van dit rapport, en de sorg die de admi„ nistrateurs voor de haar aanbevoolene goederen moeten dragen, refereeren, met deese bijvoeging egter dat de executeurs niet probeeren kunnen dat Hagemeister ooyt over gebrek van pak„ huijsen gedoleerd heeft, 't welk hij zeekerlijk tot voorkoming van sijn eijgen schade wel ge„ daan zoude hebben, indien zulx weesentlijk zoo ge„ weest was, en het is immers een ieder die maar iets van Cimilip=m weet te over bewust, dat aldaar genoegsame en goede pakhuijsen sijn— Ten vierden dat Hagemeester namptiseeren moet voor sijn aansdel in de schulden der Coopl:, een Eerde gedeelte of ƒ20231: 5:8. dog hier van zeed=t een gedeelte ingepalmt, en dis overl:s aandeel daardoor tot ƒ 12403. vermind=t zijnde, is zulx bij voorm: quadruplicq bekend gesteld — maar dewijl deese schuld zed=t. op het alhier genoome besluijt van den 5: Julij a:o 1765: door haar heog Ede„ Cens: 591 lens bij brieve van den 14' maart 1766. aan den tweede gecommitteerde van Bimilip=m ten tijde van Appengh en Bloeme den presente secunde vis„ scher mits het overleijden van den eersten dito bos„ schaart na aftrek der door hem aangetoonde ƒ 24000 Waar voor abisive de andere Coopl: gecrediteerd zijn, ende door appeng en Bloeme in Cassa getelde en in mindering dier schulden gediend hebbende Ropias 9300. –. of ƒ11808. –. –. videp de Reekening van gem: Vischer ged=e ult:o aug=o 1766 ter betaaling opgelegd is, behoudens zijn guarand op appengk en bloeme voorm: zonder van Hagemeester te gewaagen gelijk den zelven dan ook betaald heeft, zoo vermeenen wij dat op de namptiseering dier somma door de execu„ teurs van Hagemeister niet meer kan werden g'urgeerd, uijt hoofde die saak door de betaaling van visschen van de manqueerende ƒ4672. 5. geliquideerd geworden is, ten vijfden dat Hagemeester volgens be„ sluijt van den 6. 7ber: 1764. nog voldoen moet rop:s 663¾. zijnde het provenie der verkogte goe„ deren van den tholk en bramine die hij mede ge„ noomen heeft, gelijk deselve dan ook inge„ volge dat besluijt bij het quadruplicq van hem gepretend=t zijn, en het welk be„ weesen ing oor voor i weesen is bij een Extract Bimilip=se brief den advocaat palmer bij dat quadruplicq toegesonden (:niet tegenstaande deselve tot voor„ kooming van 'sComp:s schade Jngevolge resolutie van den 2:' Junij 1764. ook opreekering van bronsvelt gesteld zijn:/ Dog den advocaat Palmer heeft op de toesen„ ding van 't quadruplicq aan den palliacatse schriba Prieter bij letteren van den 15. decemb: 1763. /:waar bij zijn voorm: aanmerkingen overgesonden heeft gediend, dat de somma toen niet konde werden, g' eijscht, uijt hoofde soo hij zegt dat het niet noodzakelijk was, de remarques opr het weder antwoord der executeuren (:denoteerende daarmeede overtegeeven dewijl het een groot uijt„ het quadruplica stel in het eijnde van de zaak veroorsaaken, en hij indien het indertijd nootsakelijk was afstand. doen zoude van den eijsch der E: Comp: van 25: pC=o advans op het Cattoen bij het derde articul ver„ meld, en sulx is voor soo verre wij nagaan kunnen ook niet geschiet, want schoon do palliaCatse opperhoofden toen haar de besluijte deser vergade„ ring van den 10. feb: 1764. op de aanmerkingen van de executeurs gesonden wierden, teffens gelast zijn
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having had the clerk Truten urge the lawyer to surrender that paper, that jurist stated in his letter of the 18th of November 1764, without making any mention of the handover of that paper, that since only extracts from these governmental resolutions had been sent to him instead of the demanded sworn testimonies, it was therefore necessary to inform him which persons could confirm under oath that those extracts were written in the secretary's own hand, or that otherwise those papers would not be recognized as authentic by the judge; and having deliberated on this on the 27th of November 1764, such decisions were made as appear from the resolution, without however any mention being made therein of the quadruplicate, so that the Court of Justice would not yet have knowledge of the new facts and alterations presented in that paper in favor of the deceased, which in our opinion tends not a little to the prejudice of the affairs of the Honorable Company, because apart from the loss of what was newly claimed, it would have been evident to the judge, both by the reduction of the merchants' debts and the validation of the 25 per cent advance on the damaged cotton, that the Honorable Company demanded nothing more than what was lawful, and as soon as any change in favor of the deceased occurred therein, the same was validated according to equity, and one contenting oneself as economically as possible without imposing unfair burdens on the servants; herewith we hope to have complied with the honored intention of Your Honors, and have the honor to remain with respect, at the bottom stood, Honorable Great Lord and Gentlemen, Your Honors' humble and obedient servants, was signed, I: Appeng and I: van Tessel, in the margin, Nagapatnam, the 18th of September in the year 1767, lower, agrees, was signed, Wm Duijnevelt secretary, checked, was signed, G: fr do Ravaat geschrie, agrees, Hauquet de Jan, EG Clercq. Translation To the Honorable Gentlemen Dormieux and De Joncheere, Chief and Second at Pallia Catta I now inform Your Honors that publication has taken place in the case of the Dutch Company and the Executors of the deceased Mr. Hagemeister, which has caused a stop to any further time being granted for producing and examining witnesses; that on behalf of the Company I have delivered into court such of those papers which Your Honors sent to me as seemed to me the most suitable and necessary for that purpose; and that the Executors on their part have delivered in a long account, which seems to concern the handover of his post to his successor at Bimilipatnam, with some other papers, of which I think it would not be amiss to have copies. But as these will amount to between twenty and thirty pagodas at least, I did not wish to procure them without Your Honors' consent. If Your Honors therefore desire that I should procure copies of them, I will do so, and send them for Your Honors' perusal, if Your Honors desire to have them, after which the case will be heard in its turn, according to the proper course. I submit to Your Honors whether you will now remit to me fifty or sixty pagodas on account of these or other expenses, or whether Your Honors wish to postpone it until the case shall be decided, and settle the whole together. At the bottom stood, I am with the utmost respect and esteem, at the bottom stood, Gentlemen, Your Honors' obedient servant, was signed, John Sykes, in the margin, Fort St. George, the 26th of August 1768. Agrees, Vaucquet De Jan, EG Clercq. To P: G: Dormieux Esqr Chief and Nicolas de Jonchere, Second of Council at Pullicat Gentlemen I now acquaint you that publication has passed in the cause of the Netherlands Company and the Executors of Mr. Hagemeister deceased, which has put a stop to any more time being granted to produce and examine witnesses, and I have, on the part of the Company, delivered into court such of the papers which you sent me as appeared to me to be proper and necessary to be delivered in, and the Executors have on their part delivered in a long account which seems to concern his delivering over his charge to his successor at Bimilipatnam and some other papers, of which I think it would not be amiss to have copies, but as they will amount to between twenty and thirty pagodas at least, I did not choose to have them without your consent. If therefore you choose that I should procure copies of them, I will do so and send them for your perusal, if you please, after which the cause will be heard in its turn in due course with other causes, and I submit to yourselves whether you will make me a remittance of fifty or sixty pagodas now, on account of these and other costs, or whether you will postpone it till the cause is determined and settle the whole together. I am with the utmost respect and esteem, at the bottom stood, Gentlemen, your most obedient humble servant, was signed, Jns Sykes, in the margin, Fort St. George, 26 August 1768. Agrees, Hamquet De Jan, E Clercq.
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592 zijn door den schribe Truten op de afgaave van dat papier bij den advocaat te laaten aandringen, soo heeft dien regts„ geleerde bij sijn brief van den 18. ' 9ber: 1764. zonder eenig gewag van dien overgave van dat papier te maken, gediend dat dewijl hem insteede van de gevorderde b'eedigde getuijgenisse„ enkel extracten uijt deese reegerings besluijten gesonden waaren, het mitsdien noodsakelijk was, hem of infor„ meerd nit wierd, welke persoonen met eede zoude kunnen gestand doen, dat die extracten met de eygen„ hand van den secretaris geschreeven waaren, of dat anders die papieren door den regter niet voor auten„ „ticq zoude werden erkend, en waar over dan op den 27. 9ber: 1764. gedelibereerd zijnde, soodanige besluij„ ten gevallen sijn, als bij dies resolutie Consteerd, Con„ der dat daar bij egter van 't quadruplicq eenig gewag gemaakt werd, soo dat het hoff van Justitie nog geen kennis zoude hebben, zoo van de nieuwe feijten en veranderingen die ten voordeele van den over„ ledenen in dat papier geposeerd zijn, dat onses be„ dunkens niet weijnig tot prejuditie van de saaken der E: Comp: strekkende is, want buijten het ver„ lies van het op nieuw gepretendeerde zoude den regter soo bij de vermindering der schulden van de Coopl:, als de valitare deering van 25. perC=o advans op het be bedorven Cattoen evident gebleeken zijn, dat dE: Comp: niets meer als het geene wettig was, eijschte, en soo dra daar in maar eenige verandering ten voordeele der overl: voorquam het zelve volg:s de billikheijd gevalideerd wierd en men zig soo menagieus mogelijk overgenoegden sonder de dienaars„ onbillijke belastingen op te leggen hier meede ver„ van uwel Ed=s hoopen wij aan de geëerde intentie Gest: voldaan te hebben; en geven ons do eere met agting te verblijven /:onderstond:/ wel Edele gest: heer en heeren u welEdele gest: onderd: en gehoursame dienaaren /: was geteekend:/ I: Appeng„ en I: van Tessel /:in margine:/ nagapatnam Den 18. ' September a=o 1767. /:Lager:/ accord=t /:was geteekend:/ W=m Duijnevelt secretaris /enEest:/ Eccoudeert /:was get:/ G: fr do Ravaat geschrie Accordeerd Hauquet de Jan EG Clercq: A 593 Translaat Aan d' E: Heeren Dormieux en De Joncheeren oppehoofd en se cunse te Pallia Catta Jk verwittige uwel Ed:s nu, dat aankondi„ ging geschied is, in de zaak van de Neder„ landscha maatschappij, en der Executeuren van den overleedenen Heer Hagemeister, t welk eene verhindering te weege gebragt heeft, dat eenig tijd meer zou toegestaan wordene tot het voorbrengen en ondersoeken der getuijge„ „nis, dat ik ten behoeve van de maalschappij bij 't gerechts hof zulke van die papieren, die uwelEdelens mij toegesonden hebben, ingeleeverd heb, als mij de geschikste en noodwen„ digste daar toe scheenen, en dat de Executeuren van hunne zijde ingeleeverd hebben eene lange Reecq: welke schunt de overlevering te be„ treffen van zijnen post aan zijner opvol„ ger te Bimilipatnam, met eenige an„ dere papieren, waar van ik denk dat het niet N No. 37 niet qualijk zou weesen, afschriften te hebben: „ Maar dewijl die ten minsten tot tusschen de twintig en dertig pagooden zullen komen te staan, heb ik mij daar niet van willen voorzien, buijten uwer Edelens toe stem= =ming, zoo uwel Edele derhalven begeeren, dat ik afschriften daar van zou besorgen, ik sal t doen, en die toezenden tot uwel Edel=s speculatie, zoo uwel Edelens het begeeren te hebben, waar na de zaak verhoord zal worden, op haare beurt, naar den behoor„ Jk onderwerp mij aan uwel„ lijken Loop, of deselve mij nu eene remise willen Edelens, overmaaken van vijftig of sestig pagooden op reecq: van deese of geene uijtgaave, dan wel of uwel Edelens 't uijtstellen willen tot dat de saak beslist sal zijn, en dat het geheel te zaamen vaststellen /:onderstond:/ Jk ben met de uijtterste Eerbied 594 Eerbied d: agting /:onderstond:/ mijn heeren uwelE gehoorsame dienaar /:Was geteeken/ John Cijkes /:in margine:/ fort S=t george den 26. ' aug 1768. Accordeerd Vaucquet De Janl EG Clercq 595 To P: G: Dormieux Esq:r Chief h: Nicolas de Jonchere 7 2o of Council att Pullicate Gentlemen J now Acquaint ijou that Publication has passed in the cause of the netherlands companij K:r the Executors of M:r Hagemeister deceased; which has but a stop to anij more time being granted to produced Garine witnesses K shave, on the part of the companij, de livered into court such of the Papers which you fent me as ap¬ peared to me to beproper k:a necessarij to be delivered in, and the Executors have on their part delivered in a long account which seems to concern his delwvering over his charge to his successor at bimilipatnam &. some other paper, of which sthenk is would not be amiss to have copies, but as theij will amount to between Twentij & Pherlij pagodas at least I did not chuse to have them without ij our consent, Is therefore ijou chuse that should procure copias of them, swill do so & fend them for ijour perusal, it ijou please, after which the cause will be heard in ito turn in due course wth. other causes, and 8 I submit to ijour selves whether ijou will make me a Remittance of Foftij or sivetij pagodes, non, on Account of these &: other Cofto, or whether ijon will postpose it till the cause is ditermind k: settle the whole together Jam wih the utmost Respect &: lsteem /: on„ derstond:/ gentlemen ij our most obedient humble servant /:was geteekend:/ Jn:s Sijkes /:Jn margine:/ Fort 'T George 26. aug: 1768. Accordeerd Hamquet De Van E Clercq
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596 N 38 N Monday the 26th of September Anno 1768. And although in the aforementioned letters of the officials no mention was made of what was written by the English advocate Sykes concerning the matter of the lawsuit that was pending against the executors of Hagemeister's estate before the English Court of Justice, but they only enclosed the letter of that lawyer written on that subject with their letters: It was nevertheless, after reconsideration thereof, agreed to refrain from taking a copy of the long account produced by the executors, and to write the same to the officials, as also, if it were all the same to the advocate, to have him paid all the expenses at once when the lawsuit might be terminated, which sometimes might bring about a speedier conclusion of the same. Agreed. T. Nancquet de Jan Extract from the Resolution taken in Council of Coromandel E. Clercq No 39. 597 Translation of the letters of the advocate John Sykes out of Portuguese, addressed to the Honorable P. J. Dormieux, Chief, and N:s De Joncheere, Second at Palicol, dated the 8th and 24th of November. At this moment I was favored with Your Honors' letter of the 1st instant, but because no translation was attached to it, I remain as yet ignorant of the contents; thus I request the favor of its translation, presuming to be able to obtain the same from Your Honors. I can get the translation of it here, but I wish to eliminate the necessity of that letter being shown for that purpose, out of the apprehension of rendering unnecessary the communication of the contents thereof to the opposing party. I have the honor to be with profound respect and esteem, Beneath stood: Your Honors' obedient and humble servant. Was signed: John The 8th of November 1768. John Sykes In the margin: Fort St. George I had the pleasure to receive the favor of Your Honors of the 25th instant with the translation into Portuguese attached to it, which I had translated, thinking into English as well as I could, and it is easier to have translations of the Portuguese than of the Dutch languages, in which first I send Your Honors translations of my letters under dates of the 8th and 24th instant addressed to Your Honors, which I trust will answer in the same place as if they were in their own language. Concerning the exhibition or delivery that I mentioned, it has been produced before or on behalf of the executors, but because Your Honors said that the government judged it useless to take a copy of the same, I have therefore declined it, and To, as before. 598 I declined therefrom, and I shall consent to the hearing of the arguments and also listen to the reversal thereof; in accordance with Your Honors' requisition, I shall suspend my demand of the judgment until the proceedings shall be finished at the Mayor's Court, though the determination thereof could well be decisive, because they have a court of appeal, that is the Governor's Council, to the government of Nagapatnam to await their dispositions upon the contents thereof; yet Your Honors have not as yet favored me with your answer other than that of the 1st instant, and it was of such contents as I advised Your Honors upon the receipt thereof on the 8th instant, that I could not understand anything of it because a translation was not attached to it. In this state, Gentlemen, the matter remains delayed, which prevents me from pursuing anything regarding it, and if the executors wish to draw it to a close, our case will be broken without having knowledge of the writings produced by them, such as has been spoken of here above; unless, without Your Honors' consent, I were to provide myself with copies thereof, which I will however in no way do; in any case, I would now be glad to be relieved by Your Honors' final answer in that regard, out of the apprehension for the cause mentioned in the beginning, and the remittance on account will be agreeable to me; with profound respect and esteem. Beneath stood, and signed as before. In the margin: In Fort St. George the 24th of November 1768. Agreed. Nancquet De Jan EG Clercq 10 No. 40 599 Extract from the Resolution taken in Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam. Wednesday the 10th of January 1769. Whereupon it was resolved to cause exact inquiry to be made, as further elucidation should be desired, regarding what Advocate Sykes still required concerning the lawsuit against the executors in Hagemeister's estate, because through the unintelligibility of the transmitted translations of his letters written on that account, one could not understand his true intention; alongside which they should be instructed to inquire more closely whether one could appeal from the Court or Court of Justice to the Governor and Council at Madras, as must be inferred from the writing of the aforementioned lawyer, because one had been of the opinion here up to this time that such had to take place directly from the Court to England. Agreed. Nancquet De Jan EG Clercq No 41 600 Nagapatnam To the Right Honorable Pieter Haksteen, Extraordinary Councillor of the Dutch East Indies, as also Governor and Director of this Coast of Coromandel with the dependencies thereof, etc. Together with the Honorable Council there. Right Honorable and Honorable Sirs, Pursuant to Your Honors' esteemed recommendation, we have asked Advocate Sykes for information regarding the nature of appeal customary concerning the Mayor's Court, and regarding the state of the Company's lawsuit, to which his answer was brought to us today. We have the honor to send Your Honors an authentic copy and translation of the same, humbly requesting that it may please Your Honors To the Right Honorable Sir, us
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596 N38 N Maandag Den 26. ' September Ano 1768. En alhoewel bij der bediendens voorsz: Letteren geen mentie wierde gemaakt, van het geschrevene door den Engels ad„ „vocaat Sijkes nopens de affaire van het Proces, dat tee„ „gens de Executeurs van Hagemeesters boedel voor het Engels Justitie Hloff was, hangende, maar eenelijk de brief van dien regtsgeleerde over dat Luijet gesz:, bij haare Letteren hebben bijgevoegd: Soo wierd egter naar genomene resumptie derselve, verstaan aftesien van het nee„ „men eener Copia van de door de Executeurs Geprodu„ „ceerde Lange reekening, en het selve de bediendens aan„ „teschrijven, soo meede, indien het den advocaat onver„ „schillig was, hem alle de ongelden te gelijk te doen beta„ „len, wanneer het geding getermineerd mogte weesen, het geen somtijds een spoediger eijnde van het selve soude konnen te weegbrengen Accordeerd T Nancquet de Jan Extract uijt de Resolutie genoomen in Raade van Cormandel E Clercq op No 39. 597 Translaat der brieven van den Advocaat John Sij„ keluijt 't portugeel of addres seerd aan den Ed: P: J: Dormieux opperhoofd en N:s De Joncheere secunde ald Paldiacatta ge„ dateerd den 8. en 24. Nov: Op dit moment wierd ik gefavoriseerd met uwe Ed: brief van den 1. deeser, maar dewijl geen oversettinge 'er aan was gevoegd, blijve ik van den inhoude als nog onkundig dus vordere de gunst van desselvs translaat, presumeerde 't zelve, van uwelEd: te konnen bekoomen, ik kan alhier de traductie 'er van krijgen maar wil de noodsakelijk=heijd ver„ nietigen van die brief, ten dien Einde te vertoonen uijt de bedugtinge de Contenue er van, aan de tegenparthije te zullen werden gecommuniceerd onnodig te maaken Jk hebbe de Eere van met profund respect en deftiem te sijn /:onderstond:/: wel Ed: Dienstw: en gehoorsaame dienaar /:was geteekend:/ John den 8:' 9ber: 1768. John Cijkel /:in margine:/ fort C„t george Jk hadde 't vermaak van te ontfangen, de gunste Uwel Ed:s van den 25.:' deeser met de traductie in't portugees 'er aangevoegd, Welk ik overgeset kreeg, te denken in 't engels„ zoo als ik kon en 't is facielder, te hebben Translatien der portugeese dank„ van de hollands taalen, in welke /:eerste:/ ik uwel Ed: toesende traductien mijner brieven in datis 8. en 24.:' Courant aan uwel E:s gerigt, welke ik vertrouwe te zullen beandwoorden ter selve plaatse als of ze waaren in haare eijge taald Betreffende 't Exhibeeren /:overleeveren:/(daar ik van gewaagde, is voor ofte van wegen de Executeu„ ren geproduceert maar dewijl uwEd: zeiden dat de regeeringe onnut oordeelde Copij van 't selve te neemen, heb ik dus 'er van gedoclineerd, en Aan als vooren ik 598 ik dinsin van gadulliimeerd, aan ik sal de aanhoo„ rige der reden toe stemmen en ook aanhooren, ter omkeeringe van dien over een komsteeg met uw Ed: requisit zal mijn veraderinge van 't vonnis op ge„ schort laaten tot de proceduure zal wesen gefi„ nieert ten majors Court, dog de determinatie van dien konde wel decisief zijn, om dat ter een hof hebben van appel, dat is de Gouver„ nos Raad, aan de Regeering van nagap„m om derselver Dispositien over de Contenue er van aftewagten dog UWE=s hebben mij als nog niet begunstigd met hun antw: anders dan dat van 1' Courant en was van sodanigen inhoude als ik uwE=s adverteerde, ter ontfang van dien op den „niet van konde begrijpen om dat er 8: deeser dat ik en „ een oversettinge en aan was ge„ voegt Jn deesen staat heeren blijft de saak terug ietwets- gezet, dat mij belet daar omtrend te betragten „ en willende de executeurs die ten eijnde trecken zal de onse verbrooken sijn, sonder kennisse te hebben der schriftuuren door haar geprodu„ Ceert Ceerd, soodanig als hier boven is gesprockens; ten waare ik buijten uw Ed:s bewilliging mij quam te versien van der selver afschriften 't geen ik egter op geenderhande manieren wil doen, in alle gevalle zoude ik nu verblijd sijn ontset te werden, aan uwelE:s finaal andwoord ten dien belange uijt de bedugtinge, voor de oorsaake in den beginne ge„ waagdes en het remis op de reekeninge zal mijn aan„ genaam sijn; met profund respect En ettiem /:onderstond:/ en geteekend alsvooren /in margine :/ in't fort S=t George den 24„' Novemb: 1768. Accordeerd Nauequet De Jan EG Clercq 10 No. 40 599 Extract uyt de Re„ solutie Genoomen in Raade van Cormandel tot Naga„ patnam woensdag Den 10:' Januarij 1769 Alwaar verstaan werd exact te doen inqui„ reeren, zoo als nader Elucidatie begeerd zoude werden, omtrent het geene den Advocaat Zijkes. nog requireerde nopens het geding tegens de executeurs in Hagameesters boe„ del, dewijl men door de onverstaanbaarheijd, der overgesondene translaten zijner dierwegens geschrevene brieven, desselfs regte intentie niet konde begrijpen, waar neevens haar gelast soude werden, eens nader te verneemen, of men van het Court off Justitie hof appelleeren konde aan den Gouverneur en Raad te Madrapp=m, op gelijk . Gelijk dat op gemaakt moeste worden, uijt het schrijven van der voormelde Regtsgeleevs dewijl men hier dus lange in opinie geweest was, dat zulx direct van het Court, na Enge land Geschieden moeste Accordeerd Nanquet De Van EG Clercq No 41 600 Nagapatnam Pieter Haksteen Den wel Edele Gestr: heere Extraordinaris Raad van Nederlands Jndia, mitsg:s gouverneur en directeeur deser kuste Cormandel met den resorte ƒ &n van dien h: R: K Nevens den Achtbaaren Raad aldaar Wel Edele gestr: heere en heeren. Jngevolge van uwd: gestr: g'eerde aanbevel ling, hebben wie aan den advocaat sij ken d'on„ derrigting gevraagd over den aard van Appel gebruijkelijk omtrend het Moijors Court, en over de gesteldheijd van 'sComp:s proces, op welke ons zijner antwoord heden toegebragt is wij gevin„ ons de Eere uwelEd gestr: een authentike kopij en translaat van deselve toe te senden, nederig„ versoekende dat het uwelEd: getr: mogen behagen Aan den welEdelen gestr: heer ons
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to inform us as soon as possible how it pleases you that the lawyer Sijkens should act after the delivery of the verdict, which he says will take place next Tuesday, after which only fourteen days' time are left to submit the petition of appeal. We furthermore also request your Right Honourable qualifications to make the remittance of one hundred pagodas, as requested by the aforementioned lawyer, who anticipates needing the same for upcoming expenses. We call ourselves, for the rest, with due respect: below stood: Right Honourable Sir and Sirs, your Right Honourable's most humble, most modest and very obedient servants: was signed: P: J: Vormien, and N:o de Joncheere: In the margin: Palliacatta, the 11th of March, Anno 1764. Agreed J Hauquet De Jan E G Clercq 41: No 42. 601 Tuesday the 28th of March 1769 Extract from the resolution taken in the Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam. Regarding the two letters received from Palliacatta, dated the 11th and 12th of this month, with the former stating that the Company's lawyer, in the proceedings against the executors in the estate of the junior merchant and former secunde of Bimilipatnam, Carel Lodewijk Hagemeester, who died at Madraspatnam, had communicated to the chiefs that on Tuesday the 14th following, the lawsuit pending before the Court of Justice there was to be pronounced, with the request that he might be informed as soon as possible whether, in case the Honourable Company should succumb, they would be inclined to appeal, since only 14 days were allocated for the appellant, and that he, the lawyer, would also require some time to prepare his papers or petition to that end; And since, due to the insecurity of the roads, the letter carriers were long delayed and were even forced to take part of the route by sea, so that this news was brought here too late to appeal early enough, seeing that the time of 14 days stipulated by the aforementioned lawyer has expired today: so after extensive reasoning thereupon, it was taken into consideration that one could hardly declare in advance, before one has read and reviewed the sentence, whether one finds it necessary to appeal the judgment to a higher court, which reason would likely also be valid before the Court at Madras, and thus there would apparently be means, notwithstanding the expiration of the legal deadline, to obtain relief from the untimely filing, revival, and prosecution of the appeal, or else to request a writ of reformation; but against this, it also having been weighed that, however equitable the Company's claim on the estate of Hagemeister might be, the same was counterbalanced by two minor orphans left behind by the said Hagemeister, who make a great impression on human sympathy, and that those children have already been sent to Europe by the guardians at the expense of the estate, and possibly the funds as well, since it does not appear that any attachment was ever placed upon them; and that furthermore, the English gentlemen, being unacquainted with the Company's treatment regarding its servants, could very easily maintain that a complete accounting could have been demanded from Hagemeister before dismissing him from the post where he had been second; as well as that, being unacquainted with the customs and manner of English legal proceedings, one consequently had to rely solely on the competence and loyalty of an unknown lawyer, wherein mistakes could well be made, not to mention that the costs have already run up very high through the continuous remittances to the legal practitioner, who now again demands a sum of one hundred pagodas, and will likely become even much higher if the sentence is appealed, and this matter will thus in course of time have to serve in England, above which the opposing party might perhaps, in case the Honourable Company should succumb on appeal, initiate an action for damages and interest; All of which reasons caused the assembly to resolve not to declare for the present whether an appeal will be lodged against the judgment, but first to await the sentence from Madras, in order to take a decision regarding it after reading the same. All of which was furthermore understood to be written to the Palliacatta chiefs, and at the same time to qualify them for the disbursement of the aforementioned 100 pagodas requested by the lawyer. Agreed J Nancquet De Jan E Clercq 603 Nagapatnam. No 43 To the Right Honourable Pieter Haksteen, Extraordinary Councillor of the Netherlands Indies, as well as Governor and Director of this Coast of Coromandel and its dependencies, together with the Council. To the Right Honourable Sir, Right Honourable Sir and Sirs. We have the honour, under submission of the accompanying copies and translations, to render to Your Honour the required report regarding the state of the Company's lawsuit lately at Madras. After we, following the report given in that regard in our humble letter of the 11th ultimo, awaited Your Honour's orders, that lawsuit was pronounced on the 20th following in favour of the executors of the deceased junior merchant Hagemeister, as appears from the transmitted verdict thereof. The strict terms:
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ons ten spoedigsten te Jnformeeren, hoedanig gelieven dat den advokaat sijkens zal handelen na de inspraa„ ke van zaaken, die hij zegd tegens aanstaande dingsdag te zullen geschieden, en waar na maar veertien dagen teid gelaaten word om het versoek van appel in te leeveren. Wij versoekken wijders ook uwel Ed: gestr: Kwalifica„ 6 tie tot het doen van de remise van honderd pagoo„ den, waartoe we door op gem: advokaat versocht worden, en die sich voorsteld deselve tot de voorte„ komene ongelden te sullen benodigen. Wij noemen ons overigens met het verschul„ digt respect /:onderstond:/ Wel Ed: gestr: heere, en heeren; uwel Ed gestr: onderdanigste, ootmoedigste en seer„ gehoorsaame dienaar /:wa/ geteekend:/ P: J: Vormi„ en, en N:o de foncheere /:In margine:/ Pallia„ Catta, den 11. ' maart A:o 1764. Accordeerd JHauquet De Tan EGClercq 41: No 42. 601 Dingsdag Den 28.:' Maart 1769 Bij de van Pallia Catta ontvangene twee brieven; de datis 11. en 12. deeser maand bij de eerst„ gemelde vermeld werdende, dat 'sComp:s advo„ Caat in de proceduren Contra de Executeurs in den boedel van den te Madrasp=r overleedene onder Coopman en geweesene secunde van Bi„ Carel Lodewijk Hagemeester milipatnam, aan de opperhoofden Communcatie gegeeven hadde als dat op dingsdag den 14. ' daar aanvolgende het proces voor het Justitie hof aldaar hangende, stond uijtgesprooken te werden, met versoek dat hem mitsdien ten spoedigsten geinformeerd mogte werden, of in Cas de E: Comp: mogte suc„ Cumbeeren, genegen zoude weesen te appellee„ Extract uijt de resolutie genoomen in Raade van Cormandel tot Nagapatnam „ren op ren, dewijl en maar 14.:' dagen van beraamd was, voor den appellant, en dat hij advocaat ook wel eenigen tijd zoude benodigen sijn papieren of versoek tot dien einde in gereedheijd te brengen; En dewijl door de onveijligheijd derwegen, de brie„ „ve dragers lang opgehouden, en selfs genoot„ „zaakt geweest sijn, een gedeelte van de route ter zee te neemen, dus die tijding alhier te laat aangebragt is, om nog vroeg genoeg te appelleeren, vermits de door voorn: Regtsge„ leerde gestelde tijd van 14: dagen heden g'ex„ pireerd is: soo quam daar over breedvoerig gerai„ sonneerd sijnde, in Consideratie, dat men sig Geldij bij anticipatie voor dat men de sententie geleesen en geresumeerd heeft, konde de clareeren of men het necassair vind, van het geweijsde tot een hoger regten te provoceeren, welke reeden waarschijnelijk ook wel bij het Court te Madras soude gelden, en en dus apparent wel middel zijn, om niet tegenstaande het verloop van de fatalias te obtineeren, re„ lief vande indebite interjectie verheffing en 602 en profecutie der appellatie, dan wel te versoeken mandament van reformatie dog daar en tegen mede gepondereerd zijnde, dat hoe billijk de pre„ tentie van de Comp: ook is, of den boedel van Hagemeister, deselve gecontrabalanceerd wierd, door twee minderjaarige weesen door gen: hagemeister nagelaaten, dewelke op het menschelijke veel Enpressie maken, dat ook die kinderen door de voogden reeds ten kosten van den boedel na Europa gesonden zijn, en mogelijk ook wel de penningen, nadien het niet blijkt, dat 'er ooijt arrest op gelegd is, en dat wij„ ders bij de heeren engelsen als onkundig van 'sComp:s behandeling omtrent haare dienaa„ ren, veel ligt gesustineerd zoude kunnen werden, dat hagemeister een Compleete verant„ woording hadden kunnen werden afgevorderd, alvoorens dat men hen van 't Comptoir daar hij tweede was geweest, demitteerde, mitsg:s dat men ook de Costumes, en manier vande Engelse procedures onkundig zijnde, gevolglijk alles eenelijk op de kundigheijd en trouiwe van een on Was l of onbekende advocaat moeste laten aankoomen daar wel in kon„ de werden misgetast, ongerekend nog dat de kosten door de Continueele remisen aan de practisijn, die nu alweder een Somma van een hondert pag:, eijscht, reedste hoog op stok gelopen zijn, en waarschijnelijk nog alveel hoger te staan zullen komen, wanneer vande sententie geappelleerd werd, en deese zaak dus in vervolg van tijd en engeland zal moe„ ten dienen, waaren boven parthij wel eens, in geval„ le de E: Comp: in appel mogt succumbeeren, een actie van schade en interessen zoude komen ent hamoe„ ren; Alle welke reedenen de vergadering hebben doen resolveeren zig voor eerst nog niet te declareeren, of men van het gewijsde zal appelleeren maar al„ voorens de sententie van Madras aftewagten, om na Lectura van dezelve daar omtrent een besluijt te nee„ men. alle het geen alverder verstaan wierd, de pal„ liacatse opperhoofden aante schrijven en deselve teffens te qualificeeren, tot de afgaave van voorsz door den advocaat gerequireerden 100: pagoosen Accordeerd J Nancquet De Tan E Clercq 603 Nagapatnam. No 43 Den wel Edelen Gestr: heer Pieter Maksteen. — Extra - ordinaire Raad van Neederland sch Jndia, mitsgaders gouverneur en Directeur deser Custe Cormandel met den Resorte van dien fa a No „r R„r R„s Neevens Den Raad. Aan Den wel Zdelen Gestrengen heer Wel Edele Gestr: heer en Heeren. Wij hebben de eene onder aanbieding van de nevens gaande Copijen, en Translaaten aan UWE: gestr: het verschuldigd verslag te doen, wegens den toestand van het Comp=s proces ten lauate te madras Na dat wij op de dierwegens gegeeven be„ rigt, bij onsen needrigen van den 11. ' pass=o uwE: gestr: beveelen hebben afgewagt, is dat proces op den 20. daar aan uijtgesprooken geworden ten voordeele van de Executeuren van den overleeden onderkoopman Hagemeister, uijt wij„ sens het daar van overgaande vonnis. De stuckte bepaaling: kon„ V
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stipulation regarding the time of the appeal and the lack of the information we had requested from Your Highly Esteemed Honor, were the motives by which we finally found ourselves compelled, on the 30th, subsequently to advise the attorney Sijkes to appeal against that judgment to the Governor and Council of Madras, as Your Highly Esteemed Honor shall find from the copy of the letter addressed by us to that end; and to which decision we felt moved by the consideration that it was on the one hand to be assumed, from Your Highly Esteemed Honor's own inquiry into the nature of the appeal, that it was your intention to bring that matter if necessary before a higher court. On the other hand, we judged that as the case had been decided by the Court against the Company, and the latter sentenced to pay all costs, it could without apprehension of any further consequence be brought to the decision of the Government of Madras, of which the further costs can be of little or no consequence, and lastly that should the Company also be sentenced in the appeal, it would always remain at the discretion of Your Highly Esteemed Honor to let the matter rest as such, or with the same privilege to bring it to further further hearing. We believe we may flatter ourselves that these reasons will now be judged by Your Highly Esteemed Honor to be as well-founded as they appeared to us, and that it will consequently please Your Highly Esteemed Honor to favor all our actions regarding the interests of that lawsuit with your honored approval; as we also humbly request the same with respect to our remittance of the One hundred Pagodas that attorney Seijkes requested for the Court charges. We furthermore insist on being joined with Your Highly Esteemed Honor's further orders as to how we are to act in the future in the interests of that case, and on our part we shall dutifully bring to Your Highly Esteemed Honor's knowledge whatever may be decided in that regard by the Council of Madras. Meanwhile, we call ourselves with all respect, Highly Esteemed Sir and Gentlemen, Your Highly Esteemed Honor's most obedient and humble servants, signed: P. J. Dormieux, and N. De Joncheere In the margin: Palliacatta, the 5th of April 1769. Agreed: J Haucquet De Jan EG Clercq To the Honorable Messrs. Dormieux and De Joncheere, Chief and Second at Palliacatta. No. 44 Honorable Sirs, Today the case of the Dutch Company was decided in favor of the Executors of the deceased Hagemeister, so that the Company's bill stands dismissed with costs. When I receive the decree, I shall send Your Honors a copy, and regarding the appeal, Your Honors are fully informed on that head. I have the honor to be, Honorable Sirs, your obedient servant, signed: John Sijkes In the margin: Fort St. George, the 20th of March 1769. As above. Translation: Having obtained the decree of the Mayor's Court concerning the case of the Dutch Company with the Executors of the deceased Hagemeister, I send Your Honors a copy of it, from which Your Honors will see that the Court was of the opinion that the Company did not support its claim against or on the estate of Hagemeister, and therefore the bill of complaint was dismissed with condemnation of costs. It would be unnecessary for me to say anything further regarding what is required in case Your Honors choose to appeal the case to the Governor and Council, as I have already written to Your Honors in full on that subject, and I hope to be favored with Your Honors' answer in time enough to enable me to prepare and deliver the petition of appeal, in case Your Honors intend to do so. I am with much respect and esteem, signed as above. In the margin: Fort St. George, the 23rd of March 1769. Agreed: JWamquet De Tanl Eij Clercq To P. I. Dormieux Esq. Chief & Nicolas de Joncheere Esq. 2nd of Council at Pullicata. Gentlemen, This day the cause of the Netherlands Company has been determined in favor of the Executors of the deceased Hagemeister, so the Company's bill stands dismissed with costs. When I get the decree, I will send you a copy of it, and with regard to appealing, you are fully informed on that head. I have the honor to be, Gentlemen, your most obedient humble servant, signed: John Sijkes In the margin: Fort St. George, 20 March 1769. Agreed, signed: P. J. Dormieux To P. J. Dormieux Esq. Chief & Nicholas de Joncheere Esq. 2nd of Council at Pullicate. Gentlemen, Having got the decree of the Mayor's Court in the cause of the Netherlands Company with the Executors of the deceased Hagemeister, I now send you a copy of it, whereby you will see that the Court were of opinion that the Company had not supported their claim against, or on the estate of Hagemeister, and therefore the bill stands dismissed with costs. It would be unnecessary for me to say anything more about what is requisite in case you choose to appeal this cause to the Governor & Council, as I have already fully written you on that head, and hope to be favored with an answer about this business time enough to enable me to prepare & lodge a petition of appeal in case you choose so to do. I am with much respect & esteem, Gentlemen, your most obedient and most humble servant, signed: John Sijkes In the margin: Fort St. George, 23 March 1769. Agreed, signed: P. J. Dormieux Agreed: Naeuquet De Tan EG Clercq
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bepaaling omtrent den sijd van het Appel en het agter blijven van de informatie die wij van uwEd: gestr: verzogt hadden, waa„ ren, de beweeg middelen, waar door wij ons eijndelijk gedwongen zagen, op den 30. ver„ volgens den advocaat sijkes aan te raa„ den, wegens die uijtspraake te appelleeren aan den gouverneur en raad van Madras, gelijk uw Ed: Gestr: zulx zullen bevinden uijt de Copij van den brief, doar ons ten dien eijnde gericht; en tot welk besluijt wij ons bewoogen vonden, daar de overweeging, dat het eens deels te veron„ derstellen waar, uijt de eijgene ondervraa„ ging uwer welEd: Gestr: over den aart van het appel, dat het desselvs intentie was die zook bij noodzaakelijkheijd voor een hoo„ ger geregt testellen. anderen deels oordeelden wij, dat daar het proces door het Court uijt gesprooken was, teegens de Comp:, en deeze gecondemneerd in alle de kosten, dien zonder bedugting van eenig nader gevolg konde gebragt worden, aan de decisie van de Regeering van Madras, waar van de verdere kosten van weijnig of geene aanmer„ king kunnen zijn, en Laastelijk dat d' Comp„e in het appel ook gevonnist wordende, het althoos aan het goedvinden uwer welEd: gestr: zoude blijven die zaak zoodanig telaten be„ rusten, of met het zelvde voorregt tot verder; 604 verder verhoor te brengen wij vermeenen ons temogen vlijen dat deese reedenen door uwEd: gestr: tans alsoo gegrond zullen geoordeeld worden, als zij ons staen zijn voorgekoomen, en dat het dien vol„ gens uwEd: gestr: behagen zullen alle onse ver„ rigtingen, ten belangen van dat proces, met derselver g'eerde approbatie te begunstigen: gelijk wij meede zulks needrig verzoeken, ten op zigte van de door ons gedaane remise van de Een honderd Pagoden die den advokaat seijkes tot de ongelden van het Court heeft begeert, wij insteeren doorneevens om met uw E: gestr: nadere beveelen vereend temogen worden, hoedanig wij in het ver„ volg, ten belangen van die zaak tehan„ delen te hebben, en we zullen van onse zeijde schuldpligtig ter uwEd: Gestr: kennis onbrengen, het geen dien aan„ gaande door den Raad van Madras mag beslooten werden. Intussen noemen wij ons met alle eerbiedigheijd /:onderstond:/ WelEd: gestr: heer en heeren /:Lager:/ uwelEd: Gestr: aller gehoorsaamsten en onderdanige dienaren /:was geteekend:/ P: J: Dormieux, en N„s De Joncheere /:Jn margine:/ Palliacatta, den 5. ' april 1769. — Accordeerd J Haucquet De Jan EG Clercq 605 Aan d E Heeren Dormieuren De Joncheeren opperhoofd en se cunde te Pallia Cattie No 44 WelEdele Heeren van daag is de saak van de Nederlandse Comp: gevonnist in voordeele van de Executeurs van den overl: Hagemeister, zoo dat Comp:s ge„ schrift ter zeijde gesteld staat met de kosten, Wanneer ik het besluijt krijg zal ik uwel„ Ed:s een Copij toesenden, en ten aanzien van appelleeren, zijn uwel Ed:s geheelelijk daar omtrend onderrigt /:onderstond:/ ik heb d'eere te zijn /onderstond:/ Wel Ed: Heeren, juwE gehoorsaame dienaar: Wal. get/:/ Johns Sijkes /:in margine :/ fort s= George den 20:' Maart 1769 Nes Boven Het besluijt van de Majons Court, gekregen hebbende over de saak van de nederlandse Comp., met de Executeuren van den overledenen Ha¬ Translaat gemeester en een copij daar van, waar uijt UwellEd„ gemeester, zend ik uwel Ed=s zullen sien, dat het Court van denkbeeld is geweest, dat de Comp haaren eijsch tegens of op de besitting van nagem: niet onder„ steund heeft, en daarom is 't proces geschrift verweesen met Condemnatie der kosten Het soude voor mij onnedig sijn iets meer„ der te seggen omtrent het geen vereijscht Wort, in geval uwel Ed: geskiesen over de saak te appelleeren aan den gouverneur en raad, alsoo ik reeds ter vollen over dat onderwerp aan uwel Ed:s Geschreeven heb, en hoope met uwel Ed:s antwoord te sullen begunstigd worden, tijdig genoeg om mij in staat te stellen tot de bezeiding en overleevering van 't geschrift van Appel, bij aldien Uwel Ed: zulx van sints zijn te doen /:onderstond:/ Jk beb met veel respect en eftiem— /:onderstond:/ en was get:/ als boven — /:in margine:/ fort Ct t george den 23. ' Maart 1769 Accordeerd JWamquet De Tanl Eij Clercq 606 To P: I: Dormieu, Esq:r Chiet & Nicolas de Joncheere Esq:r 2 of council at Pullicata Ginthemen This daij the cause of the Netherlands companij has been deter mined in favor of the Executors of the deceased Hagemeister so the companijs bille Htands dismissed w=t costs, when J get the decree I will sendij ou a copij of it, and with regard to appealing, yoware fullij Jnformed on that head 1 have the honorto be /:onderstond:/ gentlemen lager ijour most obedient numble sevrant /:was geteekend/ John Sijkes /:Jnmargine/ Fort s' george 20. march 1769. /:onderstond:/ accor„ deerd :/ was geteekend:/ P: J: dormieux To P: J: dormauux Eg:s chie, &: Nicholas de Joncheere Esq: 2: of council at Pullicate Centlemen d Having got the dicree of the Maijors Court in the cause of the Net herlands companij with Executors of the deceased: hagemeister I now send you a copij of it whereby ijoull see that the court were of opinion that the companij had not supported their claima„ gainst, or on the Estate of Ragemerster t thereforets the bill stands desmissed wils costs It would be unnessessarij for me to saij anij¬ thing more about what is requifit in case you chuse to appeal this cause to the governor & coun„ cil, as shave alreadij fullij wrote you on that head k hope to be favouwd with an answer about this business, time Enough to enable me to pre„ pare & Lodge a petition of appeal in case you chuse sato do Jam wilh much respect 15: lsteem gentlemen ijour most obedient h most humble servant /:was geteekend:/ John Lijkes /:Inmargine:/ Fort S:t Ghorge 23. ' marct 1759. /:onderstond:/ Accordeerd /:was geteekend:/ P: J: dormieux Accordeerd Naeuquet De Tan EGClercq
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687 No. 45 Translation Mayor's Court at Madraspatnam Tuesday the 21st of March Anno 1769 Present Edward Stracey Esquire, Mayor President Thomas Powney, Arthur Cuthbert Francis Jourdan and John Holland Aldermen /:members Between the Dutch East India Company, through their agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, as plaintiffs, and the Reverend John Philip Fabricius, of Vepery, and John Calland, merchant residing at Madras, both Executors of the estate of the late Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, former junior merchant in the service of the said East India Company, as defendants. This case coming to be heard and debated today in the presence of the attorneys on both sides, upon the reading of the plaintiffs' bill with an account annexed thereto, the answer of the defendants, the replication and the rejoinder, together with four exhibits with their translations on the part of the plaintiffs, and three exhibits with their translations on the part of the defendants, on hearing the pleadings held by the attorneys, and upon due consideration made in the interest thereof, it appeared to the Court that the plaintiffs have brought not the slightest proof in support of any of the claims made by them upon the estate of the deceased Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, wherefore this Court has thought fit to order and decree, as it is accordingly hereby ordered and decreed, that the bill of complaint of the plaintiffs be dismissed with condemnation of costs /:beneath stood:/ Per Curiam /:was signed:/ J. M. Stone Registrar Agreed Haccquet De Vane E. G. Clercq 608 L S Mayor's Court at Madraspatnam Tuesday the 21st day of March Anno Domini 1769 Present Edward Stracey, Esquire Mayor Thomas Powney, Arthur Cuthbert, Francis Jourdan and John Holland Aldermen Between the East India Company of Holland by their agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, complainants, and the Reverend John Philip Fabricius and John Calland of Madras, merchant both Executors to the Estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister deceased late Junior merchant in the service of the said East India Company defendants. This cause coming on to be heard and debated this day in the presence of the attorneys on both sides, on reading the complainants' bill with an account annexed, the defendants' answer, the Replication, the Rejoinder, four Exhibits and Translates thereof on the part of the complainants, three Exhibits and translates thereof on the part of the defendants, on hearing the pleadings made use of by the attorneys, and on due consideration had thereon it appearing to the court that the complainants have not brought the least proof in support of any of their demands made on the Estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, This Court doth therefore think fit to order and decree, and doth accordingly order and decree that the complainants' Bill shall stand dismissed with Costs /:beneath stood:/ Per Curiam signed J. M. Stone Registrar /:lower agreed:/ was signed:/ P. J. Dormieux 605 Madraspatnam To Mr. John Sykes advocate No. 46 before the Court of Justice Sir We have in due time received both Your Honour's letters, and with the latter also the verdict of the Mayor's Court, from which we find that the case of the Dutch Company has been pronounced in favour of the Executors of the late Hagemeister and that the Company's action stands dismissed with costs. We have to date received no answer from the government of Nagapatnam to our last report of the case. But as the time approaches and it seems necessary to us to take a decision regarding this, we think it most suitable for the interests of the Company and to the intention of our superiors to advise Your Honour to appeal this case to the Governor and Council, of whose further decision we request to be informed. We send with the bearer of this the one hundred pagodas that Your Honour requested for the costs of the Court, and in case we receive any information from Nagapatnam in the meantime we shall inform Your Honour thereof, if such can be done before the filing of the writ of appeal; therefore requesting Your Honour, if it still be possible, to procure a few days' further delay for us. We remain /:beneath stood:/ Sir /:lower:/ Your Honour's humble and obedient servants /:was signed:/ P. J. Dormieux, and N. De Joncheere /:in the margin:/ Pulicat the 30th of March Anno 1769. /:beneath stood:/ agreed:/ was signed:/ P. J. Dormieux Agreed Haccquet De Vane E. Clercq No. 47 610 Thursday the 27th of April 1769 Extract from the Resolution taken in Council of Coromandel at Nagapatnam on Furthermore, from what was communicated by the servants' letters of the 5th of this month, it was observed with the utmost astonishment that the Court or the English Court of Justice at Madraspatnam had rejected the claim of the Honourable Company against the estate of the deceased junior merchant and former second in command at Bimilipatnam, Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister, with costs. And whereas this Government, regarding their instance concerning the appeal and prosecution of this case, after what was resolved in the session of the 28th of March last by letters
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687 No: 45 Majors Court te Translaat Madraspatnam W Dingsdag den 21: Maart Anno 1769 present Eduard ftraceij Es qjure Majors president Thomas Powneij, Arthur Calhbert Francis Jourdan &a John Hollord Aldermen /:leeden Tusschen de hollandsche oostin„ dische Comp: door hunner agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, als aanklagers en den eerwaarden John Philip Fabrecius, van repore, en Johan Calland, koop„ man te madrast woonagtig, beijde Executeuren van de nalatenschap Wijlen Casel Lodewijk Hagemeister, geweesene onderkoopman in dienst van gem: oostindesche Comp: als verdrodigers Deese zaak ter verhoor gekoomen en heden in tegen„ woordigheijd der procureurs aan beijde sijde betwist ge„ worden met eene daar bij gevoegde reek:, het aandwoord der verdeedigers, de replique en 't weder antwoord, mitsg:s vier voordragten met dies translaten van wegens der aanklagers, en drin voordrag„ ten met dies translaten van wegens de ferdee di„ gers in het aanhooren van de plijtingen door de procureurs gehouden, en op de behoorlijke aan merking ten belangen van dien gemaakt, is het gebleeken aan het Court dat de aankla„ gers geen het geringst bewijs bij gebragt heb„ ben, ter ondersteuning van eenige der Eijsschen door hen op de bezitting vanden overleedenen Carel Lodewijk Hagemeister gemaakt daar om heeft deese Court het betaamelijk gedagt te gelasten en verorderen, gelijk gevolgelijk word zulx gelast gerordend, bij deesen, dat het proces geschrift vande aanklagers zerweesen worde met Condemnatie der kosten /:onderstond:/ P: Chier /:was geteekend:/ I. M: Stone Reg=s Accordeerd Haccquet De Vane worden zoo slop het leesen van den aanklagers geschrift EG Clercq 608 L S Maijors Court at Madraspatnam Present Edward Straceij, Esquire Massor Thomas Powneij, Arthur Cuthbert, Francis Jourdan k. John Holland Alderman Between the last Jndia companij of Holland bij their agent daniel Batholomeus Truter, complainants, and the reverend John Philip Fa„ trecius and John Calland of Ma¬ dras, merchant both Executors to the Estate of Charles Louis ha¬ gemeister deceased late Junior merchand in the service of the said last Jndia Companij detendants. This cause coming on te be heard and debated this daij in the presence of the attornies on both sides, on reading the complainants bill with an accourt annexed, the detendants conserver, the Replication, the Rejoinder, four Efhibits and Translates Thereof on the part of the complai„ nants, Tree Efhibito and translates thereof on Tchesdaij the 21. daij of miarch Anno domini 1769. the Copij the desendants, on hearing the pleadings made use of bij the attornies, and on due consideration had thereon st appearing to the court that the complainants have not brougt the leaft proof in support of anij of their demands made on the Estate of the deceased charles Louis hage meister, This Court doth therefore think &it to order and decree, and doth accordinglij order and decree that the complainants Bill shall stand desmissed wilh Cofts /:onder stond / P=r Cur signed J: M: Hone Req: /:lager accordeerd:/w afgeteekend:/ P: I: dotmerf 605 Madraspatnam Aan den Heer John Sijkes advocaat No. 46 voor 't Hof van Justitie Zijn Heer bij hebben ter behoorlijker teid, ontvangen beide dewelEd:s brief, en met den laasten ook het vonnis gande majors Court waar uijt 'p bevinden dat de saak van de Nederlandsche Comp:, uijtgesprooken is, ter voordeele van de Executeuren Landen overl: Hagemeester en dat de Comp:e processtukken verweesen staan met de kosten, wij hebben tot heden noch geen antwoord van de reegering van Nagap=m ontfangen, op onsen Laasten berigt van de zaak Maar alsoo de tijd nadert en het ons nodig scheijnende een besluijt omtrent dien te neemen, denken w het meest gevoeglijk voor de belangens van d' Comp: en aan de in„ tentie tentie onser bestionders te sijn uwel Ed: te adviseeren om deese saak te appelleeren aan den gouverneur &'raad van wiens nader besluijt wij versoeken onderrigt te Worden Wij zenden met den brenger deeses de een hond=t pag: die uwol Ed: tot de kosten van 't Court versogt hebb en bij aldien we intusschen eenige informatie van naga„ patnam ontfangen zullen we Uwel Ed: daar van berigt geeven, wanneer zulx gedaan kan worden voor de inleevering van 't Geschrift van appel; van Uw Ed: dieshalven versoekende zo het nog mogelijk sij eenige dagen meerder uitstel aan ons te besorgen wij verblijven /:onderstond:/ mijn heer /Lager:/ UWel Ed:s onderdanige &: gehoorsame dienaaren /:was geteek=:/ P: I: Dormieux, en N:s De Joncheere /: in margine:/ Pallia Catta den 30. ' Maart A=o 1769. /:onderstond:/ ac„ cordeerd:/ was geteek=:d:/ P: J: Dormieux Accordeerd acccquet de Jang E Clercq No. 47 610 Donderdag Den 27:' April 1739 Voorts is uijt het bedeelde bij der bediendens lot„ teren van den 5: deeser met duijtterste bevreem„ ding beschouwt, dat het Court of het en„ gels Justitie hof te madraspatnam den eijsch van d E: Comp: tegens den boedel van den overleedene ondercoopman en gewesen Bimilipatnams secunde Carel Lode„ wijk Hagemeister ontsegt hadde, met de kosten En dewijl deese Regeering derselver Jnstantie nopens het appelleeren in=en profecutie van dissaak, na het geresolveerde ter sessie van den 28:' maart J=o leeden bij brieven genoomen in raade van Cormandel tot Nagapatnam op Extract uijt de Resolutie Van ƒ
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ample notice was given, it was therefore, upon their requested order in that regard, approved and agreed to refer thereto, and at the same time approved the order given by the Chiefs to Attorney John Sijkes to appeal against that verdict to the Governor and Council of Madras, both for the reasons given by them why they had proceeded to that qualification, as also that the matter in appeal could not turn out worse than it currently was, and also that the costs would be of little or no consequence; but in order to provide the servants, upon their made request, with the further orders of this Government regarding these proceedings, it has to that end all the sooner been resolved to first demand elucidation from the servants that, whenever the sentence of the Court might be approved by the Governor and Council of the 6th of this month, the Chief and 61 would be, how much time one then still has to declare oneself on a further appeal to England; as to which latter point it has been resolved to order the Chiefs not to grant any qualification to the Attorney until further order of this Government. Agrees. Nanequet de Jan P EG Clercq No 48 611 Translation Done at Palliacatta. To the Messrs. P: J: Dormieux and N:s De Joncheere, Chief and Second at Palliacatta. Right Honorable Sirs, I have at this moment been favored with your Honors' letter of the 21st instant, in which your Honors state to have received no answer to your letter of the 30th past accompanying the remittance of one hundred pagodas, desiring at the same time to be informed of the present state of the cause of the Dutch Company, and whether the petition of appeal has been delivered to the Governor and Council: In answer to which I request permission to inform your Honors that I wrote to your Honors on the 31st past, acknowledging the receipt of yours of the 30th with the money that was sent therewith, and informing your Honors that I would appeal the case to the Governor and and Council, as your Honors desired, which I have also carried out in time as was necessary to be done, to which appeal the Executors have this morning delivered an answer, of which I assume to have a copy within a few days, and the decision thereon will depend on the pleasure of the Governor and Council. I am exceedingly sorry that my previous letter to your Honors was not delivered, the contents of which are mentioned hereinabove. I am with perfect respect and esteem, /subscribed:/ Right Honorable Sirs, your Honors' very humble and obedient servant, /signed:/ John Sijkes. /In the margin:/ Fort St George, the 25th of April 1769. /Subscribed:/ Agrees, /signed:/ P: G: J: De Lavallet, sworn writer. Agrees. J Paucquet de Jan EG Clercq 613 A Copy To P: J: Dormieux Esqr. Chief, & Nicholas De Joncheere Esqr. 2d of Council at Pullicat Gentlemen, I am this moment favored with your Letter of the 21th Instant, wherein you say that you have not received an answer to your Letter to me of the 30th ulto accompanying the remittance of one hundred Pagodas, & desiring to be Informed of the present Situation of the Cause of the Netherlands Company and whether the petition of appeal has been delivered to the Governor and Council; In answer to which give me leave to acquaint you that I wrote you on the 31st ultimo acknowledging the receipt of yours of the 30th with the money that accompanied it, and telling you I would appeal the Cause to the Governor and Council, as you Desired, which I did according to the time that I informed you was necessary it should be done, to which the Executors have this morning lodged an answer, a Copy of which I shall have I suppose in a few Days, & the Determination is at the pleasure of the Governor & Council. I am Extremely Sorry my Letter to you miscarried, but you have the purport of it above. /Subscribed:/ Gentlemen, your most obedient humble servant, /signed:/ John Sijkes. /In the margin:/ Fort St George, 25th April 1769. /Subscribed:/ Agrees, /signed:/ G: J: I: De Lavallet, sworn writer. Agrees. Naucquet De Jan EG Clercq No 49 614 To the Right Honorable, the Valiant Sir, Nagapatnam. The Right Honorable, the Valiant Sir Pieter Haksteen, Extraordinary Councillor of Dutch India; as also Governor and Director of this Coast of Coromandel and its dependencies, together with the Honorable Council. Right Honorable, Valiant Sir and Sirs, Just now we received from Attorney Sijkes a letter containing a report regarding the state of affairs concerning the Company's lawsuit, of which we have the honor to present to your Honors herewith a copy and translation. Awaiting furthermore in that regard what your Honors will be pleased to order us, we remain otherwise with due respect, /subscribed:/ Right Honorable, Valiant Sir and Sirs, your Honors' most humble and obedient servants, /signed:/ P: J: Dormieux and N:s De Joncheere. /In the margin:/ Palliacatta, in Castle Geldria, the 25th of April, anno 1769. Agrees. J Hauquet de Jan EG Clercq No. 50. 615. Translation To Messrs. P: J: Dormieux and N:s De Joncheere, Chief and Second at Pallia Catta. Sirs, Having been informed by Mr. Dormieux Senior that your Honors desire to have copies of the petition of Appeal and of the answer thereto in the cause of the Dutch Company and the Executors of the deceased Hagemeister, I now send your Honors the copy thereof. /Subscribed:/ I have the honor to be with much respect, etc. /Subscribed:/ Sirs, your Honors' humble Servant, /signed:/ John Sijkes. /In the margin:/ Fort St George, the 19th of May 1769. /Subscribed:/ Agrees, /signed:/ G: J: I: De Lavallet, sworn writer. Agrees. J Hauquet De Jan EG Clercq
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ampel te kennen gegeeven is, soo is op derselver versogte ordre dienaangaande, goed„ gevonden en verstaan daar aan te refereeren en teffens geapprobeerd der opperh: gegeeven ordre aan den Advocaat John Sijkel, om wee„ gens die uijtspraak naar den gouverneur en Raad van Madras te appelleeren, soo om de door haar gegeevene reedenen, waarom zij tot die qualificaatie getresen waaren, alsoo dat het met de saak in appel niet ergen konde koomen, dan het thans was, en ook dat de kosten van weijnig of geen belang zoude weesen, dog om de bediendens egter of der-selver gedaan versoek met de nadere beveelen deeser Regeering omtrent die procesuu ren te voorzien, is ten dien eijnde al„ Eerder verstaan van de bediendens eerst Elucedatie afte vorderen, dat wanneer het vonnis van 't Court door den Gou„ verneur en Raad geapprobeerd mogte van den 6. ' deeser maand de opperhoofd en werden 61 Werden, hoe veel tijd men dan nog heeft, om zig op een hoger beroep naar engeland te Declareeren, tot welke Laeste ver staan is, de opperh: te gelasten, tot nader ordre deeser Regeering geen qualificatie aan den Advocaat te Geeven Accordeerd Nanequet de Tan P EG Clercq No 48 611 Translaat Cundt te Pallia Catta. AandE heeren P: J: Dormieuxen N=s De Joncheere opperh: en ser„ welEdele Heeren Ik ben op dit ogenblik begunstigd geworden met uw Ed:e brief van den 21. ' deeser, in de wel„ ke uwel Edelens melden geen antwoord ontvan„ gen te hebben, op desselfs brief van den 30. verleden vergesellende de remise van een honderd „pagoosen, begoerende teffens onderrigt te weesen aan de tegenwoordige gesteldheijd Lande saak van de nederlandsche Comp:, en of het geschrift van appel overgeleeverd geworden is aan den gouverneur en raad: Jn antwoord van welke ik verlof versoeke uw Ed:e te bedeelen, dat ik op den 31: verleeden, aan uw Ed. s geschreven heb, bekennende den ontvang van desselfs van den 30. ' met het geld dat daar nevens gesonden was, en berigtende aan uwel Ed: dat ik over de saak zoude appelleeren aan den gouverneur en en Raad, gelijk uwel Ed:s begeerden welk ik ook betragt heb tegens de tijd dat zulx noodsakelijk moeste geschieden, of welk appel de Executeurs deese morgen een ant woord ingeleeverd hebben, van welk ik ver„ onderstollen binnen Weijnige dagen een Copij te zullen hebben, en 't besluijt daar op zal afhangen van 't Welbehagen van den gouverneur en raad het is mij ten uijttersten leed dat mijn vorige brief aan uwel Ed=s niet besteld ge„ worden is, waar van den inhoud hier boven gemeld staat Jk ben met volmaakte respect en ag„ sting /:onderstond wel Edele heeren uwel Edelens zeer onderdanige en gehoorsame dienaar /:was get=t:/ John Sijkes /:in margine:/ fort / Grorge den 25.:' april 1769 /:onderstond:/ Accordeert /:was geteek=d:/ P: G f) De Lavallet G: Schiler Accordeert Te Paucquet de Jan EG Clercq 613 a Copi Nicholas De Toricheere Esg=s 2: of Council at Pullicat To P: J: Dormieux Esgr. Chieff, & Sam this moment favoierd with your Letter of the 21th Instant, wherein you say that you have not received arvans¬ wer to your Letter to mo of the 30 ulto accompanying the remittance of one hundred Pagodas, & desiring to be Informed of the present Situation of the Cause of the Netherlands Company and whether the pettition of appeal has been delivered to the Governor and Council; In answer to which give me leave to acquaint you that Twrote you ove the 31=m ultimoacknowled ging the receipt of yours of the 30th. with the moneij that accompanijd it, and telling you Iwould appeal the Cause Gerithemen to. to the governor and Council, als you Desired which I did according to the time that I informed you, was necessary it should be done, to which the Executors have this morning Loeijd an answer, a Copy of which I shall & have I suppose in affem¬ Days, &c the Determination is at the pleasure of the Governor & Council Jam Extreemly Sorrij my Letter to you miscarried, but you have the parpost of it above /:onderstond:/ gentle„ men your most obedient humble ser¬ vant /:was geteekend:/ John Sijkel /:in margine:/ Fort S=t George 25=en April 1769 /:onderstond:/ Accordeerd /:was geteeckennd:/ G: f: I: De Ravalthh Gerfet: scriba Accordeerd Naucquet De Jan E Clercq J W val N 49 614 Aan Den wel Edelen Gestrengen heer. Nagapatnam. Den welEd: gestr: heer Pieter Aansteen. — lextua-ordinaire Raad van Neederlands Jndia; mitsg=s gouverneur en directeur deeser Custe Cormandel met den Resorte van dien N„o K„e Nevens den agtb: raad. Wel Edele Gestr: heer en heeren So Even ontfangen we van den advocaat sijkes een brief, die berigt behelft weeg=s de gesteldheijd van de saaken het Comp„s Proces betreffende waar van gesix we ons d' eene geven uwelEd:s in deesen Copij en trans„ laat aen te bieden. Dienaangaande wijders verwagtende uwelEd: gestr: zullen gelieven goedvinden ons te ordonneeren wij noemen ons overigens met het verschuldigt res„ pect /:onderstond:/ welEd: gestr: heer en heeren UwelEd: gestr: alleronderdaanigste en gehoorsaame dienaaren /:was geteekend:/ P: J: Dormieux, en N=s De Joncheere /:Jnmargine:/ palliacatta Jnt Casteel Geldria, den 25„e April, anno 1769. — Accordeerd J Hamguet de Vane E Clercq No. 50. 615. No 49. Mand Heeren P: I: Dormieux En N:s De Joncheere opperhoofd en secunde tot Pallia Catta Mijn Heeren Van den heer Dormieux sen=r onderrigt ge„ worden zijnde, dat Uwel Edelens Copijen begeeren te hebben, van de petitie van Appel en van 't antwoord daar op in de saak van de nederlandsche Compagnie en der Executeurs van den overleedenen zend ik uwel Edelens Hagemeester nu de Copij daar van toe /:onderstond./ ik heb de eere met veel Eerbied te sijn &=a /:onderstond:/ mijn heeren uw Ed: onderda„ nige Dienaar /:was geteek=t:/ ft John Sijkes /:in margine:/ fort. „ George den 19.:' Meij 1769 /:onderstond./ Accord=t /was get:/ G fJ De Ravallet J: schriba - Accordeerd J Hauquet De Jan Translaat EG Clercq
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616 To P: I: Dormieux Esq:r Chief & Nicholas De Joncheere Esq=r 2:d of Council at Pullicate Having been informed by M:r Dormieux Senior that you desired to have copies of the petition of appeal & answer to it in the cause of the Netherlands Company & the executors of the deceased Hagemeister, I now send you copies thereof. I have the honor to be with much respect, Gentlemen, your most obedient & most humble servant. Signed: John Sykes. Fort S:t George, 19th May 1769. Agreed. Signed: G. F. I: De Ravallet, sworn clerk. Agreed: Hauquet De Jan EG Clerk No 51. 617 Translation of a letter addressed to the Chiefs of Palliacatta. Honorable Sirs, I have been honored with your letter of the 19th of this month, wherein you request to be informed in a clear and distinct manner how much time you have to appeal to England, in case the decree of the Mayors Court in the cause of the Netherlands Company against the executors of Hagemeister should be confirmed by the Governor and Council as a Court of Appeals, etc. In answer to which I inform you that the time allowed for appealing to England from any decree of the Court of Appeals is one month from the time that such a decree is made, and as I observed to you in my letter of the 10th of March, it will in case of such an appeal be necessary to give security for the interest and costs that may accrue on account of such an appeal. This security must be entered into by some sufficient persons on behalf of the Company before one of the judges of the Court of Appeals here, and must be filed with the Clerk of Appeals. The costs of this appeal will be considerable, and it will also be necessary, in order to carry on the cause on behalf of the Netherlands Company, to appoint someone in London to whom such papers as may be necessary for that purpose should be sent. Current coin will also be necessary to carry on the cause there. Having, I think, informed you pretty clearly and distinctly, and I hope to your satisfaction, of that which you requested, I remain with much respect and esteem, Honorable Sirs, your obedient and humble servant. Signed: John Sykes. Fort St. George, the 22nd of May 1769. Agreed: JHauquet De Jan EG Clerk 618 To P: I: Dormieux Esq: Chief & Nicholas De Joncheere Esq:r 2:d of Council at Pullicate I am favored with your letter of the 19th instant, wherein you request to be informed in a clear & distinct manner how much time you have to appeal to England in case the decree of the Mayors Court in the cause of the Netherlands Company against the executors of Hagemeister should be confirmed by the Governor & Council as a Court of Appeals, etc. In answer to which I acquaint you that the time allowed for appealing to England from any decree of the Court of Appeals is one month from the time of such decree being made, and as I observed to you in my letter of the 10th of March it will, in case of such an appeal, be necessary to give security for the interest and costs that may accrue on account of such appeal. This security must be entered into by some sufficient person on behalf of the Company, before one of the judges of the Court of Appeals here & must be filed with the Clerk of Appeals. The charges of this appeal will be considerable here, Gentlemen, and it will also be necessary to appoint somebody in London to carry on the cause on behalf of the Company, to whom such papers as may be necessary for that purpose should be sent. Cash will also of course be necessary to carry it on there. Having, I think, pretty clearly & distinctly & I hope to your satisfaction acquainted you with what you request, I remain with much respect & esteem, Gentlemen, your most obedient humble servant. Signed: John Sykes. Fort S.t George, 22nd May 1769. Agreed. Signed: G: F: I: De Ravallet, sworn clerk. Agreed: Hauquet De Jan EG Clerk 619 No. 52. Petition. To the Honorable Charles Bourchier, Esquire, Governor of Fort St. George, etc., together with the Council, in the Court of Appeals. Between the Netherlands East India Company of Holland, through their agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, and the Reverend John Philip Fabricius, Danish missionary of Vepery, and John Calland of Madras, merchant, executors of the estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, junior merchant in the service of the aforesaid East India Company and second of Bimilipatnam, being a possession of the aforesaid East India Company. The humble petition of appeal of the aforesaid Dutch East India Company through their aforesaid agent, That the petitioners, through their aforesaid agent, on or about the 27th of the month of April of the year of our Lord 1762, filed a bill of complaint in the Honorable Mayors Court of Madraspatnam against the above-mentioned John Philip Fabricius and John Calland as executors of the aforesaid deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, showing therein that the aforesaid John Philip Fabricius and John Calland, as executors as aforesaid, owed to the petitioners on account of the aforesaid Company a sum of thirteen thousand two hundred and sixty pagodas, as would appear more fully by the annexed account to which reference was made, with the request that the aforesaid John Philip Fabricius and John Calland might be condemned to pay to the petitioners the aforesaid sum of 13260 pagodas, with that already accrued thereon
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616 Io P: I: Dormieux Esg:r Chieff N Nicholas De foncheere Esg=r 2: of Council af Pullicate staving been Informed bij M:r Dormieur Senr that ijou desired to have Copies of the Petition of appeal & answer to it the Cause of the Nitherlands Companij & the Executors of the Deceased Hage„ meister I now send you Copies thereof Ihave the Honor to be with much Respect /:onderstond:/ Genthemerd/ /:lager:/ your most obedient & most hum„ ble servant /:was geteekend:/ John Sijkes /:in margine:/ Fort S:t George 19=ten Moij 1769. /:onderstond:/ Accordeerd /:was Geteekend/ G f I: De Ravallet gesuscriba Accordeerd aucquet De Van Gentlemen EG Clercq : No 51. 617 Oversetting Eener brief geaddresseert aan de opperhoofden van Pallia Catta WelEdele Heeren Jk ben vereerd geworden met uwE: brief van den 19. ' deeser, waar bij uwE:s versoeken, om op eene klaare en onderscheijdentlijke wijse onderrigt te worden, hoe veel tijd uw E: hebben om naar engeland te beroepen, ingevalle het besluijt aan het geregte hof in de zaak van de nederlandse maatschappij tegens de Execateurs van hage„ meester bevestigd wierd bij den gouverneur en raad als een Hof van appel &: Jn antwoord van het welke ik uw Ed:s verwittigen, dat den G'oorloff om tijd naar engeland te beroepen, van eenig besluijt van 't hof van appel, een maand is van den tijd af dat sulx een besluijt genoomen is, en gelijk ik uwE: aangemerkt heb, bij mijne missive van den 10:' maart zult in Cas van zulk s. appel nodig weesen om borg te stellen, voor 't intrest en de kosten die toeneemen mogen mogen, of reekening van sulk een appel, deese berg„ zogt moeten betreeden worden, door eenige vermo„ gende persoonen, ten behoeve van de maat„ schappij, voor een van de regters van het hof van appel alhier, en moest vervult worden met de Clercq van appel; de onkosten van dit appel zullen aanmerkelijk zijn en 't sal ook nodig wee„ zen, om de zaak ten behoeve van de nederlandsche maatschappij aan te voeren, imand in London aan testellen, aan wien sulke papieren, als tot dien eijnde nodig mogte zijn, moeten toegesonden worden, Gangbaare specie sal ook nodig sijn om die zaak daar aan te voeren Hebbende ik denk reedelijk klaar vnder, en on¬ der scheijdentlijk, en tot uwel Ed:s genoegen hoope ik vw Ed:s van het geen verwittigd, daar uwE: om versogte Verblijve ik met veel eerbied en agting d=a /:onderstond:/ wel Edele heeren /:Lager:/ uwE: onderd: en gek: dienaar /:was get/ Gt Ct. George John Sijkes /:en margin:/ Fort Den 22' Meij 1769 Accordeerd JHauguet De Jan EG Clercq 618 Io P: I: Dormieux Esq: Chief & Nicholas De Joncheere Esq:r 2:d of Council at Pullicate Jam favord with your letter of the 19thn Instant, wherin you request to be Informed in â Clear & dis¬ tinct manner how much time you have to appeal to England in Case the decree of the Majors Court in the Cause of the Netherlands Companij against the Executors of Hagemeister should be Confirmed bij the governor & Council as a Court of appeaes &c: In answer to which Jacquaint you that the time allowed for appealing to England from anij decree of thee Court of appeals is one month from the time of such decree being made, and as I observed to you in mij letter of the w0th march it will, in Case of such an a ppeal, beneces sarij te give securitij for the Intrest and Costs chat maij accrue on acarar account of such appeal: This securitij must be Enterd into bij some suffi„ cient person on behalf of the Companij, before one of the Judges of the Court of a ppeals here & must be filed with the Clerk of appeals the Charges of this appeal will be Considerabel here, Gentleman and and it will also be necessarij, to appoint somebodij in london to Carrij on the Cause on behalf of the Companij, to whom such papers as maij be necessari for that purpose should besent, Cash will also of Course be necessarij to Carrij it on there Having PMink prettij clearlij & distinctly & I hope to your satisfaction acquainted you with what you request I: remain with mutch respect & Esteem /:onderstond:/ gentlemen /:lager:/ your most obe„ dient humble servant /:was geteekend:/ John Sijsles /:Jn margine/ Fort s.t george 22:e May 1769. /onderstond:/ accordeerd /:was geteekend:/ g: f: S: De Ravallet gesw: scriba. Accordeerd Nanequet De Jan EG Clercq bodi sar & Aly & May 9: f: 3: 619 No. 52. verthoog. Aan Den Wel Edelen Charles Bour„ Chier schildknaap en gouverneur van het Fort C=ts George &=a Neevens den Raad Tusschen de hablaned sebver oost¬ indische Comp: van holland door haar zaak besorgen Da„ niel Bartholomeus Truter En den Eerw: John Philip fabricius teansch missiona„ ris Van Wepere, en John Kalland, van madras, koopman, Executeurs van de nalatenschap van den over„ „ledenen Charles Louis Hage„ meister onder Coopman in dienst van voorm: oostinsische Comp: en tweede van bimilip=m. zijnde een bezitting van voorm: oostindische Comp: 'T Nedrig Request van appel van de Jn't hof van Appel voorm: aff voorm: hollandsche oostindsche Comp: door haaren voorm: zaak bezorgers Dat De supplianten bij haaren voorm: zaak besor„ gers omtrent den 27:' van de maand April van den Jaare onses heeren 1762. , een klagt„ schrift int honorable majoors hof van „hebben madraspatnam ingedient „ teegens de bovenge„ J„ en John Pallantt melde John Philip fabricius „ als executeurs van den voorm: overt: Charles Louis Hagemeister, daar bij vertoonende dat voorm: John Philip fabricius, en John Cal¬ land als executeurs als hier vooren is ge„ zegt; aan de supplianten voor reekening van de voorm: Comp: een somma van Dertien Duijzend twee hondert en sestig pagoosen schuldig was, als breeder blijken zoude bij de „daar bij „geannexceerde Reek:, waar aan men sig refereerde met versoek dat voorm: John Philip fabriceus en John Calland, mog„ te werden Gecondemneerd aan de sup„ plianten de voorm: somma van 13260. pag: te betaalen, met den daar op reeds.
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already accrued and still to accrue interest together with the legal costs. To which aforementioned complaint the aforementioned John Philip Fabricius and John Calland have shown in their answer that they could see no ground that the estate of the aforementioned deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister could be indebted to the complainants as they laid down in their aforementioned complaint, being as a claim, for they had examined the books of the deceased and could not perceive that the petitioners had any reason for such a claim upon the aforementioned estate; and particularly the aforementioned executors allege in their answer concerning the first article or charge in the petitioners' account annexed to the aforementioned complaint of ƒ8732. 8. 8. for an overcharge made by the aforementioned deceased in his administration, and which he had been ordered by the Council of Nagapatnam on 18 June 1761 to refund, that they were in the highest degree astonished why that matter had not been settled before the aforementioned deceased was permitted to leave Bimilipatnam, taking their advantage in this defence of the error committed in the account annexed to the complaint of the petitioners, in which the orders of the government of Nagapatnam are mentioned to be 18 January instead of 18 June 1761, and from which they conclude that if there had been such a claim upon him, the chief would not have tolerated his having left Bimilipatnam in June, it being, as they say, from the aforementioned error so long a time from the date of the aforementioned order; and that the petitioners merely saying that it was an overcharge which was ordered by the Council of Nagapatnam that the aforementioned Hagemeister had to refund, is no argument that the aforementioned John Philip Fabricius and John Calland should pay it, without the petitioners giving sufficient reasons why it was an overcharge, since the chief of Bimilipatnam had settled with the deceased about eight days before his departure from there; and they also allege that although such a debt does not appear in the books of the deceased, they can find no reasons that would oblige the estate of the aforementioned Hagemeister to satisfy this claim. As regards the second article or charge in the petitioners' aforementioned account on account of a deficiency of 7501½ lb. of Surat cotton which came to light at the delivery to his successor in that service of that article which was then under his responsibility, belonging to the petitioners; the aforementioned J. P. Fabricius and John Calland say that they cannot admit this charge, because the account of the delivery of the aforementioned Company's stock to his successor, signed by the same and by two other gentlemen who were ordered to be present there on the part of the aforementioned Company, proves that the aforementioned deficiency was lost during the blockade of the factory on top of the rampart and the batteries of the fort. That concerning the third article or charge in the petitioners' aforementioned account of ƒ27083. 19., being the balance of the amount of the net purchase price with 25 percent thereon, together with deduction of the amount that has been sold, of a loss originally on 135430 lb. of cotton under the responsibility of the said C. L. Hagemeister, and which loss occurred through his negligence; the aforementioned J. P. Fabricius and John Calland claim in their aforementioned answer that a great error was committed by the petitioners in the quantity of the aforementioned cotton, it being only 111319 13/16 lb., so that they claim that the petitioners have overcharged the aforementioned Hagemeister by 24101 3/16 lb., and say they cannot admit that the loss on a part of that cotton occurred through negligence of the aforementioned Hagemeister, because they find in the aforementioned account of the delivery of the stock that these two gentlemen have given a declaration regarding the cause of the aforementioned damage, and without making any mention regarding the negligence of the said Hagemeister, that a large part, that is, various bales had become spoiled and soiled by the spreading thereof on the batteries and the ramparts of the fort, as also the packing linen and cordage rotted in the straw huts, and the cotton damaged on one side two or three inches, and rendered unfit for spinning. And since the damage suffered to that cotton occurred by spreading it on the ramparts and the batteries of the fort at the time of the blockade, consequently it is not to be attributed to the negligence of the aforementioned Hagemeister; and regarding the remainder of the cotton, it can also not be attributed to the negligence of the aforementioned Hagemeister, but to the lack of more proper places than straw huts to store it in, and therefore the estate of the deceased is not responsible for it; and they say that the cotton may have lain in the straw huts for a multitude of years, and if so, it must have greatly contributed to its rotting and unfitness for spinning. Regarding the fourth and last article or charge in the petitioners' account annexed to their aforementioned document for a third part out of the outstanding debit owed to the petitioners at the time that he left Bimilipatnam
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620 reesl verloopene en nog te verloopene intrest neevens de proces ongelden Op welk voorm: klagtschrift den voorm: John Philip fabricius, en John Calland in haar antwoort verthoond hebben dat zij met geen grond konde sien dat de nalatenschap van voorm: overl: Charles Louis hagemeisters schuldig Cou„ de weesen aan de klagers zoo als zij 't bij haar voorm: klagtschrift zijnde, als eenen Eijsch, ter nederstelden, want dat zij de boeken van den overl: nage„ gaan hadden, en niet konde bespeuren, dat de supplianten eenige reeden van een sodanige Eijsch op de voorm: nalatenschap hadden en wel voornamentlijk allegee„ ren voorm: Executeurs in haar ant„ woord Concerneerende het Eerste ar„ ticul of belasting in de reecq: van de supplianten g'annexeerd aan voorm: klagtschrift van ƒ8732. 8. 8. voor een een meerder belasting door den voorm: over„ leedenen in zijn verrigting gedaan, en de„ welke hij g'ordonneerd was geworden door den raad van Nagap=m den 18. Junij 1761. weder te moeten vergoeden, dat sij ten hoog„ ten verwonderd waaren waarom die saak niet vereffens was geworden voor dat den voorm: overleedenen geper„ mitteerd wierd bimilip=m te verlaten, nae„ mende haar voordeel van deese ver„ weering van den begaane abuijs in de resca g'annexceerd aan het klagtschrift van de supplianten waar in de orders van de Regiering van nagap=n gementioneerd ik, te zijn den 18 Janu: in steede van den 18' Junij 1761. en waar uijt besluijten dat indien er een zodanig Eijs op hem geweest was het opperhooft niet gedult zoude hebben, dat hij in Junij bimilip=n hadde verlaten, zijnde, zoo zij seggen van 't voorm: abuijs Zoo J. 6. 621 zoo lang een tijd van de Datum van voorm: ondre, en dat de supplianten bloot seggen dat het een meerder belas„ ting die door den raad van nagap=n g'ordonneerd was dat voorm: hagemeister moeste vergoeden, is geen argument, dat voorm: John Philip fabricius en John Callant het soude betaalen, zonder dat de supplianten sufficante reedenen gaaven, waar„ om het een meerder belasting was, dewijl het opperhoofd van bimilit=m vereffend hadde met den overleedenen om streeks agt dagen voor sijn vertrek vandaar, en zij allegeeren almeede dat schoon eene zodanige schuld bij de boe„ ken van den overl: niet bekend staat, sij geene reeden konnen vinden, die de nalaten„ schap van voorm: hagemeister verpligte zoude desen eijsch te voldoen; wat aangaat gten het tweede articul: off belasting inder Cupp=ten voorm: reecq: wegens een minderheijd van 7501½ lb: Couratse Cattoen het welk ten voor„ schijn quam bij de Leverantie aan sijn succes„ sseur in dien dienst van dat artikel die toen toen onder zijn verantwoording was, behoorende aan de supplianten; zeggen voorm: I: P: fabricius en John Calland dat sij deese belasting niet admitteeren kunnen, om dat de ree„ kening van de leverantie van den voor„ Comp: aan sijn succes„ raad van voorm: seur door den selven en door twee andere heero die g'ordonneerd waaren daar present bij te weesen aan de sijde van de voorm: Comp: geteekend hadde, bewijst, dat de voorm: minderheijd bij de blokkade van de factorij boven op de wal en de batterije van 't fort verlooren was, Dat Concerneerende het derde articul of belasting in der supplianten voorm: Reek: van ƒ27083. 19. sijnde de ballanse van het montant van de suijvere inkoop met 25. pCente daarop, te samen met afkorting van 't montant dat Verkogt is van een verlies oorspronkelijk op 135430. lb: Cattoen onder verandwoording van gem: C: L: Hagemeister, en welk verlies door sijn Nagligentie geschied is, voorm: I: P: fabriciul, en John Calland pretendeeren in haar voorm: antwoord 622 ter antwoord dat 'er een groot abuijs bij de suppn in de quantiteijt van voorm: Cattoen in be„ gaan is, als zijnde alleen maar 111319 13/16 lb: ten zoo dat sij pretendeeren dat de suppten. voorm: Hagemeister met 2410 1/16 lb: te veel belast, hebben, en seggen niet te kunnen toestaan dat het verlies op een gedeelte van dat Cattoen geschied is door negligentie van voorm: hage„ meester, om dat sij vinden in de voorm reecq: den Leverantie van den voorraad dat deese twee hee¬ ren een verklaaring gegeeven hebben, wegens de oorsaak van de voorm: Chade, en zonder eenige mentie te maken weg:s de negligentie van gem: Hagemeister dat een groot gedeelte, dat is, diverse balen bedurven en vijl waaren geworden, door het verspreijden daar van op de batterijen en de wallen, van het fort, als meede het pak lijwaaten en touwerk in de strooijhuijsen verrot, en het Cattoen aan deene sijde twee of drie duijmen beschadigt, en, onbequaam tot het spinnen geworden wal„ En „ en dewijl de geleedene schade van dat Cattoen door het verspreijden op de wallen en de bat„ terijen van 't fort inde tijd vande blokkade ge„ schied is, gevolglijk is het niet toe te schrij„ ven aan de negligentie van voorm: Hage„ meister; en wegens het overige van t Cattoen kan het meede aan de negligentie van voorm hagemeister niet g'attribueerde worden, maar aan het ontbreeken van behoorlijker, plaatsen dan stroohuijsen om die daar inne te bergen„ en dierhalven is de nalatenschap van den overleedene daar niet responsabel voor, en seg¬ gen dat het Cattoen in de stroohuijsen me„ nigte Jaaren mogte Leegen hebben, so Ja moet het grootelijx tot haare verrotting en onbequaamheijd tot het spinnen Gecontribueerd hebben Betreffende het vierde en laaste articul of belasting inder supp=te reecq: g'annexceerd en aan haar voorm: geschrift voor een derde part uijt van den staande debet aan de supplianten ver„ schuldigt in de tijd dat hij bimilip=m. ver¬ liet
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623 left, which according to a steadfast rule of the petitioners, the deceased had to take on his own account; the aforementioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland claim in their answer that such is unreasonable as none of the same to their knowledge was contracted by the aforementioned deceased, and even if it were so, they claim that it must have been to the benefit of the petitioners, and what the deceased received could have no benefit, but the furtherance of the petitioners' interest, and having occurred by the direction and approval of the chief of the factory, these are designated as argumentative reasons why the aforementioned debts were outstanding and contracted, at the same time it appears from what they further say about the uncertainty that such debts would exist or from the time that they were contracted, that they had entirely no knowledge of the circumstances that accompanied it; the aforementioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland further say in their answer that they are very ready to pay all reasonable debts that the deceased's estate might owe, but those which the petitioners claim in their demand appear not to be such, but to have been fabricated after the deceased's death, by which the petitioners are pleased to permit that they be regarded as mere evasions. To which answer the petitioners have submitted a replication through their aforementioned attorney, in which they conformed to their aforementioned bill of complaint, and further say that although what aforementioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland allege that upon examining the books of the aforementioned deceased they cannot find that the petitioners can bring any charge against his estate, nevertheless the petitioners do not doubt to produce in due time to the noble Court of Justice sufficient proof of their principal demand, 624 demand, and which the petitioners think they have done, humbly hoping that this Noble Court will be of the same opinion, and especially with regard to the first item or charge in the account annexed to the mentioned bill of complaint of the petitioners of f 8732. 8. 8. of which aforementioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland seem, according to their allegation in aforementioned answer, to be ignorant of the origin of this item; the petitioners in their aforementioned replication state that during the blockade of the aforementioned settlement of Bimlipatam various items of provisions were purchased for the service of the garrison, the account of those expenditures belonged under the aforementioned Hagemeester, which account upon examination at Nagapatnam was found to be overcharged in various items mentioned therein up to the aforementioned amount, and as the aforementioned deceased C: L: Hagemeester, in accordance with the nature of his service and the established custom of the petitioners, was accountable to to the petitioners for the overcharges, as can appear from such an account in which he was ordered to write them off by order of the council at Nagapatnam dated the aforementioned 18th day of June 1761, and not the 18th of January, which was an error in the aforementioned document as mentioned before, as would appear from an authentic extract thereof, which the petitioners would produce in due time, so that it could in no way seem like a mystery, as the mentioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland represent it in their mentioned answer: that the successor of the aforementioned deceased would have permitted him to leave the aforementioned settlement at a time when he had received the aforementioned order from Nagapatnam, which did not arrive until after his departure; as regards the item of f 2885. 7. 8. for a deficiency of 450½ lb of Surat cotton, the petitioners have constantly maintained in their aforementioned replication the justice and fairness 625 of the aforementioned charge, saying that they could not admit the pretexts which aforementioned Fabricius and John Calland used concerning the mentioned deficiency of the aforementioned cotton being spread out on the rampart and battery, which is merely an imaginary method of calculation for this deficiency, nor is the account mentioned by mentioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland as having been signed by his successor sufficient proof to support this fact, for if that had truly been the case, and the deceased had wished to prevent this dispute, it would have been his unavoidable duty to bring such to the knowledge of the gentlemen of that settlement immediately after the blockade was over, and not to have neglected such a principal item until the time that he was ordered to hand over the aforementioned goods to his successor, who undoubtedly did his best to explain this deficiency in the most favorable manner, but this, without being further supported by other authentic evidence, the petitioner presumes, would be of no significance in the judgment of the mentioned Mayor's Court, and the petitioners constantly presume and hope that the same would carry no weight with this honorable Court. Concerning the item of 135430 lb of damaged cotton through the negligence of the aforementioned deceased, the petitioners in their aforementioned replication deny that they had committed an error in the quality of the mentioned item, as aforementioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland say; for the item of 11139 1/15 lb has not the least connection with the abovementioned item for which the estate of the mentioned deceased is charged, nor has any demand been made for the same, nor was the aforementioned cotton, for the damage of which the petitioners demanded satisfaction, spread out on the rampart and battery or stored in straw houses and spoiled thereby, as the aforementioned J: P: Fabricius and John Calland alleged, but the petitioner said in her Replication.
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623 liet, het welk volgens een standvastige reegel van de supplianten, den overl: op sijn eijge reecq: moest neemen; de voorm: I: P: Fabricius, en John Colland pretendeeren in haar antwoord dat sulx onreedelijk is als geene derselve bij haar kennisse door voorm: overleedenen g'Contract= is, en al was het zoo, pretendeeren zij dat het geweest moest zijn ten voordeelen van de supplianten, en 't geen den overl: ontfangen konde geen voordeel hadde, maar de bevor„ dering van der supp=te intrest, en geschied sijn„ de per de directie en approbatie van het opper„ hoofd van d' factorij, deese bestemmen sijn als argumenteele reeden waarom de voorm: schulden uijtstaande en Contract=s waaren, ter zelver tijd blijkt het bij het geen sijn verder seggen van de onseekerheijd dat en zodanige schulden zouden sijn of vande tijd dat zij g'Contract=s zoude weesen, dat zij daar in 't geheel geen kennisse van de omstandigheeden die daar bij geweest zijn hadden; de voorm: J: P: fabricius, en John Calland Colland zeggen verders in haar antw: dat zij seer gereet zijn alle billike schulden die des overl. nalatenschap schuldig mogte wesen, te voldoen, maar die der suppten bij haaren eijsch pretenteeren blijken zodanig niet te weesen maar opgemaakt is nades overl=ds door 't geen de suppten. gelieven te permitteeren dat men deselve aanmerkt als enkelde uijt„ vlugten— Tot welk antw: de supp=ten bij haar voorm: zaak besorger en replicq ingediend hebben bij dewelke sij zig aan haar voorm: klagtschrij g'Conformeerd hebben, en seggen verders dat schoon wat voorm: J: P: fabricius en John Calland allegeeren dat bij naga„ ning der boeken van de voorm: overledenen sij niet vinden kunnen dat de supp=ten eenige belasting op sijne nalatenschap brengen kunn, nog thans twijffelen de supp=ten niet in be„ hoorlijker tijd aan 't eedele hof van Justitie sufficante preuve van haaren Koorm Eijsch 624 Eijsch te zullen produceeren, en 't welk de Cupp=t denken gedaan te hebben, nedrig hoopende dat dit Edele hof: van deselve opinie zullen sijn, en speciaal ten regarde van het F'articul of belasting in de reecq. g'annexceerd aan 't Vermelde klagtschrift der suppten van X waar van voorm: J: P: Fabricius, ƒ 8732. 8. 8. en John Calland schijnen volgens haar voorgeeven in voorm. antw. ignorant te weesen ten waar door dit articul zijn oorspronk had; de Cupten in haar voorm: replicq setten ten needer dat op de blokkade van voorm: bezitting van bimilig=m er verscheijdene articulen van provisien ge„ kogt waaren, ten dienste van 't guarnisoen de roecq: van die s uijtgaven behoorden onder de voorm: hagemoester, welke reecq: op Examinatie te nagap=n te veel beswaard wierd bevonden in diverse ar Criticulen daarin g'mentioneerd tot het bovengem: montant, en alsoo den voorm: overl: C: L: Hagemeester Conform d' natuur van sijn dienst en de gestabileerde gewoonte van de suppten. verantwoordelijk was, aan aan de versoekers voor de meerdere belastingen, gelijk als blijken kan daar bij een zodanige reecq: Waar in hij gelast was, deselve afte schrijven ter ordre van den raad te nagap=n gedateerd den voorm: 18: dag van Junij 1761. en niet den 18r Jann:, het welk een abuijs was, in der voorm: schriftuur als bevoorens suffr. t is g'mentioneerd, gelijk blijken soude bij een ten autenticq Extract daar van, welke de Juff in behoorlijke tijd, zoude produceeren, zoo dat 't in genendeele als een misterie konde schijnen, Zoo als 't gem: J: P: fabricius, en John Calland het representeeren in haar verm: antw: dat den sucesseur van voorm: overl: hem geper„ mitteerd zoude hebben weg te gaan van voorm: bezitting in een tijd wanneer hij voorm: ordre van Nagap=m ontfangen hadden, het welk niet eer als na zijn vertrek arriveerde, wat belangd het articul van ƒ 2885. 7. 8. voor een minderheijd van r=o 450½ lb: Coerat s Cattoen, hebben de supp=ten steeds in haar voorm. replicq staande gehouden de geregtigheijd en billik„ heijd 625 heijd van de voorm: belasting, zeggende dat sij niet konde admitteeren de voorwendselen die voorm: fabricius en John Calland gebruijkte over de verm: minderheijd van 't voorm: Cattoen zijnde uijtgespreijd op de Wal en batterij, het welk alleen een ingebeelde metode van be„ rekening is, voor deese minderheijd is, nog is de reecq: gementioneerd bij verm: J: P: fabricius en John Calland als door zijn successeur geteekend geweest zijnde, geen sufficante proef omditfeijt te ondersteunen, want indien dat waarlijk het geval geweest was, en de overl: gewenscht hadden dit plaidoij voorte koomen, was 't zijn onvermijdelijke zaak geweest om zulx ten eersten ter ken„ nis te brengen nadat de blokkada over was, aan d' heeren van die besitting en soo een voor„ naame articul niet agtergelaten te hebben tot den tijd dat hij g'ordonneerd wierd de voorm: goederen aan sijn vervanger over te geeven, de„ welke sonder twijfel al sijn best gedaan heeft, om dese minderheijd op het favorabelste uijt„ „te te leggen, maar dit sonder meerder onderschraagd de sujpster te worden van andere autenticque bewijsen, die proesumeert de Copp=n van geen belang in't oordeel van verm: majoors hof zoude sijn, en de suppten steds prezie„ meeren, en hoopen dat deselve van geen ge„ wigt bij dit honorable hof hebben zoude - Belangende het articul van 135430 lb: be„ schadigde Cattoen door de negligentie van voorm: overleedenen supp=ten in haar voorm: Roplicq ontkennen dat sij een abuijs begaan hadden in de Qualiteijt van gem: articul, zoo als voorm: J: P: fabricius en John Calland zegge: want het articul van 11139 1/15. lb: heeft geen de minste Connextie met het bovengemelde articul, waar voor de nalatenschap van gem: overl: belast is, nog i'er geen Eijs voor dezelve gedaan, nog was 't voorm: Cattoen voor wel„ kers beschadiging de supp=te Catisfactie Eijste op de wal en batterij uijtgespreijd of in stroohuij„ zen geborgen en daar door bedorven zoo als het voorn: J: P: fabricius en John Callans voorgaeven, maar de supp=t zeijke in haar Replicq.
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Reply, just as they further say that the aforesaid Cotton was stored in proper warehouses suitable for that purpose, in the aforesaid possession belonging to the Captains, and that the damage was indeed suffered there through the negligence and bad management of the aforesaid deceased. And regarding the last Article demanded by the petitioners, being one third part of the outstanding debts due at that time, and which debts, before C:L: Hagemeister together with the head of the aforesaid factory took them upon themselves at the commencement of their services in accordance with the custom of the petitioners, were and are their responsibility; nevertheless, the petitioners say in their aforesaid reply that they would be prepared to return to the aforesaid I: P: Fabricius and John Calland the amount of such portion thereof as could be recovered, if any such could be. To which reply the aforesaid J: P: Fabricius and John Calland submitted a rejoinder, attempting thereby to evade the justice of the petitioners' claim upon the aforesaid estate. Upon this prosecution in law, arguments were produced and publications made, and the case having come to a hearing on the 20th day of March of this present Year of our Lord 1769, the honorable Mayor's Court was of the opinion that the petitioners had not made or produced the least proof in support of any of their claims upon the aforesaid estate; therefore the aforesaid court ordered and decreed that the petitioners' claim should be dismissed, with costs, as will more fully and broadly appear from the judgment of the aforesaid court, annexed hereto for the inspection of this honorable court. From which aforesaid judgment the petitioners appeal to this honorable court, as they understand the same to be very erroneous, for the reasons cited above and specially brought forward in the aforesaid trial; and further, concerning the First article or charge made by the Plaintiff upon the estate of the aforesaid deceased, the petitioners, in order to properly prove the justice thereof, have produced: Copies of the aforesaid deceased's account authenticated by the secretary of the petitioners' President and Council of Nagapatnam, together with the Resolution of the aforesaid President and Council. Pursuant thereto, and from the knowledge which they had obtained in another manner regarding the aforesaid transactions, extracts authenticated by their secretary, whereby the petitioners understand it clearly appears that the aforesaid excess charge was made in the aforesaid Account, and consequently that the estate of the aforesaid deceased must be responsible for the same to the petitioners. And the petitioners submit to this honorable court how far the Resolution taken by the petitioners' aforesaid President and Council, who have the care, administration, and supreme authority of all the affairs on the Coast of Coromandel, would stand as good as it is binding, and how far the same is a demonstration of the justice of their aforesaid claim regarding the aforesaid excess charge for the reasons cited before. And whereas the aforesaid President and Council are men of honor and credit, and could have no private interest in ordering the restitution of a sum that was overcharged, but rather that justice shall be done to the petitioners, in that they were authorized to order the restitution of a sum which the deceased had overcharged and received on account from the treasury of the petitioners. And the petitioners likewise submit to this honorable court the justice of that part of the aforesaid Judgment wherein it is stated that it appears to the court that the petitioners have not produced the least proof in support of their claim made upon the estate of the aforesaid deceased, and pursuant thereto judge that their claim should be dismissed with costs. The petitioners understand that the credit due to the orders of their President and Council was not respected, otherwise the aforesaid judgment would not have been made, nor reasons given to do so. And regarding the respective charges for a deficiency of Cotton and damage to Cotton, the deponents understand that the same stands proven against all intention and purpose, although the aforesaid J: P: Fabricius and John Calland confess to the charge of the deficiency and loss, but pretend that the same was used upon the wall and the battery of the Fort and the storing of the same in straw huts; but they have not proved these circumstances. And the petitioners understand that nothing but the utmost necessity, proved in the most precise manner, can justify the appropriation of such valuable goods to such purposes as that of fortification, so contrary to the nature of the purpose and the use of the same. And regarding that which they allege in their rejoinder concerning the deficiency as not appearing in the account: the large quantity that was there in total clearly shows that these persons who checked the stock in the account of the Delivery, concerning which the aforesaid I: P: Fabricius and John Calland plead and argue, did not know either what quantity of Cotton there actually was or what quantity there ought to have been, and therefore thought that what they found was correct, and checking the account thereof from that presumption and from the information they might have received concerning it from the aforesaid deceased, did not doubt that what the aforesaid deceased gave was correct. Notwithstanding which, the petitioners understand the aforesaid deceased was in no way relieved by the aforesaid Delivery, but that when that loss and actual deficiency were found, he was just as accountable for the same as if no such delivery had ever taken place, for that was impossible.
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626 Replicq gelijk sij nog seggen dat voorm: Cattoen geborgen is, in bequaame pakhuijsen daar toe geschikt, in voorm: bezitting toebe„ ten hoorende de Capp=tnen, en dat aldaar werkelijk die schade geleeden is, door de negligentie en 't quade beleg van voorm: overleedenen, En aangaande het laaste Articul doorde supp=ten g'eijscht zijnde een derde part, van de uijt„ „de dier tijd schuldig, en welke debiten „melde staande de biten „ voor C:L: Hagemeister te samen met het opperh: van voorm: factorij voor haar eijge ge„ noomen hadde bij haare aanvaarding van haar ten, waaren sij diensten Conform de gebruijke der supp=ten en zijn zij, responcabel voor dezelve; nog thans zeggen zij suppt. in haar voorm: replicq dat zij Gereed zoude sijn weder te geeven aan voorm: I: P: Fabricius en John Calland het man„ tant van zodanige portie die daar van gere„ Couvraeerd konde worden indien 'er eenig zoo konde weesen Op welke replicq de voorm: J: P: Frabricius, en John Colland een weder antwoord indiende daar bij betrag„ tende te ontvlugten de billijkheijd van der Supplianten :01 supp=ten Eijsch op voorm: nalatenschap, Op deese vervolging in regten voordragingen wierden geproduceerd en publicatien gedaan, ende saak ten overhoorin; gekoomen sijnde den 20. dag van maart van dit teegenwoordigen Jaar onses heeren 1769. was het honorable Majoors hof van opinien ten dat de supp=ten geen de minste preaves tot de onder„ steuning van eener haarer eijschen op voorm: nalatenschap gedaan, en ingebragt hadde, dierh: ordonneerde en besloot voorm: hof dat des supp:l Eijsch zoude werden ontzegt, met de kosten als ten vollen en breeder blijken sal bij het vonnis van voorm: hof, daar annex tot de besigtiging van dit honorable hof — Van welke voorm: vonnis de Cupp=t appelleeren tot dit honorable hof alzoo zij begrijpen deselve zeer dwalende is, om de reedenen hier boven aangehaald, en in den voorm: processe speciaal bij gebragt, en verders betreffende het Eerste articul off belasting bij d' Eijss=r gedaan op de nalatenschap van den voorm: over„ ledenen hebben de supplianten om in ordre de ge„ regtigheijd 637 regtigheijd daar van te bewijsen geproduceerd; Copijen van den voorm: overl:s reecq: geautentiseerd door den secretaris den supp=ten president en raad van nagap=n te gelijk met de Resolutie van voorm: president, en raad Jngevolge van dien en van de kennisse die sij op een andere wijse verkregen hadden van de voorm: transactien g'autentiseerde Extracten door haaren f ten secretaris waar door de supp=ten bevatten het klaarlijk blijkt dat de voorm: meerdere belasting gedaan is, in de voorm: Reecq: en gevolglijk dat den nalatenschap van den voorm: overl: voor deselve ten responcabel aan de supp=ten moeten weesen, en d' Cupp=n „aan submitteeren sig „ dit honorable hof, hoe verre de ten genoomene Resolutie bij de supp=ten voorm: president en raad, die de sorg, bestier, en het oppergezag van alle de affairen op de Cust van Cormandel hebben, zoo goed als bondig zoude staan, en hoe verre dezelve een Demonstratie is van de billijkheijd haarer Voorm: pretentie weg:s de voorm: meerder be o21. H belasting om de roesenen bevoorens aangehaald en alsoo voorm: president en raad volk van eere en Credit is, en dat de geene insigten konde hebben in het bevel van de weder uijtkeering eener Com„ ma die te veel opgebragt was, maar dat aan de supplianten de geregtigheijd gedaan zal worden dat sij daar toe gewettigd waaren om de weser uijtkeering te ordonneeren van een somma die den overl: te veel belast en op reecq: uijt de Cas, van de supf=ten ontfangen hadde submitteeren sig insgelijks, aan dit ten Ende Juff honorable hof de geregtigheijd van dat gedeelte van voorm: Nonnis, waar in gesegt is, dat het hof blijkt dat de sufften. geen de mins„ te preuve tot de ondersteuning haarer eijsch op de nalatenschap van voorm: overl: gedaan, geprotuceerd hebben, en „ingevolge vandien vonnissen, dat haaren Eijsch zouden werden ontsegd met de kos„ ten, de supten. begrijpen dat het Credit Verschuldig aan de ordres van haaren presi„ dent 628 dent en raad daar voor niet betaald il anders zoude 't voorm: vonnis niet gemaakt zijn, „ zulks nog „reedenen gegeeven om sulx te doen, en aangaande de respective belastingen voor een minderheijd van Cattoen, ende schade op Cattoen, de attestanten begrijpen dat deselve gepro„ beerd staat teegens alle intentie en oogmerk alhoe porm: J: P: fabricius, en John Calland Confesseeren de belasting vande minderheijd en verlies maar pretendeeren dat deselve g'ex teerd is, met het op de wal en de batlerij „ Fort van het lrf en het bergen van 't selve in Stroohuijsen, maar sij hebben deese om¬ den standigheeden niet beweesen ende supp begrijpen dat niet als sinde uijtterste nood„ zakelykheijd op de naaukeurigste wijse geprobeerd kan regtvaarsigen de zoe eij„ gening van sulke valable goederen tot zulke eijnde als dat van de fortificatie zoo Contrarie teegens de natuur van het oog„ merk en 't gebruijk, van het selve, en aangaande het geene zij allegeeren in haar wederantw: van de minderheijd als niet „ 2 niet blijkende in de reecq:, de groote quantiteijd er in 't geheel was, klaarlijk zoond dat deese persoonen die den voorraad nagegaan in de reecq: van de Leverantie waarover voorm: I: P: fabricius en John Calland pleijten en voorbrengen niet te hebben ge„ woeten nog wat quantiteijd van Cattoen er wesentlijk was of wat quantiteijt er moest geweest zijn en daarom dagten wat zij vonden regt was en de reekening daar van zeekende uijt die presumptie en van de informatie sij van den voorm: overl: van dezelve gekreegen mogte hel„ ben, niet twijffelden het geen voorm: overendenen sijnde regt was, niet tegen„ staande het welke de suppten begrijpen de voorm: overl: in generleij wijse verligt was bij de voorm: Leverantie, maar dat wanneer dat verlies ende wesendlijke minderheijd gevonden was, hij zoo wel verandwoordelijk voor deselve was als of nooijt soo een le„ want dat was Nerantie geschied was onmogelijk
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impossible for either of these two persons or any other, by a signature or declaration, to clear the aforementioned E. L. Hagemeister of the same or to relieve him from rendering account thereof, for if such were the case, a person who was inclined to disadvantage other persons or peoples whose affairs he had to manage, or whose property he held in his hands, would then have nothing more to do than to find someone to make a declaration which could clear an embezzlement of such property, producing such a declaration as a receipt for its amount. The petitioners therefore understand that his estate is just as liable for the same as if no such declaration had ever been made to the petitioners. Yet the petitioners, in order that the family of the aforementioned deceased should not be distressed or oppressed by the payment of the entire amount out of the aforementioned estate, have, since the beginning of the aforementioned action in the aforementioned procedure, waived some claims to the sum of ƒ9212. 14. 8, being the amount of the 25 per cent charged on the loss of cotton in the third article of the petitioners' aforementioned claim, of which this aforementioned honorable court was given notice at the time the aforementioned case came to a hearing, the petitioners contenting themselves with the claim for the net purchase price of that cotton, after deduction of the amount of the auction of the aforementioned damaged goods according to the aforementioned account annexed to their bill of complaint. Regarding the last article or charge in the aforementioned account of a third part of the amount of the outstanding debts, as said before, the attestants request that they be permitted to have this honorable court observe that, by a standing order of the petitioners, the deceased was responsible for it, but since, from the beginning of the aforementioned actions and the commencement of the aforementioned proceedings, the same have been collected, the petitioners have waived any claim in that regard; whereof the aforementioned honorable court was informed at the time the aforementioned case came to a hearing. From which circumstances the petitioners hope it will be clearly evident to this honorable court that they have claimed nothing other than that to which they are justly authorized, and desire nothing more than what is right and equitable. And the petitioners request that they be permitted to add thereto that they very humbly hope that what they have alleged hereinbefore and in the course of the lawsuit will appear very clearly to this court, that their claim is a pure, upright, and equitable claim, that the aforementioned judgment is erroneous, and that the petitioners are aggrieved thereby. And the petitioners very humbly request that the aforementioned judgment may be nullified and rejected, and that the aforementioned J. P. Fabricius and John Calland may be condemned to pay to the petitioners the amount of their aforementioned claim, except for the sum which the petitioners have cited hereinbefore and of which they have stayed their claim for the reasons mentioned hereinbefore, together with all such interest as is already now due and may hereafter become due thereon, as also all the costs of the lawsuits. And the petitioners pray for such further reliefs and permission as this honorable court shall deem fit to grant. Signed: Js. Sykes, attorney for the petitioners. Agreed, Haucquet de Jan EG Clercq Sheweth To the Honble: Charles Bourchier, Esqr. President & Governor of Fort St: George &c: Council Jn the court of Appeals Between The East Jndia Company of holland by their agent Daniel Bartholomeus Truter and the Reverend John Philip Fabricius, danish missionary of wepery and John Calland of madras Merchant, Executors to the Estate of Charles Louis Hagemeister deceased, late Junior Merchant in the service of the said East Jndia Company, and second in the charge of Bimilipatnam, a settlement belonging to the said East Jndia Company The Humble Petition of Appeal of the said East Jndia company of Holland, by their said agent. That your Petitioners did by their said agent on or about the Twenty seventh day of April which was in the year of our Lord onethousand seven hundred and sixty two, Exhibit a Bill of complaint in the honble: the Mayors court at Madraspatnam against the above named John Philip Fabricius and John Calland as Executors to the said Charles Louis Hagemeister deceased, thereby setting Forth that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland, as Executors as aforesaid stood Indebted to your petitioners on account of the said Estate in the sum of Thirteenthousand Two hundred and sixty Pagodas, as would more fully appear upon reference to an account thereunto annexd, and to which your Petitioners most humbly refered, and praying that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland might be decreed to pay unto your Petitioners the said sum of thirteen thousand twohundred and sixty pagodas with all such Interest as then was or should thereafter become due thereon, also all costs of the said suit To which said Bill of complaint the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland put in their answer, thereby setting Forth that as to the Estate of the said deceased charles Louis Hagemeister's being Indebted to the complainants as set forth in their bill of complaint the same was a demand that they could not see any Just grounds for having Examined
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629 onmogelijk voor een deesen twee persoonen of eenige andere bij eene teekening of declaratie voorm: E:L: Hagemeister van de selve te suijveren of te supf=ten de reekenschap daar van te beneemen, want indien zulx het geval was een persoon die of in„ Clineerd was andere persoonen of volkeren te bena„ deelen welkers saaken hij te bostieren had, of Wiens eijgendom hij onder sijn handen had zoude dan niots meer te doen hebben als imand te vinden om een verklaaring te maken het welk Coude zuijveren een ontvreemding van zulke eijgendom produceernde diergelijke declaratie als een qui„ tantie voor dies montant, de suppliante begrijpen daarom dat sijn nalatenschap zoo aansprae„ kelijk voor deselve is als of 'er nooijt een Coo„ danig verklaaring aan de supp=te. gedaan wal„ ten dog de suppn. op dat de familie vande voorm: overl: niet benaauwt of verdrukt door de betaa„ ling van 't gehieele montant uijt de voorm: nalatenschap zouden worden hebben sedert de beginning van de voorm: actie in voorm: procesure versaakt eenige Eijsschen ter ter zomma van ƒ9212. 14. 8 sijnde het montant van de 25: pCcento belast op het verlies van Cat„ ten toen in 't derde articul van der supp=ten voorm: Eijs waarvan 't voorm: honorable hof kundschap gegeeven ik ten tijde dat voorm: saak tot verhoo„ ring gekoomen is, de supp=ten sig te vreede stellende met den eijs van den suijvere inkoop van dat Cat„ toen naar aftrek van 't montant der Vendutie ^van den voormelde beschadigde konformn voormelde reekening derselve op reecq: ^ g'annexceerd aan haare klagtschrift Aangaande het laaste articul of belasting in voorm: reecq: van een derde part van 't mon„ tant des uijtstaande schulden, als vooren gesegt versoekende attestanten het haar gepermittierd zij dit honorable hof te doen observeeren dat bij een standvastig ordre van de supplianten den over„ leedenen daar voor verantwoordelijk was, maar alsoo sedert het begin van de voorm: actien en de aanvang van voorm: proceduuren deselve inge„ zameld sijn, hebbende supplianten eenige Eijsch ten dien reguarde versaakt; waar van voorm: ho 630 lonorable hof g'informeerd is geweest ten zijde dat voorm: zaak ter verhooring gekoomen is, ten Van welke omstandigheeden hoopen de supp=ten dat het dit honorable hof klaarlijk blijken zal, dat sij niet anderl g'eijscht hebben van het geen Waar toe zij regtvaardigd g'authoriseerd zijn, en niets meer verlangen dan dat regt en billijk is, en de supplianten versoeken 't haar gepermit„ teerd zij daar bij te voegen, dat sij zeer nedrig hoopen dat het geen sij hier vooren en in den loop van de processe geallegeerd hebben, seer klaarlijk aan dit hof blijken sal, dat haar eijsch een suijvere opregt en billikken Eijsch is dat 't voorm: vonnis dwalende is, en dat de ten supplianten daar bij g'agraveerd sijn, en de supp=ten versoeken zeer nedrig dat voorm: vonnis ver„ nietigt en verworpen mag worden, en dat voorm: I: P: Fabricius en John Calland gten gecondemneerd mogen worden aan de supp=ten te betaalen het montant van haaren voorm: Eijsch excepto de somma die de supplianten hier hier vooren aangehaald en waar van zij haaren eijsch gestaakt hebben om de reedenen hier vooren verm:, te saamen met alle sodanige intressen als nu reets debet zijn en hier na nog daar op debet zoude worden, als meede alle de ongelden van de processen en de supplianten ver„ zoeken zodanige verdere relieven en permissie als dit honorable Hof zal komen goed te vin„ dien /:was geteekend:/ Jn=s Sijkes, gemag„ tigde van de suppliantes Accordeerd Haucquet de Jan ƒ EG Clercq 621 Shewreth To the Honsrs: Charles Bourchier, Esqr. President &: Governor of Fort S:t George k:n Councie Between The last Jndia Companij o hol„ Jn the court off Appeals land bij their agent daniel Bartho„ lomen Truter and the Reverend John Philip Fabricius, danish missionarij of weperij and John Calland of madras Merchant, Executors to the Eftate of Char¬ les Louis Hagemeister deceased, late Junior Merchant in the service: of the said Cast Jndia Companij, and second in the charge of Bimilipatnam, a settlement belonging to the said last„ Jndia Companij The Humble Petition off Appeal off the said last Jndia companij of Holland, bij their said agent. That ij our Petitioners did bij their said agent on or about the Twentij seventh daij of April which was in the ijear of our Lord onethou¬ sand seven hundred and sixtijtwo, Exhibet a Bill of complaint in the hont. the Massors court at Madraspatnam agaenst the above named named John Philip Fabricius and John Cal land as Executors to the said Charles Louis Eage, merster deceased, therebij setting Vorth that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Cal„ land, as Executors as afforesaid stood Indebted to ijour spetitioners on account of the said Es„ tate in the sum of Thirteenthousand Twoo hun„ dred and sixtij Pagodas, as wold more fullij appear upon reference to an account thereun to annexd, and to which ij our Petitioners most humblij refered, and praijing that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland might be decreed to paij unto ijour Petitioners the said sum of thirteen thousand twohun„ dred and sestij pagodas with all such Jnteresst as then was or fhould thereatter become due thereon, also all costo of the said suit To which said Bill of complaint the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland put in their answer, there bij setting Vortz that as to the Estate of the said deceased charles Louis Hagemerster's being Indested to the com„ plainants as fet forth in their bill of com„ plaint the same was a demand that theij could not see anij Juft grounds for having Examined
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632 Examined the books of the said deceased and that they could not find any reason that your Petitioners had for any such demand on the said Estate, and particularly the said Executors in their said answer alleged with regard to the first article or charge in your petitioners' said account annexed to their said Bill of complaint of Eight thousand seven hundred and thirty-two Florins, Eight stivers, and Eight pence for an overcharge made by the said deceased in his Transactions on account of your petitioners, and which he was ordered to refund by the government of Negapatnam the Eighteenth June one thousand seven hundred and fifty-one that they are greatly at a loss why this affair was not adjusted before the said deceased was permitted to leave Bimlipatnam, taking advantage of this plea from a mistake made in the account annexed to your Petitioners' said Bill, wherein the order of the government of Nagapatnam is mentioned to be made the Eighteenth June one thousand seven hundred and fifty-one, and from thence inferring that if there had been any such demand on Him, the chief would not have suffered him to leave Bimlipatnam in June being, as they allege from the said mistake, so long a time from the date of the said order, and that your Petitioners' bare saying that it is an overcharge that was ordered by the government of Nagapatnam that the said Charles Louis Hagemeister must refund, does not argue that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland should pay it without your petitioners showing sufficient reason why it was an overcharge as the chief of Bimlipatnam had settled with the deceased about Eight days before the said Charles Louis Hagemeister's departure from thence, and they also allege that as no such debt appears upon the Books of the said deceased they do not see any reason which can oblige the Estate of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister to discharge this demand. That with regard to the second article or charge in your petitioners' said account for A deficiency of seven thousand five hundred and one Pound and a half of Surat cotton that arose upon delivering that article then under his charge belonging to your petitioners at Bimlipatam to his successor in that Employ, the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland say they cannot admit of this charge, because 693 because the account of his delivering the stores of the said company to his successor signed by his successor and by two other gentlemen who were appointed to be present on the part of the said company shows that the said deficiency was lost by the blockade of that Factory upon the walls and Batteries of the Fort; That with regard to the third article or charge in your petitioners' said account of twenty-seven thousand and eighty-three Florins and Nineteen stivers, being the balance of the amount of the prime cost and Twenty-five per Cent thereon, together with a deduction of the amount of what it sold for, for a Loss arising on one hundred and thirty-five thousand four hundred and thirty Pound of cotton under the Charge of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, and which happened through his neglect, the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland in their said answer pretend that there is a great Error committed by your Petitioners in the quantity of the said Cotton, it being only one hundred and eleven thousand three hundred and nineteen Pound and Fifteen sixteenths of a pound, so that they pretend your Petitioners have overcharged the said Charles Louis Hagemeister with Twenty-four thousand one hundred and Ten pound and one sixteenth of a Pound, and say they cannot allow that the damage of a part of that Cotton happened through the neglect of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister because in the said account of the delivery of the stores they find that those two gentlemen have given a declaration concerning the cause of the said damage and without ever making any mention of a neglect of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, That a great deal, that is, several bales was spoiled and foul by serving upon the Batteries and the walls of the Fort and likewise the pack cloth and cords in the straw houses Rotten and the cotton on one side two or three Inches damaged and become unfit to be spun; therefore that damage of the cotton suffered by being upon the walls and Batteries of the Fort in the time of the blockade, consequently is not to be ascribed to the neglect of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, and as to the rest of the cotton it cannot be ascribed to the neglect of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister but to the want of more proper places than straw houses to put it in, and therefore the deceased's Estate is not answerable for it, and 634 and say the Cotton might have laid many years in the straw houses, and if so, it must have contributed greatly to its being rotten and unfit to be spun; That with regard to the fourth and last article or charge in your Petitioners' account annexed to their said Bill for a third part of the outstanding debts due to your Petitioners at the time of his leaving Bimlipatnam, which according to a standing rule of your Petitioners the said deceased was to take upon his own account, the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland in their said answer pretend that the same is unreasonable, as not one of them that they know was contracted by the said deceased, and if they were, they pretend it must have been for the benefit of your Petitioners, and what the deceased could receive no advantage from, but the promoting your petitioners' Interest, and be by the direction and approbation of the chief of the Factory. These they assign as argumental reasons, why the said debts were outstanding or contracted, at the same time it appears by what they further say of the uncertainty of there being such debts or of the
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632 Examined the books of the said deceased and that theij could not find anij recisono that ijour Peti„ tioners had for anij such demand on the said Estate, and particularlij the said Lecutors in their said ons over alledged with regard to the first article or charge in ijour petitioners faid account annexed to their said Bill off com„ plaint of Eighithousand seven hundred and thirty two Florino, Eight stivers, and Eight pence for an overcharge made bij the said deceased in his Transactions. on accourt A ij our petiti„ oners, and which he was ordered to refund bij the government of Negapatnam the ligh„ teenth June ondthousand seven hundred and fiftij one that theij are greatlij at a loss whij this affair was not adjusted before the said deceased was permitted to leave Bimlipat„ nam, taking advantage of this plea from à mistake made en the account annefed to ijour Petitioner& said Bill, where in the order of the gouvernment of Nagapatnam is mentioned to be made the Eighteenth June onethousand seeven hundred and fiftij one, and from thena inferring that is there had been anij such demand on Hhim, the chief would not have sufferd furferd hem to leave Bimilipatnam in June being, as theij alledge from the said mistake, so lond a time from the date of the said order, and that ijour Petationers bare saijing that it is an overcharge that was ordered bij the government of Nagapatnam that the said Charles Louis ragemeester muts rekund, does notarque that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland should paij et without ijour petitionars shewving sufficient reason whij it was an over„ charge as the chief of Bimlipatnam had setteed with the deceased about Eight daijs before the said charles Louis Hagemeisters de parture from thence, and theij also alledge that as no such debt appears upon the Books of the said deceased theij do not see anij resson which can oblige the Estate of the said Charles Louis Hagemerster to discharge thit demand That with regard to the secund article or charge in ijour petitioners said account for A deficiencij of seventhousand fwehundred ant one Pound and a half d surat catton that arose upon delivoering that article then under his charge belonging to ijburpe„ titioners at bimlipatam to his successor in that Emploij the said John Philip Fabricuis and John calland saij theij can not admit of this charge„ because 693 because the account of his delivering the stores of the said company to his succepsor signed bij his succes„ for and bij two other gentleman who viere appoin„ ted to be present on the part of the s: companij shens that the said deficiereij was loft bij the bloc Rade of that Factorij ijpon the walls and Batte„ ries of the Fort; That with regard to the third article or charge in ijour petitionners said account of twentij seventhousand and lighty three Florins and Nineteen stivers, being the ballance of the amount of the prime cost and Twientij fises Cent thereon, together with à debuction of the amount of what it sold for, for a Loss arising on one hun„ dred and thirtij vivethousand fourhundred and thirtij Pound of colton under the Charge of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, and which & of happened thro his neglet the said John phi„ lip Fabricuil and John calland in their said andwer pretend that there is á great Error committed bij ijour Petitioners in the quantitij of the said Catton, it being onlij one hundred and leeven thousand three hundred and nineteen. Pound and Visteen sixteenth of a pound, so that theij pretend ijour Petitoners have overcharged the said Charles Louio Hagemerster witt Twentij Vourthousand one hundred and Ten pound pound and one sifteenth of a Pound, and faij theij can not allow that the damage of a part of that Catton happened thro the neglect of the said char„ les Louis Hagemerster because in the said ac„ count of the deliverij of the stores theij vind that those two gentlemen have given a declaration concerning the cause of the said damage and without ever making anij mention of a neglect of the said Rarles Louio Hagemeister, That a great de al, that is, several bales was spoiled and foul bij serving upon the Bat„ teries and the walls of the Fort and likewise the back cloth and cords in the straw houses Rotten and the catton on one side two or three Jnches damaged and become untit to be spun„ therefore that damage of the catton sutfered bij being upon the walls and Batteries of the Fort in the time ofthe blockade, consequentlij is not to be ascribed to the neglict of the said Charles Louis hagemeister, and as to the reft of the catton it can not be apcribed to the ne„ gleet of the said charles Louis Hagemeister but to the want of more proper places than straw houses to put it in, and therefore the deceased's Estate is not answerable for A and 634 and saij the Cotton might have laid manij ijears in the straw houses, and it so, it must have contributed greatlij to its being rotten and undit to be spin; That with regard to the fourth and last article or charge in ijour Petili„ mers account annexed to their said Bill for a third part of the ontstanding debto due to ijour Petitioners at the time of his leaving Bimilipatnam, which according to a stau„ ding rule of ijour Petitioners the said dece¬ ased was to take upon his own account, the said John Philip Fabricius and John Cal¬ land in their said answer pretend that the same is inreasonable, as not one of them that theij know was contracted bij the said deceased, and if theij weze, theij pretend it mist have been for the benefit of ijour Petitioners, and what the deceased could receive no advantage from, but the promoting ijour petitioners Jn„ terest, and be bij the direction and approbation of the chiet of the Factorij, These theij assign as argumental reasons, whij the said debts were outstanding or contracted, at the same time it appears bij what theij further saij of the uncertaintij of there being such debts or of the.
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the time of their being contracted that they are not at all acquainted with the circumstances attending them, the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland further in their said answer say that they are very ready to discharge any just and lawful debts that the deceased's estate may owe, but they pretend your petitioners' demand appears not to be so, but made up since the deceased's death, which your petitioners beg leave to observe is mere evasion. To which answer your petitioners did by their said agent put in a replication, thereby confirming their said bill of complaint, and setting forth that notwithstanding what the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland allege, that upon inspecting the books of the said deceased they cannot find any entry of your petitioners' charge on his estate, yet your petitioners doubted not to produce to the Honorable Mayor's Court in due time sufficient proof of their said demand, and which your petitioners think they have done, and humbly hope this Honorable Court will be of the same opinion, and particularly with regard to the said first article or charge in the account to your petitioners' said bill of eight thousand seven hundred and thirty-two Florins, eight stivers and eight pence. As the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland seemed, by what they set forth in their said answer, to be ignorant in what manner this article arose, your petitioners in their said replication set forth that upon the blockade of the said settlement of Bimilipatnam there were sundry articles of provisions purchased for the use of the garrison, the accounts of which disbursements were under the charge of the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, which accounts upon being examined at Nagapatnam, were found overcharged in the several articles therein inserted to the above amount. And as the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, according to the nature of his office and the established customs of your petitioners, was responsible to your petitioners for any overcharge that might appear in such accounts, he was ordered to discharge the same by the order of the Presidency at Nagapatnam dated the eighteenth day of June one thousand seven hundred and fifty-one, and not the eighteenth day of January, which was a mistake in your petitioners' said bill as before mentioned, as would appear upon an authentic extract thereof which your petitioners set forth should be produced in due time, so that it could not then appear any ways mysterious, as the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland represented in their said answer, that the successor of the said deceased should permit him to come away from the said settlement at a time when he had not received the said order from Nagapatnam, which did not arrive till after his departure. That as to the article of 2805 Florins, 7 stivers and 8 pence for a deficiency of 7501 1/2 pounds of Surat cotton, your petitioners in their said replication still maintained the justness and equity of the said charge, for they set forth that they would not admit of the plea made use of by the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland of the said deficiency arising by the said cotton's being expended on the walls and batteries, which is only an imaginary method of accounting for this deficiency, nor is the account mentioned by the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland to have been signed by his successor sufficient proof to support this fact. For had that really been the case and the said deceased desirous of availing himself of this plea, it was his indispensable business to have made it appear immediately after the blockade was over to the gentlemen of that settlement, and not have left so material a matter to the time that he was ordered to deliver over the said goods to his successor, who no doubt did all he could to put the most favorable construction upon this deficiency; but this, without being supported by more authentic vouchers, your petitioners presumed could have no weight in the judgment of the said Honorable Mayor's Court, and your petitioners still presume and hope the same will not have any weight with this Honorable Court. As to the article of 135530 pounds of cotton damaged through the neglect of the said deceased, your petitioners in their said replication denied that they had committed any mistake in the quantity of the said article, as set forth by the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland, for that the article of one hundred and eleven thousand and three hundred and nineteen pounds and fifteen-sixteenths of a pound has no manner of connection with the above article charged to the estate of the said deceased, nor was any demand made for it, nor was the said cotton, for the damage of which your petitioners demanded satisfaction, expended upon the walls and batteries of the settlement or kept in straw houses and damaged thereby, as set forth by the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland. But your petitioners in their replication said and still say that the said cotton was kept in proper magazines for that purpose at that settlement belonging to your petitioners, and did actually there suffer the damage alleged through the negligence and mismanagement of the said deceased. And as to the last article demanded by your petitioners, being a third part of the outstanding debts then due in the said settlement, and which debts the said Charles Louis Hagemeister, together with the chief of that settlement, had taken upon themselves upon entering into the charge of it, and according to the custom of your petitioners, they were and are responsible for the same; however, your petitioners in their said replication set forth that they would be ready to return to the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland the amount
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the time of their being contracted that theij are not all acquainted with the circumstan„ ces attending them, the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland further in their said answer saij that theij are verij readij to discharge anij fast and lan„ full debts, that the deceased's Estate maij owe, out theij Pretend ijour Petitioners demand appearo not to de so but made upsince the deceaseds daath, which ijour petitioners fuff beq' lease to obferve is meer Evasion To which answer ijour Petitioners did bij their said agent putin a Replication, therebij confirming their said bill of complaint, and setting Vorth that notwithstanding what the said John Philip Fabricius and John Colland alledge that upon Inspecting the Books of the said deceased theij can not find anij Entrij of ijour Petitioners charge on his Estate, ijet ijour petitioners doubted not to produce to the Edn=ste. the maijors court in due time sufficient proof of their said demand, and which ijour Petitioners think theij have done, and humbbij hope this hon:le. Court will be of the same opinion, and particularlij with re„ gard to the said first article or charge in the account to ijour Petitioners said bill of Eight„ thousand 625 thousand seven hundred and Thirtij two Florins Eight slivers and Eight Pence, as the said John Philip Fabricuis and John Calland seemed bij what theij setforth in their said answer to be Ignorant in what manner this article arose, ijour petitioners in their said replication setforth that upon the blockade of the said fettle ment of Bimilipatnam there were sundrij articles of provisions Purchafed for the use of the garrison, the accounts of which dis¬ buisements were under the charge of the sa„ id charles Louis Hagemeister, which accounts upon being Examined at Nagapatnam, were found overehargd in the several articles the„ rin inferted to the above amount, and as the said deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister accor„ ding to the nature of his office and the Esta„ blifhed customs of ijour Petitioners, was respon„ sable to ijour petitioners for anij overcharge that might appear in such accounts he was orde„ red to dicharge the same bij the order the Preci„ dencij at Nagapatnam dated the said lighteenths daij of fune one thousand seven hundred and J:ftij „ one, and not the Eighteenth daij of Januarij, which„ was a mistake in ijour Petitioners said bill as before and before mentioned, as wold appear uppon an authen„ tick Ostract there of which ij our petitioners fitforth should se produced in due time, so that it could not then appear anij waijs misterions, as the said John Philip Fabricius and John calland re„ presented in their said answer, that the successor of the said deceased should permit him to come awaij from the said settlement at a time whenle had not recersed the said order from Nagapat„ nam, which did not arrive till atter his de¬ parture; That as to the article of 2805. Florins 7. stovers and 8r pence for a defecieneij of 7501½. pound off surat catton, ijour petitioners in their said Replication still maintaind the Justness and Equitij of the said Charge, for theij set forth that theij would not admit of the plea made use of bij the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland of the said deficienij arising bij the said coltons being Appended on the wal and Batteries, which is onlij an smaginar method of accounting for this deficieneij, nor is the account mentioned bij the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland to have been signed bij his successor sufficient proof te support this fact, for had that realij been the co and 636 and the said deceased desirous of availing him„ felfs off this plea, it was his Indispen Sible business to have made it appear Jmme diatelij atterthe blockade was over to the gentlemen of that set„ tlement, and not have leff so material a matter to the time that he was ordered to deliver over the said goods to his successor, who no doubt did all he could to put the most vavorable construdion upon this deficieneij, but this without being sup„ ported bij more authentick vouchers ijour pe„ titioners presumed could have no weight in the Judgment of the said hon:re the massors court, and ijour petitioners still I resume and hope the same will not hare anij weight with this hons. Court. As to the article of 135530. pounds of Cotton damaged thro the neglect of the said deceased, ijour petitioners in their said replication denijed that Rheij had committed anij mistake in the quantitij of the said article, as fet forth bij the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland, for that the article of one hundred k: Cleventhou„ sand and three hundred and nineteen pounds k: Visteen sifteenth of a pound, has na manner of connection with the above article Char„ ged. en„ ½. nag d e t and ged to the Estate of the said deceased, nor was anij demand made for it, nor was the said Cotton, for the damage of which ijour peti„ tioners demanded satiffaction, Ex pendedupon the walls and batteries of the settlement or kept in strawhouses and damaged therebij, as setforth bij the said John Philip Fabri„ cius and John Calland But ijout Petitioners in thier Replication said and stell say that the said cotton was kept in proper magazines for that purpose at that settlement belonging to ijour Petitio„ ners, and did actuallij there supfer the damage alledged through the negligence and mil ma¬ nagement of the said deceased, and afto the last Article demanded bij ijour petitisners beinga third part of the outstanding debts then due in the said settlement, and which debto the said charled Louis Hagemeiter together with the chief of that settlement had taken upon themseves upon their to the charge of it, and according to the custom of ijour petitioners, theij were and are responsible for the same, however ijour petiti¬ oners in their said replication set forth that theij would be readij to returm to the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland the amount
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amount of any such part thereof as might be recovered if any could be so. To which Replication the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland put in a Rejoinder, thereby endeavoring to evade the justness of your petitioners' just demand on the said estate. Upon these proceedings issue was joined, exhibits were produced, and publication passed; and the cause coming on to be heard the twenty-first day of March in the present year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and fifty-nine, the honorable the Mayor's Court were of opinion that your petitioners had not brought the least proof in support of any of their demands made on the said estate. The said court did therefore order and decree that your petitioners' bill should stand dismissed with costs, as will more fully and at large appear by the decree of the said court hereunto annexed for the inspection of this honorable court. From which said decree your petitioners do appeal to this honorable court, as they conceive the same is very erroneous for the reasons hereinbefore and in the said proceedings particularly set forth; and further with regard to the first article or charge made by your petitioners on the estate of the said deceased, your petitioners, in order to demonstrate the justness thereof, have produced copies of the said deceased's accounts, attested as such by the secretary of your petitioners' President and Council at Nagapatnam, together with the resolution of the said President and Council in consequence thereof and of the knowledge they had otherwise acquired of the said transactions, extracted and authenticated by their said secretary, whereby your petitioners conceive it plainly appears that there was the said overcharge made in the said accounts, and consequently that the estate of the said deceased should of course be answerable to your petitioners for the same. And your petitioners submit to this honorable court how far the said resolution made by your petitioners' said President and Council, who have the care, management, and superintendency of all your petitioners' affairs on the coast of Coromandel, should stand as good and valid, and how far the same is a demonstration of the justness of your petitioners' said demand as to the said overcharge for the reasons before set forth; and also considering that the said President and Council are people of honor and credit, and who could not have any view in ordering the said reimbursement but that of doing the justice to your petitioners that they found them entitled to, and ordering the reimbursement of a sum which the said deceased had overcharged and received on account, and out of your petitioners' cash. And your petitioners also submit to this honorable court the justness of that part of the said decree wherein it says that it appears to the court that your petitioners have not brought the least proof in support of any of their said demands on the estate of the deceased, and in consequence thereof decree that their bill should be dismissed with costs. Your petitioners conceive that the credit which is due to the orders of their said President and Council has not been paid thereto, otherwise the said decree would not have been made nor such reason given for so doing; and with regard to the respective charges for a deficiency of cotton and a loss on cotton, your petitioners conceive that the same stands proved to all intents and purposes, as the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland confess the charge of the deficiency and loss, but pretend that the same happened by being put upon the walls and batteries of the forts, and being kept in straw houses. But they have by no means proved those circumstances, and your petitioners conceive that nothing but absolute necessity, proved in the strongest manner, can justify the appropriating such valuable goods to such purposes as that of fortifications, so contrary to the nature, intent, and use of them. And what they themselves allege in their rejoinder of the deficiency not being perceivable on account of the great quantity there was, in all plainly shows that those persons who inspected the stores and signed the accounts of the delivery over that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland plead and produce, did not know either what quantity of cotton there really was or what quantity there should have been, and therefore thought that what they found was right and signed the accounts of it from that presumption and from the information they might receive from the said deceased about the same, not doubting but what the said deceased alleged of it was just, notwithstanding
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627 amount of anij such part thereof as might be Recovered if anij could be so. To wihich Replication the said John Philip Fa„ bricius and John Calland put in a Rejoinder therebij Endeavouring to lvade the sustrness of ijour petitioners Just demand on the said Estate Upon these Proceedings Issue was foined Ef„ hib its were produced and publication passed, and the cause coming on to beheard the twentij virst daij of march in the present ijcar of ourlord onethousand sevven hundred and fiftij nise the hon=d the maijors court were of opinion that ijour Petitioners had not broughtthe least proof in support of anij of their demands made on the said Estate, the said court did there fore order and decree that ijour petitioners bill shouldstand dismissed with cofto, ad will morefullij and at large appear bij the decree of the said court hereunto annexed for the snspection of this hon=se Court. From which said decree ijour Petationers do Appeal to this hon=sle Court, as theij conceive the same is verij Crrone ons for the reasons he„ rein before and in the said Proceedings par„ ticularlij fet Vorth, and vurther wilt regard to: pon John t to the first article or charge made bij your peti„ tioners on the Estate of the said diceassed ijour Pet=rs in order to demonstrate the Justness there of have produced copies of the said deceafed's accounts, attested af such bij the secretarij ofij our petiti„ oners president and councie at Nagapatnam, together wilh the resolution of the said president and councie in consequence there of and of the Knowledge theij had otherwise acquired of the said Fransactions, Extracted and authenticated bij their said secretarij wherebij ijour petitioners conceive it plainlij appears that there was the said over charge made in the said accounts, and consequentlij that the Estate of the said de„ ceased should of couse be answerable to ijour Petationers for the same, and ijour petitio„ ners submit to this ronble court hou tar the said Resolution made bij ijour Petitioners faid president and Councie, who have the care ma„ nagement and superintencij of allij our Peti„ tioners Affairs on the coft of cormandel should stand as good and salid, and now far the same is à demonstration of the Justress of ijour pe„ titioners said demand, as to the said overchar„ ge for the reasons betore setforth, and also con¬ sidering. 628 sideering that the said president and Councie are people of honor th credit, and who could not have anij vien in ordering the said Reimburs„ ment, but that of doing the Juftice to ijour pe„ titioners that theij vound them intitled to, and ordering the Reimbursment of a sum which the said deceased had over charged and received on account, and out of ijour Petitioners cash, andijour Pelitioners alsoo sub mit to this hon=se court the Justness of that part of the faid decree wherin it Paijs that it appears to the court that ijour Petitioners have not brought the leaff Proof in support of anij of their said demands on the Estate of the deceased, and in consequence there of decree that their Bill should be dismissed with costs, iour petitioners conceive that the credit which is due to the orders of their said pre¬ sident and councie has not been paid thereto„ otherwise the said decree would not have been made nor such reason given sor so doing, and wilh regard to the respective charges for a deficeeneij of Cotton and a loss on conton ijour Petitioners conceive that the same stands proved to all Jntents and pinposes peti„ =rs e - purposes, as the said John Philip Fabricius and John Cal¬ land confess the charge of the deticienij and loss dut pre„ tend that the fawe happened bij being putuepon the„ walls and Batteries of the Forts, and bring kept in straw houses, But theij have bij no means. proved those circumstances, and ijour Petitioners concei„ je that nothing but absolute necessitij, proved in the strongeft manner, can Justifij the appropria„ ting such valuable goods to such purposes as that of Fortifications so contrarij to the nature Intend and use of them, and what theij themselves alledge in their Rejoinder of the deficieneij, not being perieivable on account of the great quar„ titij there was, in alle plainlij shews thot those Persons who suspected the stores and signed the accounts of the deliverij over that the same John Philip Fabricius and John Calland plead r: pro„ diece, did not knoweither what quantitij of cotton there reallij was or what quantitij there should have been, and therefore thought that what theij found was right and signed the accounts of at from that presumption and from the swor„ mation theij might receive from the said decea„ sed about the same, not doubting but what the said deceased alled ged of it was first, not with standing
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638 notwithstanding which your Petitioners conceive the said deceased was by no means cleared by the said delivery over, but that when that loss and deficiency was really found out that he was as much answerable for it as if no such delivery over had been, for it was impossible for either those persons or anybody else by any signature or declaration to clear the said Charles Louis Hagemeister from the same, or to deprive your Petitioners of the amount thereof, for should that be the case no person who was inclined to wrong any other persons or body of people, whose affairs he had the management of, or whose property he had in his hands, would have anything more to do than to get somebody to make a declaration which would colour an embezzlement of such property and produce such declaration as an acquittance for the amount thereof. Your Petitioners therefore conceive that his Estate is as much answerable to your Petitioners for the same as if no such declaration had been made, though your Petitioners, in order that the family of the said deceased might not be distressed by the whole of the said amount being paid out of the said Estate, have since the commencement of the said action and filing the said proceedings relinquished any claim to the sum of Nine thousand three hundred and twelve Florins fourteen stivers and eight pence, being the amount of the twenty-five percent charged on the loss of cotton in the third article of your Petitioners' said demand, of which the said honorable the Mayor's Court were acquainted at the time of the hearing of the said cause, your Petitioners contenting themselves with demanding the amount of the prime cost of that cotton, after a deduction of the amount sales of it on account of the said damage, according to the said account annexed to their said bill; and with regard to the last article or charge in the said account for a third part of the account of the outstanding debts as aforesaid, your Petitioners beg leave to observe to this honorable court that by a standing order of your Petitioners the said deceased was answerable for it, but as since the commencement of the said action and filing the said proceedings the same have been collected, your Petitioners have relinquished any demand on that account, of which the said honorable the Mayor's Court were also informed at the time of the hearing the said cause. From which circumstances your Petitioners humbly 640 humbly hope that it will clearly appear to this honorable Court that they only demand what they are justly entitled to, and want nothing but what is just and equitable, and your Petitioners beg leave further to add that they humbly hope that by what is before and in the said proceedings set forth it will plainly and clearly appear to this honorable Court that your Petitioners' said demand is a fair, just, and equitable one, and that the said decree is erroneous, and that your Petitioners are aggrieved thereby, and your Petitioners most humbly pray that the said decree may be reversed and set aside, and that the said John Philip Fabricius and John Calland may be decreed to pay unto your Petitioners the amount of their said demand, except the sums to which your Petitioners have, as before set forth, relinquished their claim to for the reasons before mentioned, together with all such interest as now is or shall hereafter become due thereon, also all costs of suit, and your Petitioners also pray such further and other relief in the premises as to this honorable court shall seem meet. Was signed: James Sykes, Attorney for the Petitioners. Agreed. Naucquet De Tan First Clerk 641 No 53. To the Right Honorable Charles Bourchier, Esquire, Governor of Fort St. George, etc., together with the Council. The Answer of the Reverend John Philip Fabricius, missionary of Vepery, and John Calland of Madras, merchant, Executors of the estate of the deceased Charles Louis Hagemeister, junior merchant in the service of the Dutch East India Company, appellees in the petition of appeal on behalf of the aforementioned East India Company through its attorney, Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, appellants. These appellees admit that the appellants submitted their bill of complaint through their attorney, the aforementioned Daniel Bartholomeus Truter, in the honorable Court of Justice against the appellees on or about the 27th day of April in the year 1762, for an amount of 13260 pagodas, as executors of the estate of the aforementioned deceased C. L. Hagemeister. These appellees admit that the appellants their proceedings
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638 standing which ijour Petitioners conceive the said deceased was bij no means cleared bij the said de„ liverij over but that when that Lofs and deficieneij was reallij found out that he was as muchans, vierable for it, as it no such de liverij over had ben, for it was Impossible for either those Persons or anij bodij else bij anij signature or declara„ tion to clear the said charles Louis Hagemeis„ ter from the same, or to deprive ijour Petitio¬ ners of the amount there of, for should that be the case no Person who was inclined to wrong anij other persons or bodij of people, whose affairs he had the management of, or whose propertij he had in his hands would have anijthing more to do than to get somebodij to make â declara„ tion which would colour an Imbezalement of such propertij and produce such aclaration as an acquittance for the amount there of, ijour petitioners therefore conceive that his Esta„ te is as much answerable to ijour Petitioners for the same as it no such declaration hadbeen made, tho ijour Petitioners in onder that the Familij of the said deceased might not be-dis tressed bij the whole of the said amount buing paid out of the said Estate have fince the commen„ cement of the said action and Filing the said proceedings proceedings relinquished anij cham to the sum of Ninethoirs and Threehundred and twelve Florins fourtheen stivers and light pence, being the amaum of the Twentij fise p Cents charged on the Loss of cotton in the third article of ij our petitioners faid demand, of which the said hon=ste. the maij ors vourt were acquainted at the time of the hearing of the said couse, ijour petitioners contenting themselvrs with dimand the amount of the prime coft of that cotton, after a deduction of the amount sales of it on account of the said damage, according to the said account annexed to their said bill; and with regard to the last article or charge in the said account for a third part of the account of the ontstanding debts as aforesaid, ij our Peldio, ners beg' leave to observe to this honrle. court, that bij a standing order of ijour petitioners the said deceased was answerable for it, but al¬ fince the commencement of the said action and Filing the said proceedings the same have heen. collected ij our Petit: have relinques hed anij demand on that account, of which the said Honl. the masors court were also Infor¬ med at the time of the hearing the said cause From which circumstances ijour petitioners rumblij 640 humblij hope that it will clearle appear to this hon=dte Court, that theij onlij demand what theij are furftlij Intended to, and want nothing but Is hat is Juft and Equitable, and ij our Pelitio„ ners begleave further to add that theij humblij hope that bij what is before and in the said pro„ ceedings sesforth it will plainlij and clearlij appair to thes Hon:le. Court, that ij our Petiti„ oners said demand is, â fair suft and Equi„ table one, and that the said decree is Crrone„ ons, and that ijour petitioners are aggrie„ red therebij, and ijour petitioners moft hum„ blij praij that the said decree maij be rever„ sed and set a side, and that the said John phi¬ lip Fabricius and John Calland maij be dec„ reed to paij unto ijour petitionero the amount of thier said demand, Efcett the sums to which ijour Petitioners have, as before setforth, Relinquis„ hed their claimto for the reafons before mentio„ ned, together with all such Intrest as novis or shall hereafter become due thereon, also all cofts of fait, and ijour petitioners also praij such further and other relief in the premises as to this hon¬ ble court shall seem meet /:was ge teekend:/ In:s Sijkes, Att:s for the Petitioners Petitioners. —. Accordeerd Naucquet De Tan EG Clercq 6l1 No 53. Aan den wel Edelen Charles Bourchier schildknaap en gouverneur van 't fort s:t george &. a neevens den Raad T Antwoord van den Eerwaar„ den John Philip Fabricius missionris van weperij en John Calland van Madras koopman, Executeurs van de nalatenschap van den overleedenen charles Louis Hagemeester onderCoop„ man in dienst van de hollandse oostindische Comp„e g'appelleer„ dens tot het versoek van appel van weegens voorm: oost Jn„ dische Comp=e door haar zaak besorger Daniel Bartholomus Truter appellanten Dese g'appelleerdens admitteeren dat der appel„ lanten haar klagtschrift ingediend hebben door haarer saak besorger den voorm: Daniel bartolomus Truter in 't honorable Hof van Justitie teegens de geappelleerdens op of omtrend den 27. ' dag van april zijnde in dien Jaare 1762. voor een montant van 13260. pa/o als executeurs van de nalatenschap van den voorm: overleede„ nen C: L: Hagemeester, dese geappelleerdensad„ mitteeren dat de appellanten haar procedu„ ren n
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have continued in the honorable Court of Justice, but whereas the aforementioned appellants have seen fit to relate the same in some parts differently from the trial record, these appellees understand that it is necessary to repeat enough of the matter to bring it into that pure daylight in which the aforementioned honorable Court of Justice judged it by its impartial sentence; and these appellees further say that they have examined the books of the aforementioned deceased C: L: Hagemeester and cannot find that the aforementioned estate is in any way indebted to the appellants; the sum of ƒ8732. 8. 8. for diverse items of provisions bought for the use of the garrison at bimilip=n, these appellees say in objection to this item that they understand that it clearly appears the same were bought by order of the chief of that settlement, and who else is answerable to the appellants for such an additional charge, and not the deceased's estate; And the sum of ƒ2885: 7. 8. the appellants say to be for a deficiency of 7581½ lb: of Surat cotton; these appellees object to this item as the same were used as bulwarks on the ramparts and batteries of the aforementioned garrison at bmilip=n at the time of the blockade of that factory and by the special order of the chief and no doubt to avoid greater damage to the appellants, which the appellees understand justifies the conduct of the deceased and holds his estate indemnified from the claim of the appellants, as that which the deceased did was done for the good of the service and by order of the chief; the sum of ƒ27083. 19. for cotton which the appellants say was spoiled by the negligence of the deceased, these appellees deny that this damage is to be attributed to the neglect of the deceased, but say it must be attributed to the lack of more convenient places than thatched houses to store such valuable goods in, which are subject to spoiling by the least moisture they receive, moreover aforementioned cotton may have lain in aforementioned thatched houses for many years or have been spoiled before the arrival of the deceased at bimilip=m and it is probable that it spoiled during the blockade, one must with submission conclude such from the circumstances that aforementioned cotton became spoiled either for lack of more proper storage places than thatched houses, or in the blockade, and which loss these appellees presume that the appellants must bear as it now appears that aforementioned cotton was damaged through no fault or negligence of the deceased; The sum of ƒ20231:5:8: for a third part of the appellants' outstanding debts at bimilip=mn, these appellees understand with submission that such is an extraordinary charge of a claim against the estate of the deceased for debts which he never contracted and which were possibly entered in the books some years before the deceased came to bimilp=m, and which demonstrates in an obvious manner the illegality of the appellants' claim, these appellees having done with repeating such matters from their answer as they with submission understand to be suitable to their case and as concise as possible, these appellees admit that the appellants submitted a replication to their answer confirming their bill of complaint and these appellees admit their rejoinder to the same and that judgment was rendered and all the rest arising from the trial that was necessary until the trial came to a hearing, and that the aforementioned honorable Court of Justice saw fit upon the hearing of the case to dismiss the appellants' claim, and which equitable sentence of the honorable Court of Justice these appellees hope will be confirmed by this honorable Court, as its sentence was formed upon a diligent attention to the entire trial record, besides which, the deceased having been discharged from the service of the appellants, this must make the appellants' claim invalid, and these appellees presume that the exhibits produced by the appellants are of no validity whatever, as the same are solely extracts of their own transactions and therefore they cannot serve as proof in their own case, nor can the attestations of their secretary add anything to the validity thereof, as the same was never sworn before an impartial person who was moreover authorized to administer the oath; these appellees cannot admit that the appellants have demonstrated that the aforementioned deceased C: L: Hagemeester an additional charge
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ren voortgeset hebben in't honnorable hoff van Justitie, maar dewijl voorm: appellanten deselve in sommige deelten different van 't proces behaagd hebben te relateeren begrijpen dee„ sen geappelleerdens het noodsakelijk is sooveel van de saak te herhaalen om het in dat suij„ verdagligt te brengen, indewelke het voorn honnorable hoff van Justitie het g'oordeeld heeft bij haar onsijdig vonnis; en deese geap„ pelleerdens seggen verder dat sij de boeken van den voorm: overleedenen C: L: Hagemeester g' examineerd hebben en niet kunnen vinden dat voorm: nalatenschap op wat wijsen 't ook sij iets aan de appellanten schuldigis; de som„ ma van ƒ8732. 8. 8. voor diverse articulen van provisien gekogt tot gebruijk van 't guarnisoen te bimilip=n deese geappelleerden seggen tot teegen-werping van dit articul dat sij begrijpen dat 't klaarlijk blijkt deselve per ordre van 't opperhoofd dier besitting ge„ kogt sijn, en wie is er anders bij de appellanten verandwoordelijk voor soo een meerder be„ lasting, en niet de overleed:s nalatenscaat; En de somma van ƒ2885: 7. 8. seggen de appel„ lanten te sijn voor een minderheijd van 7581½ lb: soeraatse Cattoen; deese geappelleerdens objecteeren tot dit articul also deselve ge„ bruijkt sijn als bolwerken op de wallen en baterijen van voorm: guarnisoen te bmilip=n ten tijde van de blokkade dier fac„ 642 factorij en bij de speciaale ordre van 't opper„ hoofd en niet te twijffelen ter vermijding tot grooter schaade voorde appellanten het welk de geappelleerdens begrijpen het gedrag van den overleedenen regtveerdigt en sijne nalatenschap voor dezelve schadelooshoud van den Eijsch van de appellanten alsoo het geene den overl: gedaan heeft ten beste van de dienst en per ordre van het opper„ hoofd geschied is; de somma van ƒ27083. 19. voor Cattoen die de appellanten seggen bedorven te sijn door de negligentie van„ den overleedenen, deese geappelleerdens ont„ kennen, dat deese schade te attribueeren is, aan de agtteloosheijd van den overlee„ denen, Maar seggen het g'attribueerd moet worden aan 't manquement van geriefe„ lijkerplaatsen alf stroohuijsen, om daar sulke waardeerbaare goederen in te bergen dewelke aan 't bederff door 't minste vogt datse krijgt onderworpen is, daar en booven mag voorm: Cattoen in voorm: stroo huij„ sen menigte Jaaren gelegen hebben of bedurfen geweest sijn voor 't arrievement van den overleedenen te bimilip„m en 't waarschijnelijk dat ze geduurende de blok„ kade bedurven is men moet met onderda„ nigheijd sulx besluijten van de omstandig 4 heeden dat voorm: Cattoen bedurven ge„ raakt is het sij bij manquement van Behoor„ Behoorlijker bewaard plaatsen dan stroo huijsen, of in de blokkade, En welke verlies de „se geappelleerdens presumeeren dat de appel„ lanten dragen moeten also het nu blijkt dat voorm: Cattoen beschadigdt is, door geen fout of negligentie van den overleedenen De somma van ƒ20231:5:8: voor een derde part van der appellantens uijtstaande schulden te bimilip=mn, deese g'appelleer„ dens begrijpen met submissie dat sulx een Extraordinair belasting van Eijsch is, vande nalatenschap van den overlee„ denen schulden die hij nooijt gecontrac„ teerd heeft en die mogelijk eenige Jaa„ ren voordat den overleedenen te bimilp=m gekomen is in geboekt zijn, en 't welk op een klaarblijkelijke wijse de onwet„ tigheijd der appellantens Eijsch demon„ streerd, deese g'appelleerdens hebbende gedaan met de herhaaling van sodanige zaaken van haar andwoord, als sij met sub„ missie begrijpen gevoeglijk tot haar zaak te zijn en zo beknopt als mogelijk is, deese geappelleerdens admitteeren dat de ap„ pellanten een replicq op haar andwoord haar ingediend hebben Confirmeerende zaar klagt schrift en deese ge-appelleerdens at„ „mitteeren haar weeder andwoord op deselve en dat uijtspraak gedaan was en al 't ande„ re dat daarinne uijt 't proces voortspruij„ „Tende 21 647 Tende, nood sakelijk was, tot dat het pro„ ces tot verhooring gekomen is, en dat het voorm: honorable Hoff van Justitie be„ haagd hebben op de verhooring van de zaak, de appellantens Eijscht te ontseg„ gen, en welk billijk vonnis van 't hon„ norable Hoff van Justitie hoopen deese geappelleerdens dat bij dit honorable Hof geconfirmeerd zal worden, alsoo haar vonnis geformeerd was op een vleijtige at„ tentie van 't geheel proces, behalven dien den overleedenen ontslaagen geweest sijn„ de van den dienst der appellanten, moet zulx de appellantens eijsch kragteloos maaken endese geappelleerdens presu„ meeren dat de geproduceerde produc„ ten vande appellanten van geen kragt ter wereld sijn, alsoo de selven eenig„ lijk Extracten sijn van haar Eijge han„ delingen en daarom kunnen sij niet als een bewijs in haar Eijgen zaak dienen, nog kunnen de attestatien van haaren secretaris tot de Validiteijt der selve daar inniets toedoen, also deselve nooijt be Edigt is voor een onzijdig persoon zig daarenboven g'authoriseerd om den Eed afteneemen deese geappelleerdens kunnen niet admitteeren dat de appellan„ ten hebben doen blijken dat den voorm: overl: C: L: Hagemeester eener meerder belas„ ri Ting
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ting in the item of provisions for the garrison at bimilip=m had made, nor do they see any valid reason why they have made such an entry. These respondents hope that the resolution of the appellants and their president and council over the affairs on the Coast of Coromandel will not sway the honorable court in a matter that has entirely no appearance of truth and equity, and therefore it is to be presumed that it will not carry the approval of this honorable court. These respondents presume that the honor and credit of the appellants in this matter is not to be considered, as equity takes precedence over the same. These respondents cannot admit that the appellants had no aim nor prospects; if such were true, how could they have abandoned such a large portion of their claim at the hearing of the case? This question having been raised, the respondents have taken the liberty to answer: it was not out of consideration for the orphans that they were persuaded to make this waiver, but because the same is inequitable and far too conspicuous, and to give an appearance of equity to their other claims. These respondents cannot admit that the appellants say that the aforementioned higher charge is founded on motives of justice. Certainly, it cannot be deemed an act of justice and leniency to prosecute the estate of the deceased at law and to rob his children for a fictitious debit that is not supported by a single piece of evidence, and for which reasons the verdict of the aforementioned honorable Court of Justice, especially with respect to the false claim of the higher charge of the provisions, was given in thorough and natural consideration, and which verdict these respondents hope will be confirmed by this honorable council, as no error in law appears through any proof from the appellants. These respondents further perceive that the appellants' honor and credit were not to be judged by the honorable Court of Justice. These respondents cannot admit that the shortage and the loss on the cotton is in no way proven, since these respondents have never acknowledged this loss, that the same had to be attributed to the negligence of the deceased, and which matter is faithfully related as a fact: they were indeed used as breastworks for the ramparts and batteries of the garrison at bimilip=m and by the special order of the chief of that factory, as was said before. Moreover, the appellants had only thatched houses for the receipt of such valuable and perishable goods, and these respondents further perceive that since they have denied that the loss had to be attributed to the negligence of the deceased, it was an indispensable and necessary matter for the appellants to prove that the loss was to be attributed to the negligence of the deceased, and which, if that had been true, it is to be presumed they would have done. These respondents further say that the appellants are so arbitrary and despotic in their governance that it was, and is impossible, to obtain any evidence to be able to prove anything against them. These respondents further say that the use of the aforementioned cotton as breastworks for the ramparts and batteries of the aforementioned garrison at bimilip=m was highly necessary for the defense of that factory at the time of the encirclement, and for the prevention of greater losses for the appellants, and since it was done for the benefit of the service and by the special order of the chief of Bimilp=m, the appellants must bear such, and not the estate of the aforementioned deceased. These respondents further say that they are very sorry that they are so suspicious and have such low opinions of their own servants, alleging that they relied too much on the word of the deceased, that they did not know how large the quantity of the cotton was, or ought to be. It is contrary to reason to imagine that gentlemen who were sent to inspect and oversee the stock that the deceased was to deliver over to them would have signed an evident falsehood or cloaked the matter in a favorable presentation, when it was in their interest to discover the fault of the deceased to the appellants, and it is likely that one of the two was destined to succeed the deceased in his employment. These respondents are of the opinion that the declarations of the overseers are of sufficient validity and of such conciseness for the estate of the deceased to keep it free from the claims of the appellants in that regard. These respondents say that they cannot admit that the appellants' waiver of such a large
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Ting in't articul van provisien voor 't guar nisoen te bimilip=m gedaan hadden, nog„ simse geen regte reeden waarom se een so„ daninge lijfsh gedaan hebben dese geap„ pelleerdens hoopen dat de resolutie van de appellanten en haaren presidenten Raad over de affaires op de Cust van Cor mandel, het honorable hoff swaijen zal in een saak die in 't geheel de apperentie van waarheijd en billijkheijd niet heeft, en daar„ xomist te presumeeren dat het de appro„ batie niet wegdraagen zal van dit konno„ rable hoff, dese geappelleerdens presumee„ ren dat de eer en 't Crediet van de appellan„ ten in deese zaak niet te considereeren is alsoo de billijkleijd de voorvang vande„ selve heeft, deese geappelleerdens kunnen niet admitteeren dat de appellanten geen oogmerk nog uijtsigten hadden, indien sulks waar was, hoe hebben sij aan kun„ nen laaten vaaren so een groote portie van haaren Eijsch bij het verhooren van de zaak, deese vraag hebbende geappelleer„ dens de vrijheijd genoomen te beandwoor„ den, het was niet uijt Consideratie der wee„ sen die haar overgehaald hebben om dese afstand te doen, maar om dat deselve on„ billijk en alteveel in 't oogloopt, en om een Oog van billijkheijd aan haar andere Eijschen te geeven, deese geappelleerdens kunnen niet 664 niet admitteeren dat de appellanten seggen dat de voorm: meerder belasting gefondeerd is op motiven van regtvaardigheijd, see„ kerlijk kan dat niet ge-agt worden een raad van geregtigheijd en sagtheijd om de nalatenschap van den overleedenen in regten te vervolgen en sijne kinderen te„ berooven voor een verdigte debet is niet ondersteund met een simpel bewijs, en voorwelke reedenen het vonnis van voorm honnorable hoff van Justitie speciaal„ lijk ten opsigte van den valschen Eijsche vande meerder belasting der provisen, werd ingrondig en natuurlijke consideratie ge„ geeven, en welk vonnis dese geappelleerdens koopen bij deesen konnorablen raad g'Con„ firmeerd zal worden, als geen erveur in regten te voorschijn komt door eenig be„ wijs vande appellanten, deese geappelleer„ dens beseffen verders dat de sappellantens Eer en Credit door 't honnorable koff van Justitie niet g'oordeeld stond te worden, dese geappelleerdens kunnen niet ad„ mitteeren dat de minderheijd en 't ver„ lies op 't Cattoen in genendeelen gepro„ beerd is, dewijl dese geappelleerdens nooijt dit verlies erkent hebben dat dezelve aan„ de onagtsaamheijd van den overleedenen g'attribueerd moeste worden, en welke zaak trouwlijk gerelateerd is als een fijt r fijt deselve waaren in der daad gebruijkt als bol„ werken voor de wallen en batterijen van 't guarni„ soen te bimilip=m en door de speciaale ordre van 't opperhoofd dier factorij als bevoorens is gesegt, daar en booven hadden de appellanten een„ „lijk stroohuijsen voor den ontfangst van sul„ ke wardeerbaare en verderfelijke goederen, en deese geappelleerdens beseffen verders dat dewijl sij ontkend hebben dat het verlies aan„ de onagtsaamheijd van den overleedenen g'attri„ pen„ bueerd moeste werden, so was het een indiscen„ sabel en noodsakelijke zaak van de appellan„ ten te probeeren dat hiet verlies daarop aan de onagtsaamheijd van den overleedenen te attri„ bueeren was, En 't welke indien dat waar was geweest het te presumeeren is zij 't gedaan zoude hebben, deese geappelleerdens zeggen verders dat de appellanten soo willekeurlijk en dispoticq in haar gouvernement zijn dat het was, en onmogelijk is, eenige bewijsen te krijgen om iets teegens haar te kunnen probeeren, Deese geappelleerdens seggen nog dat het gebruijken van voorm: Cattoen als boe„ „wer „zrocken voorde wallen en batterijen van voorm guarnisoen te bimilip=mn hoog noodsakelijk was, tot de defentie dier factorije ten tijde van de omsingeling, en tot behoudenis van grooter verliesen voorde appellanten, en dewijl het gedaan is ten voordeele van den dienst en door 't speciaal bevel van 't opperhoofd van Bimilp=m 645 Bimilip=m moeten de appellanten zulks draa„ gen, en niet de nalatenschap van voorm: over„ leedenen, deese geappelleerdens seggen wijders dat het haar seer spijt dat se soo achter dochtig sijn en sulke geringe opinien van haaren Eijgene dienaaren hebben, met het alle geeren dat sij sig te veel op het woord vanden overleedenen verlaten hebben, dat sij niet wiste hoe groot de quantiteijt van het Cattoen was, of weesen moeste, dit is strij„ dig teegens de reeden sig te verbeelden dat heeren die gesonden waaren ter besigtiging en 't toesien van den voorraad die den over„ leedenen aan haar moeste over leeveren een kenbare vassiteijt geteekend zoude hebben of de saak bij eene favorable vertooning be„ manteld hebben, wanneer haar intrest was de fout van den overleedenen aande appel„ lanten te ontdekken, en 't is waarschijne„ lijk dat een van de twee bestend waaren om de overleedenen in sijnen emplooij te suc¬ cedeeren, deese geappelleerdens zijn van gevoelens dat de declaratien van de op„ sienders van een genoegsaame kraagt is en van sodanige bondigheijd voor dena„ latenschap van den overleedenen om die van de Eijschen der appellanten ten dien op sig„ te vrij te houden, deese geappelleerdens seggen dat sij niet kunnen admitteeren dat de appellanten afstand van soo een Groote